From nicosia.gaetano at moonsoft.it Thu Nov 11 13:54:02 2010 From: nicosia.gaetano at moonsoft.it (Nicosia Gaetano) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:54:02 +0100 Subject: Upgrade to 6.0 Message-ID: <4CDBF57A.6070305@moonsoft.it> Hi to All, On my server is installed RHEL 5.5. RedHat has released RHEL 6.0. How can upgrade from 5.5 to 6.0 ? Best Regards Gaetano From ricks at nerd.com Thu Nov 11 17:11:18 2010 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:11:18 -0800 Subject: Upgrade to 6.0 In-Reply-To: <4CDBF57A.6070305@moonsoft.it> References: <4CDBF57A.6070305@moonsoft.it> Message-ID: <4CDC23B6.40002@nerd.com> On 11/11/2010 05:54 AM, Nicosia Gaetano wrote: > Hi to All, > > On my server is installed RHEL 5.5. RedHat has released RHEL 6.0. > > How can upgrade from 5.5 to 6.0 ? I have never done an upgrade where the jump between versions is that big and I'm not sure it's a good idea. RHEL5 was based on Fedora 6, while RHEL6 is based on Fedora 12, and that's a HUGE difference. Ordinarily, one would boot the media and choose the "Upgrade" option from the first screen. Because this is a big technology jump, the option may not even be offered. Regardless of what you do, I HIGHLY suggest you back up your system fully (at least back up all the user's home directories and such). Once that's done, you can try an upgrade (if the boot disk offers it). I'd still suggest you do a full reinstall, complete with purging the hard drives, then restore the user directories and other things you need from the backup. If you don't have a backup mechanism, I can offer this shell script: ---------------------------- CUT HERE ---------------------------------- #!/bin/bash # Back up system to a specific directory given on the command line. # If no directory is given, it will back up to my 500GB USB drive's # "Backups" directory with a directory name based on my hostname and # today's date. # # Caveats: # 1. Make sure you unmount any NFS volumes you may have mounted. It's # also suggested that you unmount any non-OS related mounts. This # script backs up EVERYTHING, whether it's local on the machine or # remote mounts. # # 2. Make sure the target drive has enough space to hold EVERYTHING # that remains on your system after unmounting the NFS volumes and # other non-OS related mounts. It's a bitter thing when you run out # of space on the target and have to restart this script. # # 3. Things in the /etc/skipdirs.rsync file will NOT be backed up. # This typically excludes the _contents_ of the /proc, /sys, /dev and # /media directories, as the contents of those are transient and # created by the system at startup. The directories themselves will # be backed up, but not their _contents_. # And here we go! MYHOST=`hostname` TODAY=`date +%d-%b-%Y` if [ $# -lt 1 ]; then # Did we get a directory on the command line? TGT="/media/500GB-Drive/Backups/$MYHOST-BackUp-$TODAY" # Nope, create one and use it. else # Yes, we were given a directory, so... TGT=$1 # ...use that name fi rsync -avXA --exclude-from=/etc/skipdirs.rsync / $TGT # And back things up ---------------------------- CUT HERE ---------------------------------- I'd save the lines between the "CUT HERE" lines to a file, say /usr/local/bin/backupsys, and "chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/backupsys" to make it executable. The "/etc/skipdirs.rsync" file mentioned in the script contains entries, one per line, to skip while backing up. My version contains: /proc/* /sys/* /dev/* /media/* Note that this will backup the directories themselves but not their contents. A restore from this backup would recreate the directories but let the system recreate the contents as it normally would. To run the backup script, become the root user and: # /usr/local/bin/backupsys [/path/to/desired/backup/directory] Hope that helps. Again, I'd do a full reinstall. This is a significant technology jump. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ricks at nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - IGNORE that man behind the keyboard! - - - The Wizard of OS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From nicosia.gaetano at moonsoft.it Fri Nov 12 07:01:19 2010 From: nicosia.gaetano at moonsoft.it (Nicosia Gaetano) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 08:01:19 +0100 Subject: Upgrade to 6.0 In-Reply-To: <4CDC23B6.40002@nerd.com> References: <4CDBF57A.6070305@moonsoft.it> <4CDC23B6.40002@nerd.com> Message-ID: <4CDCE63F.4010809@moonsoft.it> Hi Rick, Thank You. Best Regards Gaetano Il 11/11/2010 18:11, Rick Stevens ha scritto: > On 11/11/2010 05:54 AM, Nicosia Gaetano wrote: >> Hi to All, >> >> On my server is installed RHEL 5.5. RedHat has released RHEL 6.0. >> >> How can upgrade from 5.5 to 6.0 ? > > I have never done an upgrade where the jump between versions is that > big and I'm not sure it's a good idea. RHEL5 was based on Fedora 6, > while RHEL6 is based on Fedora 12, and that's a HUGE difference. > > Ordinarily, one would boot the media and choose the "Upgrade" option > from the first screen. Because this is a big technology jump, the > option may not even be offered. > > Regardless of what you do, I HIGHLY suggest you back up your system > fully (at least back up all the user's home directories and such). > Once that's done, you can try an upgrade (if the boot disk offers it). > I'd still suggest you do a full reinstall, complete with purging the > hard drives, then restore the user directories and other things you > need from the backup. > > If you don't have a backup mechanism, I can offer this shell script: > ---------------------------- CUT HERE ---------------------------------- > #!/bin/bash > # Back up system to a specific directory given on the command line. > # If no directory is given, it will back up to my 500GB USB drive's > # "Backups" directory with a directory name based on my hostname and > # today's date. > # > # Caveats: > # 1. Make sure you unmount any NFS volumes you may have mounted. It's > # also suggested that you unmount any non-OS related mounts. This > # script backs up EVERYTHING, whether it's local on the machine or > # remote mounts. > # > # 2. Make sure the target drive has enough space to hold EVERYTHING > # that remains on your system after unmounting the NFS volumes and > # other non-OS related mounts. It's a bitter thing when you run out > # of space on the target and have to restart this script. > # > # 3. Things in the /etc/skipdirs.rsync file will NOT be backed up. > # This typically excludes the _contents_ of the /proc, /sys, /dev and > # /media directories, as the contents of those are transient and > # created by the system at startup. The directories themselves will > # be backed up, but not their _contents_. > > # And here we go! > MYHOST=`hostname` > TODAY=`date +%d-%b-%Y` > if [ $# -lt 1 ]; then # Did we get a directory on the command line? > TGT="/media/500GB-Drive/Backups/$MYHOST-BackUp-$TODAY" > # Nope, create one and use it. > else # Yes, we were given a directory, so... > TGT=$1 # ...use that name > fi > > rsync -avXA --exclude-from=/etc/skipdirs.rsync / $TGT > # And back things up > ---------------------------- CUT HERE ---------------------------------- > > I'd save the lines between the "CUT HERE" lines to a file, say > /usr/local/bin/backupsys, and "chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/backupsys" to > make it executable. > > The "/etc/skipdirs.rsync" file mentioned in the script contains > entries, one per line, to skip while backing up. My version contains: > > /proc/* > /sys/* > /dev/* > /media/* > > Note that this will backup the directories themselves but not their > contents. A restore from this backup would recreate the directories > but let the system recreate the contents as it normally would. > > To run the backup script, become the root user and: > > # /usr/local/bin/backupsys [/path/to/desired/backup/directory] > > Hope that helps. Again, I'd do a full reinstall. This is a significant > technology jump. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ricks at nerd.com - > - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - > - - > - IGNORE that man behind the keyboard! - > - - The Wizard of OS - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > From jimmypierre.rouen.france at gmail.com Sun Nov 14 11:14:25 2010 From: jimmypierre.rouen.france at gmail.com (Jimmy PIERRE) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:14:25 +0100 Subject: After RHEL 6 installation, no GUI Message-ID: Greetings, I am a bit lost. Never had this before with RHEL 5. Installed RHEL 6 normally, added gnome and KDE, RHEL starts in text mode only. Reintstalled, same problem. I need to point out that this is a vmware installtion, *but* as I said never happenned with RHEL 5. Tried grub-install etc. No luck. startx or startX neither. Glad if someone knows how to solve this. Best wishes, Jimmy From ricks at nerd.com Mon Nov 15 17:30:18 2010 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 09:30:18 -0800 Subject: After RHEL 6 installation, no GUI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4CE16E2A.2090001@nerd.com> On 11/14/2010 03:14 AM, Jimmy PIERRE wrote: > Greetings, > > I am a bit lost. Never had this before with RHEL 5. Installed RHEL 6 > normally, added gnome and KDE, RHEL starts in text mode only. > > Reintstalled, same problem. > > I need to point out that this is a vmware installtion, *but* as I said > never happenned with RHEL 5. > > Tried grub-install etc. No luck. startx or startX neither. > > Glad if someone knows how to solve this. The first thing to do is to try the startx, then have a look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and see what it has to say. If this is an upgrade, keep in mind there was a big change in X between RHEL5 and RHEL6. You might even try renaming your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and trying the startx again. The new X often doesn't need an xorg.conf and will actually have issues if it tries to obey what's in an older xorg.conf. Give it a try and let us know. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ricks at nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - To err is human. To forgive, a large sum of money is needed. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From johansche at telkomsa.net Tue Nov 16 18:28:37 2010 From: johansche at telkomsa.net (Johan Scheepers) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:28:37 +0200 Subject: new to redhat Message-ID: <4CE2CD55.1070700@telkomsa.net> Good day, I have ordered some RH 9 cd's. Done some home work on google. Some knowledge of debian squeeze and opensuse 11.3. Being a pensionar I do have the time to fiddle around with different distros. May need some assistance along the redhat way. Regards Johan From bob at bobcatos.com Tue Nov 16 19:01:03 2010 From: bob at bobcatos.com (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:01:03 -0600 Subject: new to redhat In-Reply-To: <4CE2CD55.1070700@telkomsa.net> References: <4CE2CD55.1070700@telkomsa.net> Message-ID: <20101116190103.GC31363@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Hi Johan, On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 08:28:37PM +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: > Good day, > > I have ordered some RH 9 cd's. Umm, why? RH 9 is extremely antique and no longer supported. That means you can't get any security (or any other) updates for it and will be vulnerable to crackers. Furthermore, if you machine is very recent, it may not support the hardware very well. > Done some home work on google. > Some knowledge of debian squeeze and opensuse 11.3. I've no experience with either of those. > Being a pensionar I do have the time to fiddle around with different > distros. > May need some assistance along the redhat way. If you want to mess around with Red-Hat-ish distros, you want either Fedora (version 14 is just out) or CentOS (v5.5 is current, and v6 will be out soon) . Fedora is the cutting edge trial area for what will become a real Red Hat release. CentOS is the free variant of the current Red Hat, and is nearly exactly like RH except for the branding and (of course) support. If you are new to Linux, especially if coming from Windoze, you might want to consider Ubuntu which is a derivative of Debian, but is geared more for the Windoze escapee. It has more recent stuff than CentOS, but more stable, and for the most part, Just Works. All three distros mentioned can be set up to auto-update, so that you always have the latest and most secure stuff. > Regards > Johan Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come! 2 Corinthians 5:17 (NIV) From jayeola at gmail.com Tue Nov 16 19:12:44 2010 From: jayeola at gmail.com (jayeola at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:12:44 +0000 Subject: new to redhat Message-ID: <323398777-1289934764-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2018743893-@b11.c4.bise7.blackberry> Why those particular versions? RH is old and no longer supported. If you want a "free" community-based distro, Fedora. CentOS for "RH clonne". 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Visit http://www.boxbe.com/how-it-works?tc=5922469783_2135277509 End Email Overload -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Bob McClure Jr Subject: Re: new to redhat Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:01:03 -0600 Size: 5318 URL: From ricks at nerd.com Tue Nov 16 19:21:48 2010 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:21:48 -0800 Subject: new to redhat In-Reply-To: <4CE2CD55.1070700@telkomsa.net> References: <4CE2CD55.1070700@telkomsa.net> Message-ID: <4CE2D9CC.8020005@nerd.com> On 11/16/2010 10:28 AM, Johan Scheepers wrote: > Good day, > > I have ordered some RH 9 cd's. Red Hat 9 went end-of-life about four years ago, Johan. You really need to go with Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) 5.5 or 6.0. CentOS is also a good bet, as it's built from Red Hat's source RPMs and is, essentially, identical (except for some branding, logos, etc.). The kicker is...it's free! The only caveat is that there's a bit of a lag between any updates from Red Hat and having them appear on CentOS (as the CentOS gang has to grab the source code, change the branding and stuff and rebuild them). > Done some home work on google. > Some knowledge of debian squeeze and opensuse 11.3. > > Being a pensionar I do have the time to fiddle around with different > distros. The "experimental hamster" for Red Hat is called "Fedora". That's where all the heavy development is done. The latest RHEL 6 is based on Fedora 12. The previous RHEL 5 was based on Fedora 6. The current Fedora release is Fedora 14 (just came out a few weeks ago) and there are still some teething pains with it. If you want the latest, get Fedora 14. Depending on your level of pain tolerance, you may want to go with the more stable Fedora 13. If you want TRUE stability, stick with RHEL or CentOS. > May need some assistance along the redhat way. I've been using all of them for about 15 years and I can help if needed. I'm also an assistant sysop for this forum, but you'll find me on the Fedora user's list (users at lists.fedora.org) or the Fedora test list (test at lists.fedora.org). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ricks at nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - If this is the first day of the rest of my life... - - I'm in BIG trouble! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From johansche at telkomsa.net Tue Nov 16 19:48:55 2010 From: johansche at telkomsa.net (Johan Scheepers) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:48:55 +0200 Subject: new to redhat In-Reply-To: <20101116190103.GC31363@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <4CE2CD55.1070700@telkomsa.net> <20101116190103.GC31363@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <4CE2E027.3050604@telkomsa.net> On 16/11/2010 21:01, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > Hi Johan, > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 08:28:37PM +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: > >> Good day, >> >> I have ordered some RH 9 cd's. >> > Umm, why? RH 9 is extremely antique and no longer supported. That > means you can't get any security (or any other) updates for it and > will be vulnerable to crackers. Furthermore, if you machine is very > recent, it may not support the hardware very well. > > >> Done some home work on google. >> Some knowledge of debian squeeze and opensuse 11.3. >> > I've no experience with either of those. > > >> Being a pensionar I do have the time to fiddle around with different >> distros. >> May need some assistance along the redhat way. >> > If you want to mess around with Red-Hat-ish distros, you want either > Fedora (version 14 is just out) or CentOS > (v5.5 is current, and v6 will be out soon). > Fedora is the cutting edge trial area for what will become a real Red > Hat release. CentOS is the free variant of the current Red Hat, and > is nearly exactly like RH except for the branding and (of course) > support. > > If you are new to Linux, especially if coming from Windoze, you might > want to consider Ubuntu which is a derivative > of Debian, but is geared more for the Windoze escapee. It has more > recent stuff than CentOS, but more stable, and for the most part, Just > Works. > > All three distros mentioned can be set up to auto-update, so that you > always have the latest and most secure stuff. > > >> Regards >> Johan >> > > Cheers, > Good day, What can I say. Due to ignorance. Starting to download Fedora 14 iso for cd. Should I join a Fedora list or is this correct? Thanks to all that responded. Regards Johan From johansche at telkomsa.net Tue Nov 16 20:10:37 2010 From: johansche at telkomsa.net (Johan Scheepers) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:10:37 +0200 Subject: new to redhat In-Reply-To: <4CE2D9CC.8020005@nerd.com> References: <4CE2CD55.1070700@telkomsa.net> <4CE2D9CC.8020005@nerd.com> Message-ID: <4CE2E53D.9060209@telkomsa.net> On 16/11/2010 21:21, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 11/16/2010 10:28 AM, Johan Scheepers wrote: >> Good day, >> >> I have ordered some RH 9 cd's. > > Red Hat 9 went end-of-life about four years ago, Johan. You really > need to go with Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) 5.5 or 6.0. > > CentOS is also a good bet, as it's built from Red Hat's source RPMs and > is, essentially, identical (except for some branding, logos, etc.). > The kicker is...it's free! The only caveat is that there's a bit of a > lag between any updates from Red Hat and having them appear on CentOS > (as the CentOS gang has to grab the source code, change the branding > and stuff and rebuild them). > >> Done some home work on google. >> Some knowledge of debian squeeze and opensuse 11.3. >> >> Being a pensionar I do have the time to fiddle around with different >> distros. > > The "experimental hamster" for Red Hat is called "Fedora". That's > where all the heavy development is done. The latest RHEL 6 is based on > Fedora 12. The previous RHEL 5 was based on Fedora 6. The current > Fedora release is Fedora 14 (just came out a few weeks ago) and there > are still some teething pains with it. > > If you want the latest, get Fedora 14. Depending on your level of pain > tolerance, you may want to go with the more stable Fedora 13. If you > want TRUE stability, stick with RHEL or CentOS. > >> May need some assistance along the redhat way. > > I've been using all of them for about 15 years and I can help if needed. > I'm also an assistant sysop for this forum, but you'll find me on the > Fedora user's list (users at lists.fedora.org) or the Fedora test list > (test at lists.fedora.org). > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ricks at nerd.com - > - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - > - - > - If this is the first day of the rest of my life... - > - I'm in BIG trouble! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > Thanks. Busy downloading fedora 14 iso for cd. subscribed to users and laptop. Regards Johan From jayeola at gmail.com Tue Nov 16 20:18:26 2010 From: jayeola at gmail.com (jayeola at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:18:26 +0000 Subject: new to redhat Message-ID: <2109861593-1289938706-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1533837551-@b11.c4.bise7.blackberry> Tip:- Run fedora from a live CD so that you can try it out on the fly without installing it. Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device From jimmypierre.rouen.france at gmail.com Tue Nov 16 20:30:30 2010 From: jimmypierre.rouen.france at gmail.com (Jimmy Pierre) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:30:30 +0100 Subject: After RHEL 6 installation, no GUI In-Reply-To: <4CE16E2A.2090001@nerd.com> References: <4CE16E2A.2090001@nerd.com> Message-ID: <005601cb85cd$1d57bbf0$580733d0$@gmail.com> -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: lundi 15 novembre 2010 18:30 To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: After RHEL 6 installation, no GUI On 11/14/2010 03:14 AM, Jimmy PIERRE wrote: > Greetings, > > I am a bit lost. Never had this before with RHEL 5. Installed RHEL 6 > normally, added gnome and KDE, RHEL starts in text mode only. > > Reintstalled, same problem. > > I need to point out that this is a vmware installtion, *but* as I said > never happenned with RHEL 5. > > Tried grub-install etc. No luck. startx or startX neither. > > Glad if someone knows how to solve this. >>>>The first thing to do is to try the startx, then have a look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and see what it has to say. I tried all this of course. No, it was not an upgrade from RHEL 5. I will tell you what, I reinstalled RHEL 6 again. This time I perused the navigation bars and found well hidden in the X options the window X. I ticked it et voil?. Great that you took the trouble to write back to me Rick. Cheers, J From bob at bobcatos.com Tue Nov 16 20:41:52 2010 From: bob at bobcatos.com (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:41:52 -0600 Subject: new to redhat In-Reply-To: <4CE2E027.3050604@telkomsa.net> References: <4CE2CD55.1070700@telkomsa.net> <20101116190103.GC31363@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <4CE2E027.3050604@telkomsa.net> Message-ID: <20101116204152.GB1540@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Hi Johan, On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 09:48:55PM +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: > On 16/11/2010 21:01, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > >Hi Johan, > > > >On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 08:28:37PM +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: > >>Good day, > >> > >>I have ordered some RH 9 cd's. > >Umm, why? RH 9 is extremely antique and no longer supported. That > >means you can't get any security (or any other) updates for it and > >will be vulnerable to crackers. Furthermore, if you machine is very > >recent, it may not support the hardware very well. > > > >>Done some home work on google. > >>Some knowledge of debian squeeze and opensuse 11.3. > >I've no experience with either of those. > > > >>Being a pensionar I do have the time to fiddle around with different > >>distros. > >>May need some assistance along the redhat way. > >If you want to mess around with Red-Hat-ish distros, you want either > >Fedora (version 14 is just out) or CentOS > >(v5.5 is current, and v6 will be out soon). > >Fedora is the cutting edge trial area for what will become a real Red > >Hat release. CentOS is the free variant of the current Red Hat, and > >is nearly exactly like RH except for the branding and (of course) > >support. > > > >If you are new to Linux, especially if coming from Windoze, you might > >want to consider Ubuntu which is a derivative > >of Debian, but is geared more for the Windoze escapee. It has more > >recent stuff than CentOS, but more stable, and for the most part, Just > >Works. > > > >All three distros mentioned can be set up to auto-update, so that you > >always have the latest and most secure stuff. > > > >>Regards > >>Johan > > > >Cheers, > Good day, > > What can I say. Due to ignorance. We all get time for learning. > Starting to download Fedora 14 iso for cd. > > Should I join a Fedora list or is this correct? The Fedora list would be better. > Thanks to all that responded. > Regards > Johan Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come! 2 Corinthians 5:17 (NIV) From johansche at telkomsa.net Tue Nov 16 21:23:04 2010 From: johansche at telkomsa.net (Johan Scheepers) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:23:04 +0200 Subject: new to redhat In-Reply-To: <2109861593-1289938706-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1533837551-@b11.c4.bise7.blackberry> References: <2109861593-1289938706-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1533837551-@b11.c4.bise7.blackberry> Message-ID: <4CE2F638.4050106@telkomsa.net> On 16/11/2010 22:18, jayeola at gmail.com wrote: > Tip:- Run fedora from a live CD so that you can try it out on the fly without installing it. > > > Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > That is what I am downloading. Thanks Johan From abhilashck72 at gmail.com Wed Nov 17 02:21:35 2010 From: abhilashck72 at gmail.com (Abhilash abhi) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 07:51:35 +0530 Subject: new to redhat In-Reply-To: <4CE2F638.4050106@telkomsa.net> References: <2109861593-1289938706-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1533837551-@b11.c4.bise7.blackberry> <4CE2F638.4050106@telkomsa.net> Message-ID: Hi, I also suggest Fedora 14. You can download the latest iso and install.. http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ ---- On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:53 AM, Johan Scheepers wrote: > On 16/11/2010 22:18, jayeola at gmail.com wrote: > >> Tip:- Run fedora from a live CD so that you can try it out on the fly >> without installing it. >> >> >> Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Redhat-install-list mailing list >> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >> Subject: unsubscribe >> >> >> > That is what I am downloading. > Thanks > Johan > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- Regards, Abhilash -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The redhat setup has installed the software on sda. 1) How can use sdb ? 2) In disk management I found these options for Unit format: - Master Boot Record - GUID partition table - No partition Wich option I must to use in order to format the disk ? Thank You and Best Regards Gaetano From ricks at nerd.com Wed Nov 17 17:38:03 2010 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:38:03 -0800 Subject: new to redhat In-Reply-To: <4CE2E53D.9060209@telkomsa.net> References: <4CE2CD55.1070700@telkomsa.net> <4CE2D9CC.8020005@nerd.com> <4CE2E53D.9060209@telkomsa.net> Message-ID: <4CE412FB.8010604@nerd.com> On 11/16/2010 12:10 PM, Johan Scheepers wrote: > On 16/11/2010 21:21, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 11/16/2010 10:28 AM, Johan Scheepers wrote: >>> Good day, >>> >>> I have ordered some RH 9 cd's. >> >> Red Hat 9 went end-of-life about four years ago, Johan. You really >> need to go with Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) 5.5 or 6.0. >> >> CentOS is also a good bet, as it's built from Red Hat's source RPMs and >> is, essentially, identical (except for some branding, logos, etc.). >> The kicker is...it's free! The only caveat is that there's a bit of a >> lag between any updates from Red Hat and having them appear on CentOS >> (as the CentOS gang has to grab the source code, change the branding >> and stuff and rebuild them). >> >>> Done some home work on google. >>> Some knowledge of debian squeeze and opensuse 11.3. >>> >>> Being a pensionar I do have the time to fiddle around with different >>> distros. >> >> The "experimental hamster" for Red Hat is called "Fedora". That's >> where all the heavy development is done. The latest RHEL 6 is based on >> Fedora 12. The previous RHEL 5 was based on Fedora 6. The current >> Fedora release is Fedora 14 (just came out a few weeks ago) and there >> are still some teething pains with it. >> >> If you want the latest, get Fedora 14. Depending on your level of pain >> tolerance, you may want to go with the more stable Fedora 13. If you >> want TRUE stability, stick with RHEL or CentOS. >> >>> May need some assistance along the redhat way. >> >> I've been using all of them for about 15 years and I can help if needed. >> I'm also an assistant sysop for this forum, but you'll find me on the >> Fedora user's list (users at lists.fedora.org) or the Fedora test list >> (test at lists.fedora.org). > Thanks. > Busy downloading fedora 14 iso for cd. > subscribed to users and laptop. Great! Now remember, Fedora 14 is absolute bleeding edge stuff. You may have some stability issues, bugs and other things going on with it as it is actively being developed. For that reason, you should grab the LiveCD version first, burn it to a CD and boot it. When running from that CD you can play with Fedora, test it out and see if it's what you're looking for and are comfortable with. If it is, you CAN install a full-up F14 (Fedora 14) using the Web and that CD. If you stick with Fedora, then yes, I'd join the Fedora list. Lots of Fedora people over there and absolutely gobs of help available from them. If you need stability and reliability, then go for either RHEL5 or 6 or the free CentOS versions. CentOS 5 is out, CentOS 6 soon will be (once the CentOS boffins get a chance to change the branding on the Red Hat source code). Welcome to the fold! As someone once said, "It's a great life once you've weakened." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ricks at nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From ricks at nerd.com Wed Nov 17 17:46:36 2010 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:46:36 -0800 Subject: yum "noplugin match" messages (Was: blank subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4CE414FC.8040100@nerd.com> On 11/16/2010 08:38 PM, landon kelsey wrote: > > Have great F13 > > > > step 1 in upgrade:to F14 > > > > [root at localhost ~]# preupgrade > > Loaded plugins: blacklist, whiteout > > No plugin match for: rpm-warm-cache > > No plugin match for: remove-with-leaves > > No plugin match for: auto-update-debuginfo > > [root at localhost ~]# > > > > what do I do about the noplugin matches??? They're simply additions to the basic yum functionality. They're not critical to your upgrade process, although they are useful additions to yum and I'd consider installing them. For a full list of yum's plugins, try "yum list yum-plugin*". You can get information on what they do by using "yum info name-of-plugin", e.g. [root at bigdog ~]# yum info yum-plugin-rpm-warm-cache.noarch Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Available Packages Name : yum-plugin-rpm-warm-cache Arch : noarch Version : 1.1.28 Release : 1.fc13 Size : 9.2 k Repo : updates Summary : Yum plugin to access the rpmdb files early to warm up : access to the db URL : http://yum.baseurl.org/download/yum-utils/ License : GPLv2+ Description : This plugin reads the rpmdb files into the system cache : before accessing the rpmdb directly. In some cases this : should speed up access to rpmdb information Oh, and in the future, this list (and most others I've seen) would prefer if you'd include a subject line when you post a new message. You didn't on your message, so I'm adding one. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ricks at nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - "I'd explain it to you, but your brain might explode." - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From ricks at nerd.com Wed Nov 17 18:29:32 2010 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 10:29:32 -0800 Subject: Second HD on RHEL 6 In-Reply-To: <4CE3F23E.806@moonsoft.it> References: <4CE3F23E.806@moonsoft.it> Message-ID: <4CE41F0C.7010707@nerd.com> On 11/17/2010 07:18 AM, Nicosia Gaetano wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed RHEL 6 on a server that has 2 Hard-Disk. The redhat > setup has installed the software on sda. > 1) How can use sdb ? > 2) In disk management I found these options for Unit format: > - Master Boot Record > - GUID partition table > - No partition > Wich option I must to use in order to format the disk ? Before you do anything, I suggest you read the System Administrator's Guide section about disk management, or nothing I say will make sense to you. :-) I'd use the GUID (I think you mean GParted) thing and put a single partition on the drive that uses all of its space. I'd make that an LVM PV (physical volume) and either add that to an existing VG (volume group) or create a new VG and place it in there. From there, you can carve out LV (logical volumes) of any size you need. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ricks at nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - The Theory of Rapitivity: E=MC Hammer - - -- Glenn Marcus (via TopFive.com) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From johansche at telkomsa.net Wed Nov 17 20:03:46 2010 From: johansche at telkomsa.net (Johan Scheepers) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 22:03:46 +0200 Subject: new to redhat In-Reply-To: <4CE412FB.8010604@nerd.com> References: <4CE2CD55.1070700@telkomsa.net> <4CE2D9CC.8020005@nerd.com> <4CE2E53D.9060209@telkomsa.net> <4CE412FB.8010604@nerd.com> Message-ID: <4CE43522.3000800@telkomsa.net> On 11/17/2010 07:38 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 11/16/2010 12:10 PM, Johan Scheepers wrote: >> On 16/11/2010 21:21, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> On 11/16/2010 10:28 AM, Johan Scheepers wrote: >>>> Good day, >>>> >>>> I have ordered some RH 9 cd's. >>> >>> Red Hat 9 went end-of-life about four years ago, Johan. You really >>> need to go with Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) 5.5 or 6.0. >>> >>> CentOS is also a good bet, as it's built from Red Hat's source RPMs and >>> is, essentially, identical (except for some branding, logos, etc.). >>> The kicker is...it's free! The only caveat is that there's a bit of a >>> lag between any updates from Red Hat and having them appear on CentOS >>> (as the CentOS gang has to grab the source code, change the branding >>> and stuff and rebuild them). >>> >>>> Done some home work on google. >>>> Some knowledge of debian squeeze and opensuse 11.3. >>>> >>>> Being a pensionar I do have the time to fiddle around with different >>>> distros. >>> >>> The "experimental hamster" for Red Hat is called "Fedora". That's >>> where all the heavy development is done. The latest RHEL 6 is based on >>> Fedora 12. The previous RHEL 5 was based on Fedora 6. The current >>> Fedora release is Fedora 14 (just came out a few weeks ago) and there >>> are still some teething pains with it. >>> >>> If you want the latest, get Fedora 14. Depending on your level of pain >>> tolerance, you may want to go with the more stable Fedora 13. If you >>> want TRUE stability, stick with RHEL or CentOS. >>> >>>> May need some assistance along the redhat way. >>> >>> I've been using all of them for about 15 years and I can help if >>> needed. >>> I'm also an assistant sysop for this forum, but you'll find me on the >>> Fedora user's list (users at lists.fedora.org) or the Fedora test list >>> (test at lists.fedora.org). >> Thanks. >> Busy downloading fedora 14 iso for cd. >> subscribed to users and laptop. > > Great! Now remember, Fedora 14 is absolute bleeding edge stuff. You > may have some stability issues, bugs and other things going on with > it as it is actively being developed. For that reason, you should grab > the LiveCD version first, burn it to a CD and boot it. > > When running from that CD you can play with Fedora, test it out and see > if it's what you're looking for and are comfortable with. If it is, > you CAN install a full-up F14 (Fedora 14) using the Web and that CD. > If you stick with Fedora, then yes, I'd join the Fedora list. Lots of > Fedora people over there and absolutely gobs of help available from > them. > > If you need stability and reliability, then go for either RHEL5 or 6 > or the free CentOS versions. CentOS 5 is out, CentOS 6 soon will be > (once the CentOS boffins get a chance to change the branding on the > Red Hat source code). > > Welcome to the fold! As someone once said, "It's a great life once > you've weakened." > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ricks at nerd.com - > - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - > - - > - To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > Downloaded fedora 14 live. Installed with one problem, samsung printer not installed. After updating, tried the printer again and it installed. mp3 playing not possible. Maybe there is a work around? I love the graphics. Regards Johan From jayeola at gmail.com Wed Nov 17 20:12:40 2010 From: jayeola at gmail.com (jayeola at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:12:40 +0000 Subject: new to redhat Message-ID: <667954395-1290024756-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1906510523-@b11.c4.bise7.blackberry> Mp3 support not included due to liscencing issues. You can add an additional repositary, like livna to get that. Cannot provide a URL from this sucky phone but the "docs on how to do this are out there". /sys/john == /dev/blackberry From ricks at nerd.com Wed Nov 17 20:58:26 2010 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 12:58:26 -0800 Subject: new to redhat In-Reply-To: <4CE43522.3000800@telkomsa.net> References: <4CE2CD55.1070700@telkomsa.net> <4CE2D9CC.8020005@nerd.com> <4CE2E53D.9060209@telkomsa.net> <4CE412FB.8010604@nerd.com> <4CE43522.3000800@telkomsa.net> Message-ID: <4CE441F2.90108@nerd.com> On 11/17/2010 12:03 PM, Johan Scheepers wrote: > On 11/17/2010 07:38 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 11/16/2010 12:10 PM, Johan Scheepers wrote: >>> On 16/11/2010 21:21, Rick Stevens wrote: >>>> On 11/16/2010 10:28 AM, Johan Scheepers wrote: >>>>> Good day, >>>>> >>>>> I have ordered some RH 9 cd's. >>>> >>>> Red Hat 9 went end-of-life about four years ago, Johan. You really >>>> need to go with Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) 5.5 or 6.0. >>>> >>>> CentOS is also a good bet, as it's built from Red Hat's source RPMs and >>>> is, essentially, identical (except for some branding, logos, etc.). >>>> The kicker is...it's free! The only caveat is that there's a bit of a >>>> lag between any updates from Red Hat and having them appear on CentOS >>>> (as the CentOS gang has to grab the source code, change the branding >>>> and stuff and rebuild them). >>>> >>>>> Done some home work on google. >>>>> Some knowledge of debian squeeze and opensuse 11.3. >>>>> >>>>> Being a pensionar I do have the time to fiddle around with different >>>>> distros. >>>> >>>> The "experimental hamster" for Red Hat is called "Fedora". That's >>>> where all the heavy development is done. The latest RHEL 6 is based on >>>> Fedora 12. The previous RHEL 5 was based on Fedora 6. The current >>>> Fedora release is Fedora 14 (just came out a few weeks ago) and there >>>> are still some teething pains with it. >>>> >>>> If you want the latest, get Fedora 14. Depending on your level of pain >>>> tolerance, you may want to go with the more stable Fedora 13. If you >>>> want TRUE stability, stick with RHEL or CentOS. >>>> >>>>> May need some assistance along the redhat way. >>>> >>>> I've been using all of them for about 15 years and I can help if >>>> needed. >>>> I'm also an assistant sysop for this forum, but you'll find me on the >>>> Fedora user's list (users at lists.fedora.org) or the Fedora test list >>>> (test at lists.fedora.org). >>> Thanks. >>> Busy downloading fedora 14 iso for cd. >>> subscribed to users and laptop. >> >> Great! Now remember, Fedora 14 is absolute bleeding edge stuff. You >> may have some stability issues, bugs and other things going on with >> it as it is actively being developed. For that reason, you should grab >> the LiveCD version first, burn it to a CD and boot it. >> >> When running from that CD you can play with Fedora, test it out and see >> if it's what you're looking for and are comfortable with. If it is, >> you CAN install a full-up F14 (Fedora 14) using the Web and that CD. >> If you stick with Fedora, then yes, I'd join the Fedora list. Lots of >> Fedora people over there and absolutely gobs of help available from >> them. >> >> If you need stability and reliability, then go for either RHEL5 or 6 >> or the free CentOS versions. CentOS 5 is out, CentOS 6 soon will be >> (once the CentOS boffins get a chance to change the branding on the >> Red Hat source code). >> >> Welcome to the fold! As someone once said, "It's a great life once >> you've weakened." >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ricks at nerd.com - >> - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - >> - - >> - To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion. - >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Redhat-install-list mailing list >> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >> Subject: unsubscribe >> > Downloaded fedora 14 live. > Installed with one problem, samsung printer not installed. > After updating, tried the printer again and it installed. > mp3 playing not possible. Maybe there is a work around? MP3 support isn't inherent in Fedora or Red Hat due to patent licensing issues. You have to install some plugins. As the root user: # yum install gstreamer-plugins-ugly # yum install audacious-plugins-freeworld-mp3 The first is for Rhythmbox or Totem (gstreamer) players (which is what installs by default). The second is if you use the Audacious player. > I love the graphics. Good! And welcome to Fedora! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ricks at nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Admitting you have a problem is the first step toward getting - - medicated for it. -- Jim Evarts (http://www.TopFive.com) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From johansche at telkomsa.net Thu Nov 18 03:51:01 2010 From: johansche at telkomsa.net (Johan Scheepers) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:51:01 +0200 Subject: new to redhat In-Reply-To: <4CE441F2.90108@nerd.com> References: <4CE2CD55.1070700@telkomsa.net> <4CE2D9CC.8020005@nerd.com> <4CE2E53D.9060209@telkomsa.net> <4CE412FB.8010604@nerd.com> <4CE43522.3000800@telkomsa.net> <4CE441F2.90108@nerd.com> Message-ID: <4CE4A2A5.1060608@telkomsa.net> On 11/17/2010 10:58 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > MP3 support isn't inherent in Fedora or Red Hat due to patent licensing > issues. You have to install some plugins. As the root user: > > # yum install gstreamer-plugins-ugly > # yum install audacious-plugins-freeworld-mp3 > > The first is for Rhythmbox or Totem (gstreamer) players (which is what > installs by default). The second is if you use the Audacious player. Good day, According to yum above packages does not excist. Say "nothing do do" johan]# yum install gstreamer-plugins-ugly Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit Adding en_US to language list Setting up Install Process No package gstreamer-plugins-ugly available. Error: Nothing to do johan]# yum install audacious-plugins-freeworld-mp3 Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit Adding en_US to language list Setting up Install Process No package audacious-plugins-freeworld-mp3 available. Error: Nothing to do Maybe it needs more info? Regards Johan From bob at bobcatos.com Thu Nov 18 05:29:43 2010 From: bob at bobcatos.com (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:29:43 -0600 Subject: new to redhat In-Reply-To: <4CE4A2A5.1060608@telkomsa.net> References: <4CE2CD55.1070700@telkomsa.net> <4CE2D9CC.8020005@nerd.com> <4CE2E53D.9060209@telkomsa.net> <4CE412FB.8010604@nerd.com> <4CE43522.3000800@telkomsa.net> <4CE441F2.90108@nerd.com> <4CE4A2A5.1060608@telkomsa.net> Message-ID: <20101118052943.GE24629@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Hi Johan, On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 05:51:01AM +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: > On 11/17/2010 10:58 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > >MP3 support isn't inherent in Fedora or Red Hat due to patent licensing > >issues. You have to install some plugins. As the root user: > > > > # yum install gstreamer-plugins-ugly > > # yum install audacious-plugins-freeworld-mp3 > > > >The first is for Rhythmbox or Totem (gstreamer) players (which is > >what installs by default). The second is if you use the Audacious > >player. > Good day, > > According to yum above packages does not excist. > > Say "nothing do do" > > johan]# yum install gstreamer-plugins-ugly > Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit > Adding en_US to language list > Setting up Install Process > No package gstreamer-plugins-ugly available. > Error: Nothing to do > > johan]# yum install audacious-plugins-freeworld-mp3 > Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit > Adding en_US to language list > Setting up Install Process > No package audacious-plugins-freeworld-mp3 available. > Error: Nothing to do > > Maybe it needs more info? Needs another repo. Sorry, it's not set up out of the box. Go here and click on the link "For users: Enable RPM Fusion on your system." You will be given directions that will add the RPMFusion repos to your system. Then the above yum commands will work. > Regards > Johan Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com "Comfort, comfort my people," says your God. Isaiah 40:1 (NIV) From ricks at nerd.com Thu Nov 18 17:11:14 2010 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 09:11:14 -0800 Subject: new to redhat In-Reply-To: <20101118052943.GE24629@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <4CE2CD55.1070700@telkomsa.net> <4CE2D9CC.8020005@nerd.com> <4CE2E53D.9060209@telkomsa.net> <4CE412FB.8010604@nerd.com> <4CE43522.3000800@telkomsa.net> <4CE441F2.90108@nerd.com> <4CE4A2A5.1060608@telkomsa.net> <20101118052943.GE24629@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <4CE55E32.20105@nerd.com> On 11/17/2010 09:29 PM, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > Hi Johan, > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 05:51:01AM +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: >> On 11/17/2010 10:58 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> MP3 support isn't inherent in Fedora or Red Hat due to patent licensing >>> issues. You have to install some plugins. As the root user: >>> >>> # yum install gstreamer-plugins-ugly >>> # yum install audacious-plugins-freeworld-mp3 >>> >>> The first is for Rhythmbox or Totem (gstreamer) players (which is >>> what installs by default). The second is if you use the Audacious >>> player. >> Good day, >> >> According to yum above packages does not excist. >> >> Say "nothing do do" >> >> johan]# yum install gstreamer-plugins-ugly >> Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit >> Adding en_US to language list >> Setting up Install Process >> No package gstreamer-plugins-ugly available. >> Error: Nothing to do >> >> johan]# yum install audacious-plugins-freeworld-mp3 >> Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit >> Adding en_US to language list >> Setting up Install Process >> No package audacious-plugins-freeworld-mp3 available. >> Error: Nothing to do >> >> Maybe it needs more info? > > Needs another repo. Sorry, it's not set up out of the box. Go here > and click on the link "For users: Enable RPM > Fusion on your system." You will be given directions that will add > the RPMFusion repos to your system. Then the above yum commands will > work. Nice catch, Bob. Yeah, I forgot about enabling rpmfusion. I do it so often I forget that others don't necessarily know about it. See, Johan? We Fedora Folk are friendly sods. And we make mistakes, too. Some more than others (jabbing a thumb at myself). :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ricks at nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - "Doctor! My brain hurts!" "It will have to come out!" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Fri Nov 19 01:37:51 2010 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (Karl Pearson) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:37:51 -0700 Subject: new to redhat In-Reply-To: <20101116190103.GC31363@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <4CE2CD55.1070700@telkomsa.net> <20101116190103.GC31363@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: On Tue, November 16, 2010 12:01 pm, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > Hi Johan, > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 08:28:37PM +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: >> Good day, >> >> I have ordered some RH 9 cd's. > > Umm, why? RH 9 is extremely antique and no longer supported. That > means you can't get any security (or any other) updates for it and > will be vulnerable to crackers. Furthermore, if you machine is very > recent, it may not support the hardware very well. > >> Done some home work on google. >> Some knowledge of debian squeeze and opensuse 11.3. > > I've no experience with either of those. > >> Being a pensionar I do have the time to fiddle around with different >> distros. >> May need some assistance along the redhat way. > > If you want to mess around with Red-Hat-ish distros, you want either > Fedora (version 14 is just out) or CentOS > (v5.5 is current, and v6 will be out soon) . > Fedora is the cutting edge trial area for what will become a real Red > Hat release. CentOS is the free variant of the current Red Hat, and > is nearly exactly like RH except for the branding and (of course) > support. > > If you are new to Linux, especially if coming from Windoze, you might > want to consider Ubuntu which is a derivative > of Debian, but is geared more for the Windoze escapee. It has more > recent stuff than CentOS, but more stable, and for the most part, Just > Works. Rather than ubuntu, I would, and haven't been disappointed, recommend Linux Mint, which has 2 versions: 1. Ubuntu-based, and 2. Debian-based. #2 is more like Fedora, other than being more stable. If you are into tinkering, you might also try Slackware. It's a very different beast from .RPM or .DEB distros, but gives some great learning opportunities. Well, that and some pain, as Rick mentioned. Karl primarily a lurker > > All three distros mentioned can be set up to auto-update, so that you > always have the latest and most secure stuff. > >> Regards >> Johan > > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com > If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the > new has come! 2 Corinthians 5:17 (NIV) > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > --- Karl Pearson Karlp at ourldsfamily.com Owner/Administrator of the sites at http://ourldsfamily.com --- "To mess up your Linux PC, you have to really work at it; to mess up a microsoft PC you just have to work on it." --- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. --Benjamin Franklin --- Children seldom misquote you. In fact, they usually repeat word for word what you shouldn't have said. --- Linux: Because A PC is a terrible thing to waste... --- From johansche at telkomsa.net Fri Nov 19 06:36:44 2010 From: johansche at telkomsa.net (Johan Scheepers) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:36:44 +0200 Subject: new to redhat In-Reply-To: References: <4CE2CD55.1070700@telkomsa.net> <20101116190103.GC31363@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <4CE61AFC.4070100@telkomsa.net> On 19/11/2010 03:37, Karl Pearson wrote: > Rather than ubuntu, I would, and haven't been disappointed, recommend > Linux Mint, which has 2 versions: 1. Ubuntu-based, and 2. Debian-based. > > #2 is more like Fedora, other than being more stable. > > If you are into tinkering, you might also try Slackware. It's a very > different beast from .RPM or .DEB distros, but gives some great learning > opportunities. Well, that and some pain, as Rick mentioned. > > Karl > primarily a lurker > > >> > >> > All three distros mentioned can be set up to auto-update, so that you >> > always have the latest and most secure stuff. >> > >> >>> >> Regards >>> >> Johan >>> >> > >> > >> > Cheers, >> > -- >> > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. >> > Being a pensionar..Yes I am in to tinkering..keeping upstairs in condition. Waiting for slackware by post. Once I have .. with the help of kind list members.. centos running will be looking in the other stuf. Appreciate your suggestions Regards Johan