redhat-list Digest, Vol 2, Issue 1
firoj mithani
mfmithani at hotmail.com
Tue Apr 6 11:55:47 UTC 2004
end-of-life of Red Hat Linux 9.0....
whats the solution...
I have 12 servers runing with linux 9.0
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> 1. RE: Sync Clocks (Tobias Speckbacher)
> 2. Re: Java Optimization on RHEL (Ed Wilts)
> 3. Re: rexecd (Ed Wilts)
> 4. Re: Sync Clocks (Rodolfo J. Paiz)
> 5. Re: (OT) Mail got blocked because of SORBS/DYNABLOCK (Ed Wilts)
> 6. Re: max LV size in RHEL3 kernel 2.4? (Ed Wilts)
> 7. RE: Samba browser fail (Peter Smith)
> 8. SMSterm (edy)
> 9. Fedora or others? (lito lampitoc)
> 10. Re: (OT) Mail got blocked because of SORBS/DYNABLOCK
> (Reuben D. Budiardja)
> 11. Re: Fwd: Please confirm your email for brent at mailstation.us
> (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook)
> 12. PVM and .Xauthority (Ryan Golhar)
> 13. Re: (OT) Mail got blocked because of SORBS/DYNABLOCK (MKlinke)
> 14. Re: Fedora or others? (Rodolfo J. Paiz)
> 15. Re: (OT) Mail got blocked because of SORBS/DYNABLOCK (MKlinke)
> 16. Re: USB Printer (kluu te)
> 17. RE: physical memory support under RHEL for Opteron
> (Chiu, PCM (Peter) )
> 18. Re: Fwd: Please confirm your email for brent at mailstation.us
> (Gary Stainburn)
> 19. Re: (OT) Mail got blocked because of SORBS/DYNABLOCK
> (Reuben D. Budiardja)
> 20. Re: (OT) Mail got blocked because of SORBS/DYNABLOCK
> (Reuben D. Budiardja)
> 21. MAILMAN STRANGE FILES (John Jacks)
> 22. Re: (OT) Mail got blocked because of SORBS/DYNABLOCK (Ed Wilts)
> 23. Re: (OT) Mail got blocked because of SORBS/DYNABLOCK
> (Reuben D. Budiardja)
> 24. RE: physical memory support under RHEL for Opteron
> (Joshua Baker-LePain)
> 25. Re: (OT) Mail got blocked because of SORBS/DYNABLOCK (Gerry Doris)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:26:45 -0800
> From: "Tobias Speckbacher" <tobias at quova.com>
> Subject: RE: Sync Clocks
> To: "General Red Hat Linux discussion list" <redhat-list at redhat.com>
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> Set your cron to execute 'rdate -s some-ntp-server'
>
> Pick whichever you feel is appropriate for you from
> http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/servers.html .
>
> You may have to install the rdate package, other options involve
> configuring ntp ... more info about that at http://www.ntp.org.
>
> -T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com
> [mailto:redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Hernan Dario
> Arredondo
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:08 PM
> To: redhat-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Sync Clocks
>
> Hi everyone
>
>
> I had a problem:
>
> I had a Dell PowerEdge with RHL AS 2.1 and oracle ent. 9.2.03, the
> system
> clock go forward 30sec every day (each 15 day go 7min), but the hardware
> clock works fine , how can I sync the clocks with out program a cron
> job,
> Do I need to apply some patch ???
>
> Regard
>
>
> Hernan D-
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:46:10 -0600
> From: Ed Wilts <ewilts at ewilts.org>
> Subject: Re: Java Optimization on RHEL
> To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <20040401014610.GA4704 at www.ewilts.org>
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> On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 08:53:42AM -0500, Chris Purcell wrote:
> > > We're about to set up an active/passive cluster on two RHEL ES 3.0
> > > servers. The servers will host a Java app that is very resource
> > > intensive. The servers are Compaq ProLiant DL380's with dual P4's and
> > > 4GBs of RAM each.
> > >
> > > I don't know anything about Java, I just do the system administration
> > > here. Are there any Java performance tuning tweaks that can be done
to
> > > the servers to improve the performance of the servers?
> >
> > Anybody? If no one knows, is there a better place to ask this question?
> > Maybe on the Sun Java list perhaps?
>
> How about taroon-list where the RHEL-specific discussions are taking
> place?
>
> .../Ed
> --
> Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:48:17 -0600
> From: Ed Wilts <ewilts at ewilts.org>
> Subject: Re: rexecd
> To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <20040401014817.GB4704 at www.ewilts.org>
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> On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 07:59:58AM -0600, Hemond, Steve wrote:
> > I need rexecd to be installed on my RedHat Linux 9 box. Yum didn't
> > find rexecd in any repository. How can I install it? Maybe it is part
> > of another package?
>
> It's in rsh-server on RHEL.
>
> --
> Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
> mailto:ewilts at ewilts.org
> Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:02:46 -0600
> From: "Rodolfo J. Paiz" <rpaiz at simpaticus.com>
> Subject: Re: Sync Clocks
> To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040331195957.0251f008 at mail.simpaticus.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> At 19:08 3/31/2004, you wrote:
> >I had a Dell PowerEdge with RHL AS 2.1 and oracle ent. 9.2.03, the system
> >clock go forward 30sec every day (each 15 day go 7min), but the hardware
> >clock works fine , how can I sync the clocks with out program a cron job,
>
> I suggest that you have some NTP server always available for the rest of
> the machines on your network, so that all of them can keep the correct
> time. In this case, if this is an important server, then it may as well be
> the time server too. :-) But even if you don't use this machine to serve
> the time to others, running "ntpd" (the Network Time Protocol Daemon) on
it
> will keep its clock perfectly synchronized to the correct time. And after
a
> day or two, ntpd will also adjust how fast your computer's clock runs so
it
> does not waver.
>
> It is not difficult to set up, but you can post to this list if you have
> any problems.
>
>
> --
> Rodolfo J. Paiz
> rpaiz at simpaticus.com
> http://www.simpaticus.com
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:06:58 -0600
> From: Ed Wilts <ewilts at ewilts.org>
> Subject: Re: (OT) Mail got blocked because of SORBS/DYNABLOCK
> To: techlist at voyager.phys.utk.edu, General Red Hat Linux discussion
> list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <20040401020658.GC4704 at www.ewilts.org>
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>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 03:39:08PM -0500, Reuben D. Budiardja wrote:
> >
> > Sorry if this is a little bit OT, but I know some people is
knowledgeable
> > about this.
>
> Guilty :-)
>
> > But when I check the originating IP of this user (he uses his own ISP)
here:
> > http://www.dnsbl.us.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?js&IP=
> >
> > I found entry in the "Dynamic IP Space " section. Looks like his ISP, or
even
> > his IP block is in the list of SORBS.
> > And this
> > http://mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/lookup
> >
> > shows his originating IP in the DUL list (whatever that is).
>
> DUL = Dialup User List
>
> Basically what is happening is that the SMTP server is using a
> dynamically assigned IP address. Every SMTP server has the option of
> checking the list of dynamically assigned addresses to accept or deny
> that particular transaction. Many major ISPs now check this list for
> incoming e-mail. They also notify the collectors of changes in this
> address space. Naturally, they will check this for incoming e-mail, but
> not originating e-mail which they expect to come from their own
> subscribers with dynamic addresses.
>
> By checking this list, you have the potentially to block a *LOT* of
> spam. Infected systems on a cable modem have been measured to send 1
> million or more e-mails per day. Personally, I have an SMTP server
> running and I block e-mail from dynamic addresses even though I'm on a
> dynamic address myself.
>
> The workaround for the end user is to forward all e-mail to the ISP. In
> sendmail, that's known as a smart host, like this:
> # grep [ewilts at p6000 ewilts]$ grep -i smart /etc/mail/sendmail.mc
> define(`SMART_HOST',`smtp:smtp.comcast.net')dnl
>
> smtp.comcast.net does nice things like throttle large amounts of e-mail.
> It normally has absolutely no impact unless I blast stuff out to a
> mailing list, in which case it slows the e-mails down by blocking new
> e-mails from me for a while and then accepting them again. sendmail
> handles that transparently. The advantage to me is I feel a bit more
> protected about people using comcast to blast spam out. I wouldn't feel
> offended at all if comcast blocked me getting out directly via port 25
> and forced us all comcast users to use their mail servers. Every little
> bit ISPs can do to reduce spam woud help.
>
> --
> Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
> mailto:ewilts at ewilts.org
> Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:10:01 -0600
> From: Ed Wilts <ewilts at ewilts.org>
> Subject: Re: max LV size in RHEL3 kernel 2.4?
> To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <20040401021001.GD4704 at www.ewilts.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 02:47:17PM -0600, Alexander Lazarevich wrote:
> > I'm using lvm-1.0.3-15 on RHEL3-AS, kernel 2.4.21-9.0.1.ELsmp.
> >
> > I've got two SCSI devices attached to the system, each one is 1.74TB in
> > size. I want to make a single ext3 filesystem out of those devices. So I
> > thought I'd try using LVM.
>
> I believe I read the discussion thread on taroon-list a while ago that
> 2TB is still the limit. Please check the archives for taroon-list
> (which is where you should post RHEL-specific queries).
>
> --
> Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
> mailto:ewilts at ewilts.org
> Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 12:11:46 +1000
> From: "Peter Smith" <pasmith at wbmpl.com.au>
> Subject: RE: Samba browser fail
> To: "General Red Hat Linux discussion list" <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <NDBBKOGGKKKMCAFFBHGFKEEMEFAA.pasmith at wbmpl.com.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> See below:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com
> [mailto:redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Edward Dekkers
> Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2004 11:25 AM
> To: pasmith at wbmpl.com.au; General Red Hat Linux discussion list
> Subject: Re: Samba browser fail
>
>
> Peter Smith wrote:
>
> > See Below:
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com
> > [mailto:redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Edward Dekkers
> > Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2004 10:28 AM
> > To: pasmith at wbmpl.com.au; General Red Hat Linux discussion list
> > Subject: Re: Samba browser fail
> >
> >
> > Peter Smith wrote:
> >
> >>Hello again,
> >>
> >>I have Googled all day without finding anything helpful.
> >>
> >>I am running RedHat 7.3, kernel 2.4.18-3, samba
2.2.7-security-rollup-fix,
> >>in an NT4 domain.
> >>
> >>This system was running well until I reinstalled the OS. I am using a
> >
> > copy
> >
> >>of the smb.conf and so on that were working before.
> >>
> >>Now, while samba seems to be rinning OK, and the system can mount
Windows
> >>shares without problems, Windows machines cannot see the samba machine
at
> >>all. There is an error report on browsing problems every 15 minutes.
> >>
> >>I append output from the log.nmbd file, starting from where the samba
> >
> > server
> >
> >>successfully joined the NT domain, followed by the [global] section of
> >>smb.conf.
> >>
> >>Has anyone come across this before?
> >>
> >>Thanks for all your help in the past,
> >>Peter Smith
> >>
> >>=============================================
> >>[2004/03/31 14:17:42, 0] nmbd/nmbd.c:terminate(59)
> >> Got SIGTERM: going down...
> >>[2004/03/31 14:19:26, 0] nmbd/nmbd.c:main(794)
> >> Netbios nameserver version 2.2.7-security-rollup-fix started.
> >> Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1994-2002
> >>[2004/03/31 14:19:26, 0] param/loadparm.c:map_parameter(2077)
> >> Unknown parameter encountered: "allow null passwords"
> >>[2004/03/31 14:19:26, 0] param/loadparm.c:lp_do_parameter(2751)
> >> Ignoring unknown parameter "allow null passwords"
> >>[2004/03/31 14:24:52, 0]
> >>nmbd/nmbd_become_lmb.c:become_local_master_stage2(404)
> >> *****
> >>
> >> Samba name server BACKSERV is now a local master browser for workgroup
> >
> > WBM
> >
> >>on subnet 192.168.0.4
> >>
> >> *****
> >>[2004/03/31 14:25:14, 0]
> >>nmbd/nmbd_browsesync.c:find_domain_master_name_query_fail(358)
> >> find_domain_master_name_query_fail:
> >> Unable to find the Domain Master Browser name WBM<1b> for the
workgroup
> >>WBM.
> >> Unable to sync browse lists in this workgroup.
> >>[2004/03/31 14:40:14, 0]
> >>nmbd/nmbd_browsesync.c:find_domain_master_name_query_fail(358)
> >> find_domain_master_name_query_fail:
> >> Unable to find the Domain Master Browser name WBM<1b> for the
workgroup
> >>WBM.
> >> Unable to sync browse lists in this workgroup.
> >>=============================================
> >>[global]
> >> wins server = 192.168.0.6
> >> passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
> >> pam password change = Yes
> >> printing = lprng
> >> dns proxy = No
> >> encrypt passwords = Yes
> >> allow null passwords = Yes
> >> socket options = TCP_NODELAY IPTOS_LOWDELAY SO_SNDBUF=14596
> >>SO_RCVBUF=14596
> >> max log size = 0
> >> preferred master = No
> >> password server = ECOSERV
> >> obey pam restrictions = Yes
> >> passwd chat = *New*password* %n\n *Retype*new*password* %n\n
> >>*passwd:*all*authentication*tokens*updated*successfully*
> >> security = DOMAIN
> >> unix password sync = Yes
> >> server string = %L Samba Server %v
> >> workgroup = WBM
> >> log file = /var/log/samba/%m.log
> >> netbios name = BACKSERV
> >> os level = 33
> >> kernel oplocks = No
> >> domain master = No
> >>=============================================
> >
> >
> > >I could be wrong but it looks to me like it can't find the master for
> > >the domain, hence it can't add itself to the browse list stored on the
> > >other server. In a domain setup, there is only one master browser.
> >
> > >Regards,
> > >Ed.
> >
> > Well, yes, that is what I thought - but it knows about the PDC and the
> > password server.
> >
> > What else can I tell it? There doesn't seem to be an option for
> specifying
> > the name (or IP) of the master browser.
>
> >A very stupid question, as you more than likely know what you're doing
> >but your firewall (if you have one - you should), IS allowing the
> >netbios crap through for proper conversation with the PDC right?
>
> >Regards,
> >Ed.
>
> Everything is inside the firewall. Besides, it was all working before I
> reinstalled RH 7.3.
> The smb.conf was copied from the previous install. I am part way through
> apt-getting the latest upgrades, but this problem shows up in log.nmbd
> immediately after the re-install from the RH 7.3 boxed set.
>
> I have a number of odd problems here at the moment, and the only common
> factor appears to be me. Scary ...
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 09:57:05 +0700
> From: "edy" <edy_apku at pikhospital.com>
> Subject: SMSterm
> To: "Redhat" <Redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <000d01c41795$0404dcd0$1466a8b6 at mmu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi,
> i need help in smsterm.i already install smsterm on redhat 9.0 but when i
try tail -f smsterm.log an error occurs say:
>
> SMSTerm-0.6.1: Opening logfile at Thu Apr 1 09:39:47 2004
> Trying to connect...failed:socket error[server]: IO::Socket::INET: Bad
hostname 'login.icq.com'
> sending:
> SMSTerm initialised.
> Terminating SMSTerm
> Exiting..
> SMSTerm-0.6.1: Closing logfile at Thu Apr 1 09:41:38 2004
>
>
> what should i check and do to fix this errors??
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Edy
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> Message: 9
> Date: 01 Apr 2004 12:04:24 +0800
> From: lito lampitoc <ral at codewan.com.ph>
> Subject: Fedora or others?
> To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1080792264.2708.28.camel at lito>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Hello All,
>
> I am currently in a dilemma of whether to use Fedora Core 1 or use other
> distribution for my production servers. I know this may sound silly for
> others to consider deploying Fedora for production servers but my
> organization is just a poor foundation begging big companies for a dime.
>
> I am currently running RedHat 8.0 and I am very comfortable with RedHat
> since I started using it way back 1999. The news of RH ending life for
> 8.0 last December and 9.0 this April left me in shock, I thought it was
> fortunate that Fedora is there, but I can't trust it since it is just a
> test version. For a while, I thought of shifting to other rpm based
> distro like Mandrake, but I'm having second thoughts because my skills
> are honed for RH and I really loved this distro.
>
> Currently, I am running a web, mail, ftp, radius, mysql on my RH 8.0
> servers on WAN. I need a secure and stable distribution that is free and
> still leverage my RH skills. Debian sounds great, but I don't like it.
>
> Can anybody shed some light? any recommendation is appreciated.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:18:12 -0500
> From: "Reuben D. Budiardja" <techlist at voyager.phys.utk.edu>
> Subject: Re: (OT) Mail got blocked because of SORBS/DYNABLOCK
> To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <200403312318.12345.techlist at voyager.phys.utk.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Wednesday 31 March 2004 09:06 pm, Ed Wilts wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 03:39:08PM -0500, Reuben D. Budiardja wrote:
> <snip>
> >
> > DUL = Dialup User List
> >
> > Basically what is happening is that the SMTP server is using a
> > dynamically assigned IP address. <snip>
>
> No, my SMTP server is not in dial up, it's static. OK, let me try to
explain
> my question again.
>
> A friend of mine uses dial-up/cable with his ISP (Bellsouth). He uses MS
> Outlook client. I gave him account on my mail server (has static IP, SMTP
> Auth, IMAP). I told him to put in my mail server domain name as the SMTP
> server when setting up MS Outlook.
> Then, he sent email, he got tagged as RECV_IN_DYNABLOCK. Why?
>
> I use Kmail on my desktop (which is different than the mail server), I put
in
> this same mail server domain as my SMTP, and I tried sending email to the
> same address that he tried. My email did not trigger any rule.
>
> So that confuses me. If he's using my SMTP server, he should not get
tagged,
> regardless of his IP, cause he's using a legit SMTP server (which is mine,
on
> static domain). Could someone tell me what I am missing?
>
> Thanks a lot for the replies.
>
> RDB
> --
> Reuben D. Budiardja
> Department of Physics and Astronomy
> The University of Tennessee, Knoxville, TN
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> "To be a nemesis, you have to actively try to destroy
> something, don't you? Really, I'm not out to destroy
> Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional
> side effect."
> - Linus Torvalds -
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:12:44 +0000 (UTC)
> From: "Joe(theWordy)Philbrook" <jtwdyp at ttlc.net>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Please confirm your email for brent at mailstation.us
> To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.50.0403312213250.17277-100000 at localhost>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Seams like a lose/lose situation, either the list's contributors get
> pummeled with these very annoying "http://www.MailStation.US" links. OR
> "http://www.MailStation.US" users have to give up on an easy anti-spam
> solution.
>
> Unless of course there is a simple compromise... Steve says the problem
> is that the "From:" header line doesn't indicate the redhat list?
> Might I suggest that those list users who wish yo use that kind of
> spamblocking subscribe instead to the "Digest" version. Then the actual
> "From:" header would say "redhat-list-request at redhat.com" with
> individual subjects embedded in the attachments. If a list user can't do
> without such an inane form of spam protection on the mailbox used to
> subscribe, then I think it's only common courtesy for them to subscribe
> to the version that can be programed into their white list.
>
> Wouldn't that solve the problem? Err of course that is IF and only IF
> you can get the "http://www.MailStation.US" users to settle for the
> digest...
>
> Granted the "Digest" may take a little getting used to for some. And it
> might be that some mail clients make it difficult to work with. But I
> can say it's no problem with pine. I simply index an attachment from
> the attachment list. IE: this time I selected a line that said:
> ' Message, "Re: Fwd: Please confirm your email for'
> Then selected the view function. Since I started the reply while viewing
> the message pine took care of the subject line for me and initially
> quoted only the one attachment's content... So I'm inclined to think the
> better gui mail clients should handle the digest well enough.
>
> It's just an idea...
> --
> | --- ___
> | <0> <-> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
> | ^
> | ~\___/~
>
> But if I actually knew everything, then I'd know I was an idiot...
>
> It would appear that on Mar 29, Steve Buehler did say:
>
> > I agree, but to fight the amount of spam that goes through is not easy
some
> > times. The problem with mailing lists like this one is that the from
line
> > does NOT say it is from the redhat list but instead, the user who sent
to
> > the redhat list. So they can't put that into their program to allow it
to
> > come through. I don't use these type of services, but when getting
around
> > 10,000 emails a day and only about 1,000 are valid for me, it is real
tempting.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > At 09:15 AM 3/29/2004, you wrote:
> > >AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
> > >
> > >why do these people insist on using this inane and anoying system when
> > >subscribing to mailing lists??????????????
> > >
> > >I know I've ranted about this before but it's still annoying.
>
> - - - - - - - - -< s n i p >- - - - - - - - - -
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:44:58 -0500
> From: "Ryan Golhar" <golharam at umdnj.edu>
> Subject: PVM and .Xauthority
> To: <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <002f01c417a4$16501940$ad00a8c0 at GOLHARMOBILE1>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> I'm trying to set up several RedHat EL WS machines to use PVM. All
> users who log onto the machines have their home directories mounted from
> an NFS share.
>
> I've set up the ssh-agent to allow me to log in from one machine to
> another without prompting for passwords, and all works well.
>
> Now, when I run pvm and try to add a host, it attempts to connect and I
> get the error:
>
> Rsh/Rhosts Access FAILED - "Warning: No xauth data; using fake
> authentication data for X11 forwarding"
>
> Is this because I have X11 forwarding turned on by default, or is it
> something else? I never got this error before when using ssh until now.
> If I delete the .Xauthority file and log in again, it gets created and
> the error goes away. This only happens when I try to use pvm. Any
> ideas?
>
>
> -----
> Ryan Golhar
> Computational Biologist
> The Informatics Institute at
> The University of Medicine & Dentistry of NJ
>
> Phone: 973-972-5034
> Fax: 973-972-7412
> Email: golharam at umdnj.edu
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:53:13 -0600
> From: MKlinke <mklinke at axsi.com>
> Subject: Re: (OT) Mail got blocked because of SORBS/DYNABLOCK
> To: techlist at voyager.phys.utk.edu, General Red Hat Linux discussion
> list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <200403312253.13535.mklinke at axsi.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Wednesday 31 March 2004 22:18, Reuben D. Budiardja wrote:
>
> > No, my SMTP server is not in dial up, it's static. OK, let me try
> > to explain my question again.
> >
> > A friend of mine uses dial-up/cable with his ISP (Bellsouth). He
> > uses MS Outlook client. I gave him account on my mail server (has
> > static IP, SMTP Auth, IMAP). I told him to put in my mail server
> > domain name as the SMTP server when setting up MS Outlook.
> > Then, he sent email, he got tagged as RECV_IN_DYNABLOCK. Why?
> >
> > I use Kmail on my desktop (which is different than the mail
> > server), I put in this same mail server domain as my SMTP, and I
> > tried sending email to the same address that he tried. My email did
> > not trigger any rule.
> >
> > So that confuses me. If he's using my SMTP server, he should not
> > get tagged, regardless of his IP, cause he's using a legit SMTP
> > server (which is mine, on static domain). Could someone tell me
> > what I am missing?
> >
>
> It's HIS address that is getting tagged as a dial-up. Look at the
> first "Received:" header in any of his messages. It will indicate
> that his IP address logged into your smtp server.
>
> Regards, Mike Klinke
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:12:13 -0600
> From: "Rodolfo J. Paiz" <rpaiz at simpaticus.com>
> Subject: Re: Fedora or others?
> To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040331230358.02474898 at mail.simpaticus.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> At 22:04 3/31/2004, you wrote:
> >I am currently in a dilemma of whether to use Fedora Core 1 or use other
> >distribution for my production servers.
>
> My sincere, personal opinion: use Fedora.
>
> >I thought it was fortunate that Fedora is there, but I can't trust it
> >since it is just a test version.
>
> Please don't listen to the idiots who say Fedora "is just a test version."
>
> Fedora Core 1 is exactly what Red Hat Linux 10 would have been. The major
> changes are that (1) Red Hat has opened up the development process to the
> community and will allow much, much greater participation (with the
> accompanying much greater responsibility); (2) the pace of development and
> integration of new tools and technologies will be somewhat faster; and (3)
> they do not offer nor sell commercial support.
>
> In the past, some people said Red Hat Linux was too slow to bring in
> cutting-edge technology, while others said that progress was too quick and
> they needed servers that didn't change for several years. With the split
> between Fedora and Red Hat Enterprise Linux, RH attempts to please both
> while improving profitability. Red Hat is no use to any of us if they're
> broke, right?
>
> Fedora should be approximately as stable as Red Hat Linux was, if not more
> since the whole devel process and many of the Linux tools are more mature.
> It is also Open Source, Free (as in "with freedom"), and free (as in "at
no
> cost"). You are likely to enjoy it just as much, if not more, than you
> enjoyed RHL.
>
> There is too much fear-mongering out there... if you cannot afford to pay
> money for a Linux distro, you should be happy with Fedora. You *could*
also
> look at WBEL or other "rebuilt from SRPMS" copies of Red Hat Enterprise
> Linux... those will offer more robustness and stability *if* their
> communities can keep up with patches and updates. Whether or not they will
> be able to do so is, of course, too early to tell.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> --
> Rodolfo J. Paiz
> rpaiz at simpaticus.com
> http://www.simpaticus.com
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:31:43 -0600
> From: MKlinke <mklinke at axsi.com>
> Subject: Re: (OT) Mail got blocked because of SORBS/DYNABLOCK
> To: techlist at voyager.phys.utk.edu, General Red Hat Linux discussion
> list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <200403312331.43686.mklinke at axsi.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> Below is part of the FAQ from njabl.org. It shows a sample of a
> spamassassin configuration. If you query the njabl.org database it
> will return one or more of the 127.0.0.x IP address strings if the
> address of interest is in the database. For example, to query your
> address simply reverse your IP address and type: (x = your real
> numbers)
>
> # host 103.28.xx.xxx.dnsbl.njabl.org
> # host 103.28.xx.xxx.dnsbl.sorbs.net (for the sorbs database)
>
> Notice that you can temper scores base on whether a DUL, OPEN RELAY,
> PROXY, or etc. is found within spamassassin.
>
> Plug your friend's address in to see what happens.
>
> Regards, Mike Klinke
>
> ====================== from the njabl.org FAQ ======
>
> Our dnsbl can also be used to tag potential spam messages (letting
> individual users decide what action to take) using Spamassassin.
> After you have Spamassassin properly installed, add the following to
> your local.cf, probably /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf: (note:
> according to the Spamassassin developers, these rules will only work
> with Spamassassin up to version 2.5x and will not work properly with
> Spamassassin >= 2.6x)
>
> header IN_NJABL_ORG rbleval:check_rbl('njabl','dnsbl.njabl.org.')
> describe IN_NJABL_ORG Received via a relay in dnsbl.njabl.org
> tflags IN_NJABL_ORG net
>
> header NJABL_OPEN_RELAY rbleval:check_rbl_results_for('njabl',
> '127.0.0.2')
> describe NJABL_OPEN_RELAY DNSBL: sender is Confirmed Open Relay
> tflags NJABL_OPEN_RELAY net
>
> header NJABL_DUL rbleval:check_rbl_results_for('njabl',
> '127.0.0.3')
> describe NJABL_DUL DNSBL: sender ip address in in a
> dialup block
> tflags NJABL_DUL net
>
> header NJABL_SPAM_SRC rbleval:check_rbl_results_for('njabl',
> '127.0.0.4')
> describe NJABL_SPAM_SRC DNSBL: sender is Confirmed Spam Source
> tflags NJABL_SPAM_SRC net
>
> header NJABL_MULTI_STAGE rbleval:check_rbl_results_for('njabl',
> '127.0.0.5')
> describe NJABL_MULTI_STAGE DNSBL: sent through multi-stage open
> relay
> tflags NJABL_MULTI_STAGE net
>
> header NJABL_CGI rbleval:check_rbl_results_for('njabl',
> '127.0.0.8')
> describe NJABL_CGI DNSBL: sender is an open formmail
> tflags NJABL_CGI net
>
> header NJABL_PROXY rbleval:check_rbl_results_for('njabl',
> '127.0.0.9')
> describe NJABL_PROXY DNSBL: sender is an open proxy
> tflags NJABL_PROXY net
>
> score IN_NJABL_ORG 0.38
> score NJABL_DUL 0.62
> score NJABL_MULTI_STAGE 0.75
> score NJABL_PROXY 3.00
> score NJABL_OPEN_RELAY 3.00
> score NJABL_CGI 1.50
> score NJABL_SPAM_SRC 3.00
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 04:28:11 +0100
> From: "kluu te" <linuxpower at operamail.com>
> Subject: Re: USB Printer
> To: "General Red Hat Linux discussion list" <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <20040401032811.D9EFC23AB1 at ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Try to put in the printer URI in the print command line in printer share
in smb.conf. instead of -Pepson or what your printer is called.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Edward Dekkers <edward at tripled.iinet.net.au>
> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 09:23:02 +0800
> To: edwin at ironstone.com.au,General Red Hat Linux discussion list
<redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: USB Printer
>
> > Edwin Humphries wrote:
> >
> > > On 31 Mar 2004 at 8:58, Edward Dekkers wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Edwin Humphries wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>We're trying to share an Epson USB printer via Samba on our new
Fedora server.
> > >
> > >
> > >>>The share is set up OK, and can be seen and opened from Windows
clients.
> > >>>However, although the Fedora box can print to the Epson, the Windows
boxes can.
> > >
> > >
> > >>I'm assuming this is a typo, I'm sure you wouldn't be posting if they
> > >>can both print OK.
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, sorry: should read "can't".
> > >
> > >
> > >>>All other Samba shares, including a laser printer connected to the
parallel
> > >>>port, work fine.
> > >>>
> > >>>Does anyone have a clue how to fix this?
> > >
> > >
> > >>Please tell us EXACTLY what's happening. Just saying something doesn't
> > >>work really isn't good enough to guess what is going wrong.
> > >
> > >
> > > I've checked the port settings on the Epson driver: if I install it
from the Epson
> > > CD, it's set to LPT1: and can't be changed, so that doesn't work. If I
install it
> > > from the Add Printer "wizard", the job (usually print test from
windows) shows up on
> > > the Epson Status Monitor showing a connection error.
> >
> > OK, forget the status monitor for starters - this is simply not going to
> > work over the samba share, as it relies on the Windows driver. Linux
> > doesn't have the Windows driver, hence the status monitor is not going
> > to work.
> >
> > I cannot remember EXACTLY what I did to get my C82 working like your
> > configuration, but I do remember I had to change something inside the
> > cups configuration files to set the cups system to RAW printing mode.
> >
> > I found the answer on the net at that stage, and since the printer is no
> > longer on my server, I cannot give you the exact answer. The reason I
> > took it off the server and shared it with a real windows PC instead is
> > because the C82 has 4 ink cartridges, yet only 1 ink out indicator. The
> > status monitor is the ONLY way to see which ink is out. Really stupid on
> > Epson's part, they obviously assumed everybody in the world runs
> > Windows, but nothing I can do about it. The earlier printers with 1
> > black, 1 tri-colour DID have 2 ink indicator LEDs, this has only become
> > a problem in the recent models.
> >
> > Just having a look in /etc/cups right now, I've found it again. There's
> > two files: mime.types and mime.conv
> >
> > BOTH have a section in there called RAW printing support. I simply
> > un-commented those lines (as instructed in the comments), and hey
> > presto, I could print to the Epson.
> >
> > However - You haven't given us the model of the Epson, but if you have
> > less ink indicator LEDs than actual inks inside the printer, you really
> > do need the monitor unless someone's written a clever program for Linux
> > to monitor this for you.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ed.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request at redhat.com?subject=unsubscribe
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
>
> --
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 08:19:59 +0100
> From: "Chiu, PCM (Peter) " <P.C.M.Chiu at rl.ac.uk>
> Subject: RE: physical memory support under RHEL for Opteron
> To: "'Joshua Baker-LePain'" <jlb17 at duke.edu>,
> "'redhat-list at redhat.com'" <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Cc: "Chiu, PCM \(Peter\) " <P.C.M.Chiu at rl.ac.uk>
> Message-ID:
> <49F73BEED865D3119F8700902773C9F903D0EA29 at exchange09.rl.ac.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Many thanks,
>
> I have also gathered from a couple of vendors that they
> have experienced a problem in getting IDE and SATA working
> to an opterons with more than 4GB of memory. One theory is that
> quite a number of IDE and SATA controllers are still running 32-bit codes.
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Baker-LePain [mailto:jlb17 at duke.edu]
> Sent: 31 March 2004 18:12
> To: redhat-list at redhat.com
> Cc: Chiu, PCM (Peter)
> Subject: physical memory support under RHEL for Opteron
>
>
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 at 12:00pm, redhat-list-request at redhat.com wrote
>
> > I am just about to order an dual Opteron 248 server to run under RHEL
> > AS.
> >
> > I would like to double check the physical memory supported - we are
> > getting 8 x 2GB PC3200 or PC2700 memory on this server.
> >
> > I have found something a bit obscure on the RH web page:
> > http://www.redhat.com/software/rhel/as/
> > <http://www.redhat.com/software/rhel/as/>
> >
> > in that it said:
> >
> > ** 64GB is the maximum memory size for X86 systems. Maximum memory
> > sizes vary with other architectures.
> >
> > Can anyone confirm
> > a. the maximum memory size for Opterons supported, and
> > b. the maximum usable physical memory per process on user applications
>
> >From /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-9.EL/Documentation/x86_64/mm.txt on my RHEL3.0
> AMD64 system:
>
> The paging design used on the x86-64 linux kernel port in 2.4.x provides:
>
> o per process virtual address space limit of 512 Gigabytes
> o top of userspace stack located at address 0x0000007fffffffff
> o start of the kernel mapping = 0x0000010000000000
> o global RAM per system 508*512GB=254 Terabytes
> o no need of any common code change
> o 512GB of vmalloc/ioremap space
>
> So I think you're OK with 16GB. ;) FWIW, that systems has 8GB and runs
> wonderfully. Be sure to follow the recommendations in bugs 118152 and
> 115438, which fix a couple of memory issues.
>
> --
> Joshua Baker-LePain
> Department of Biomedical Engineering
> Duke University
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:25:31 +0100
> From: Gary Stainburn <gary.stainburn at ringways.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Please confirm your email for brent at mailstation.us
> To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <200404011025.31841.gary.stainburn at ringways.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Thursday 01 April 2004 12:12 am, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> > Seams like a lose/lose situation, either the list's contributors get
> > pummeled with these very annoying "http://www.MailStation.US" links. OR
> > "http://www.MailStation.US" users have to give up on an easy anti-spam
> > solution.
>
> There are two problems here. Firstly, I use reply-to-all, because on most
> mailing lists, that's the easiest way to ensure that my reply gets back to
> the list. However, this means that an email also gets back direct to the
> original author - with this direct post being the possible cause. I've
> noticed that this list actually changes the reply-to to include the list
> address.
>
> Secondly, MailStation presumably isn't clever enough to check other
headers,
> such as List-Id, or reply-to. If it checked the reply-to alone, it would
> allow the messages through.
>
> >
> > Unless of course there is a simple compromise... Steve says the problem
> > is that the "From:" header line doesn't indicate the redhat list?
> > Might I suggest that those list users who wish yo use that kind of
> > spamblocking subscribe instead to the "Digest" version. Then the actual
> > "From:" header would say "redhat-list-request at redhat.com" with
> > individual subjects embedded in the attachments. If a list user can't do
> > without such an inane form of spam protection on the mailbox used to
> > subscribe, then I think it's only common courtesy for them to subscribe
> > to the version that can be programed into their white list.
> >
> > Wouldn't that solve the problem? Err of course that is IF and only IF
> > you can get the "http://www.MailStation.US" users to settle for the
> > digest...
> >
> > Granted the "Digest" may take a little getting used to for some. And it
> > might be that some mail clients make it difficult to work with. But I
> > can say it's no problem with pine. I simply index an attachment from
> > the attachment list. IE: this time I selected a line that said:
> > ' Message, "Re: Fwd: Please confirm your email for'
> > Then selected the view function. Since I started the reply while viewing
> > the message pine took care of the subject line for me and initially
> > quoted only the one attachment's content... So I'm inclined to think the
> > better gui mail clients should handle the digest well enough.
> >
> > It's just an idea...
>
> Unfortunately, not every mail client's as good as pine.
>
> I still think the best but most unlikely solution is to get MailStation to
> have more intelligent filters, but until then I'm simply going to send any
> posts from them straight into the bit-bucket.
>
> --
> Gary Stainburn
>
> This email does not contain private or confidential material as it
> may be snooped on by interested government parties for unknown
> and undisclosed purposes - Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, 2000
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 07:24:09 -0500
> From: "Reuben D. Budiardja" <techlist at voyager.phys.utk.edu>
> Subject: Re: (OT) Mail got blocked because of SORBS/DYNABLOCK
> To: mklinke at axsi.com, General Red Hat Linux discussion list
> <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <200404010724.09647.techlist at voyager.phys.utk.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Wednesday 31 March 2004 11:53 pm, MKlinke wrote:
> > On Wednesday 31 March 2004 22:18, Reuben D. Budiardja wrote:
> > > No, my SMTP server is not in dial up, it's static. OK, let me try
> > > to explain my question again.
> <snip>
> > > So that confuses me. If he's using my SMTP server, he should not
> > > get tagged, regardless of his IP, cause he's using a legit SMTP
> > > server (which is mine, on static domain). Could someone tell me
> > > what I am missing?
> >
> > It's HIS address that is getting tagged as a dial-up. Look at the
> > first "Received:" header in any of his messages. It will indicate
> > that his IP address logged into your smtp server.
>
> So, regardless of what SMTP server he uses, he will still be tagged by the
> rule ? Well, that's not very nice of SA.
> On the other hand, he also has another email account, and sending email
from
> that other account did not trigger the same rule. If the SA rule is
triggered
> because of his originating IP address, then it should be triggered
whatever
> email account or SMTP server that he uses, right ?
>
> RDB
>
> --
> Reuben D. Budiardja
> Department of Physics and Astronomy
> The University of Tennessee, Knoxville, TN
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> "To be a nemesis, you have to actively try to destroy
> something, don't you? Really, I'm not out to destroy
> Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional
> side effect."
> - Linus Torvalds -
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 07:27:21 -0500
> From: "Reuben D. Budiardja" <techlist at voyager.phys.utk.edu>
> Subject: Re: (OT) Mail got blocked because of SORBS/DYNABLOCK
> To: mklinke at axsi.com, General Red Hat Linux discussion list
> <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <200404010727.21485.techlist at voyager.phys.utk.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Thursday 01 April 2004 12:31 am, MKlinke wrote:
> > Below is part of the FAQ from njabl.org. It shows a sample of a
> > spamassassin configuration. If you query the njabl.org database it
> > will return one or more of the 127.0.0.x IP address strings if the
> > address of interest is in the database. For example, to query your
> > address simply reverse your IP address and type: (x = your real
> > numbers)
>
> Thanks, but unfortunately, the spamassasin is not mine. It's on yet
another
> mail server. I found out about this because I have a mail account on that
> other mail server, and everytime my friend sends me email there, he got
> tagged. This concerns me because he's going to use that mail account as a
> businness account. If this happens in general with most SA, it's not good.
>
> RDB
> --
> Reuben D. Budiardja
> Department of Physics and Astronomy
> The University of Tennessee, Knoxville, TN
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> "To be a nemesis, you have to actively try to destroy
> something, don't you? Really, I'm not out to destroy
> Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional
> side effect."
> - Linus Torvalds -
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 14:38:43 +0200
> From: "John Jacks" <mibsun at gibnynex.gi>
> Subject: MAILMAN STRANGE FILES
> To: <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <001d01c417e6$44aad5e0$4301d00a at ladbrokescasino.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi ,
> In th/var/log/mailman folder ;there are 100's of files like for eg
error.4.1.1.1.1.2.1 .Please can anyone suggest why are these files getting
created .These all are 0 byte files .
> Thanks
> mibsun
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>
> Message: 22
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 06:47:24 -0600
> From: Ed Wilts <ewilts at ewilts.org>
> Subject: Re: (OT) Mail got blocked because of SORBS/DYNABLOCK
> To: techlist at voyager.phys.utk.edu, General Red Hat Linux discussion
> list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <20040401124724.GC19153 at www.ewilts.org>
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> On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 07:24:09AM -0500, Reuben D. Budiardja wrote:
> > So, regardless of what SMTP server he uses, he will still be tagged by
the
> > rule ? Well, that's not very nice of SA.
>
> What he should be doing is sending his e-mail through his ISP's mail
> server as I pointed out in an earlier response. That e-mail will be
> accepted by the ISP, and if it's then forwarded to your mail server, you
> won't trigger the rule because you received the e-mail from the ISP, not
> from the original sender.
>
> The rule only gets triggered based on the SMTP server you received the
> e-mail from, not from every SMTP server along the way.
>
> --
> Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
> mailto:ewilts at ewilts.org
> Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 23
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 08:04:21 -0500
> From: "Reuben D. Budiardja" <techlist at voyager.phys.utk.edu>
> Subject: Re: (OT) Mail got blocked because of SORBS/DYNABLOCK
> To: Ed Wilts <ewilts at ewilts.org>, General Red Hat Linux discussion
> list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <200404010804.21474.techlist at voyager.phys.utk.edu>
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> On Thursday 01 April 2004 07:47 am, Ed Wilts wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 07:24:09AM -0500, Reuben D. Budiardja wrote:
> > > So, regardless of what SMTP server he uses, he will still be tagged by
> > > the rule ? Well, that's not very nice of SA.
> >
> > What he should be doing is sending his e-mail through his ISP's mail
> > server as I pointed out in an earlier response.
>
> OK, I'll tell him that. But . . .
>
> > That e-mail will be
> > accepted by the ISP, and if it's then forwarded to your mail server, you
> > won't trigger the rule because you received the e-mail from the ISP, not
> > from the original sender.
> > The rule only gets triggered based on the SMTP server you received the
> > e-mail from, not from every SMTP server along the way.
>
> I still don't understand this quite well. The account that trigger the
rule
> received the mail from my SMTP server.
> I believe this is what happening to the mail relaying:
>
> a --> B ---> C --- d
>
> a = my friend home computer, MS Outlook client, set up to use B's domain
name
> as his SMTP server
> B = mail server that *I own*. SMTP relay only with authentication. No SA,
just
> relay.
> C = Another mail server, has SA in it, the one whose rules is triggered
> d = my IMAP account in C's mail server
>
> Now, my friend sent email to my d address, from his a computer. But he's
using
> B as his SMTP server. So from C's point of view, mail is coming/relayed
from
> B. B has static IP address, and as far as I can tell, not in any RBL.
> When I check my email in my d address, I see that C has tagged my friend
> email.
> Why would C care if the mail coming from a, and tag it? It should only see
> that the mail came from B, and not tag it.
>
> Thanks a lot for all the help.
>
> RDB
> --
> Reuben D. Budiardja
> Department of Physics and Astronomy
> The University of Tennessee, Knoxville, TN
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> "To be a nemesis, you have to actively try to destroy
> something, don't you? Really, I'm not out to destroy
> Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional
> side effect."
> - Linus Torvalds -
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 08:42:40 -0500 (EST)
> From: Joshua Baker-LePain <jlb17 at duke.edu>
> Subject: RE: physical memory support under RHEL for Opteron
> To: "Chiu, PCM (Peter) " <P.C.M.Chiu at rl.ac.uk>
> Cc: "'redhat-list at redhat.com'" <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0404010839330.26077 at chaos.egr.duke.edu>
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> On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 at 8:19am, Chiu, PCM (Peter) wrote
>
> > I have also gathered from a couple of vendors that they
> > have experienced a problem in getting IDE and SATA working
> > to an opterons with more than 4GB of memory. One theory is that
> > quite a number of IDE and SATA controllers are still running 32-bit
codes.
>
> That system uses the Arima (Rioworks?) HDAMA motherboard, and I've had no
> issues with it.
>
> --
> Joshua Baker-LePain
> Department of Biomedical Engineering
> Duke University
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 25
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 09:08:07 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Gerry Doris" <gdoris at rogers.com>
> Subject: Re: (OT) Mail got blocked because of SORBS/DYNABLOCK
> To: techlist at voyager.phys.utk.edu, "General Red Hat Linux discussion
> list" <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <38147.129.80.22.143.1080828487.squirrel at 65.48.246.102>
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> snip...
> > I still don't understand this quite well. The account that trigger the
> > rule
> > received the mail from my SMTP server.
> > I believe this is what happening to the mail relaying:
> >
> > a --> B ---> C --- d
> >
> > a = my friend home computer, MS Outlook client, set up to use B's domain
> > name
> > as his SMTP server
> > B = mail server that *I own*. SMTP relay only with authentication. No
SA,
> > just
> > relay.
> > C = Another mail server, has SA in it, the one whose rules is triggered
> > d = my IMAP account in C's mail server
> >
> > Now, my friend sent email to my d address, from his a computer. But he's
> > using
> > B as his SMTP server. So from C's point of view, mail is coming/relayed
> > from
> > B. B has static IP address, and as far as I can tell, not in any RBL.
> > When I check my email in my d address, I see that C has tagged my friend
> > email.
> > Why would C care if the mail coming from a, and tag it? It should only
see
> > that the mail came from B, and not tag it.
> >
> > Thanks a lot for all the help.
> >
> > RDB
>
> The entire point of the rule is to prevent A from sending mail directly
> from his system. No one cares what servers the mail passes through after
> it leaves user A's box.
>
> This rule has become popular for a couple of reasons:
>
> 1. many of the folks using cable and DSL modems in dhcp blocks have
> misconfigured their servers and are causing grief...often to their ISP's
> other users.
>
> 2. many of the ISP's owning these ip blocks have end user agreements
> prohibiting their customers from running servers. These ISP's sometimes
> charge for hosting and want to prevent competition from their own users.
>
> As Ed pointed out, if user A relays through his ISP's email server then
> the rule will not be triggered. I have to do exactly this to avoid
> triggering the rule at the receiving end. Besides, my ISP is rather anal
> about servers on his network.
>
>
> Gerry
>
>
>
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