Fate of RedHat

[Ravi Verma]

Dear Steve:

I apologize if my ranting offended you. I have not slept for the past
two days courtesy poor packaging from Oracle Corporation. We have
Jboss(www.jboss.org) to compare with Oracle Application Server. I do not
know if you have experience with both. If you have detailed exposure to
both, you would agree that choosing Oracle Application Server over Jboss
is not a smart thing. During installation when you have to change disks,
Oracle Installer does not release the CDROM device. You have to install
from the hard-drive. Please note that I did not use a word like "brain
dead" this time. That would be ranting.

Regarding your response, I am mildly surprised at the uncanny similarity
between your thoughts and what Oracle marketing has to say about this
issue. 

You may also note that Oracle Database 10g installed on the
"unsupported" version of Linux without a hitch. I wonder what is
"unsupported" Linux. Does RedHat has its own "supported" Linux?

Once again I apologize for my ranting. My recent experience is fritingly
similar to what happened when Solaris came along. These were the same
language that we heard as to why it was imperative for certain software
to run on "supported" Unix like Solaris and not on the Berkeley Unix.

Regards.

Ravi Verma
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Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 1:38 PM
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Subject: RE: Fate of RedHat


On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Ravi Verma wrote:

> Dear Friends:
> 
[ fanatical rant snipped ]

Possibly is is so that Oracle (who's market is not the general home user

or small business, but rather the larger business sector) can ensure
that 
their software will be installed on a system that they know will have 
support from another commercial entity.

While it will not be foolproof - it will mean that if something is found
to be an OS bug then Oracle can say to the customer "I would suggest
that you take this up with your OS vendor to fix" and leave it at that
instead of getting into the OS market and having to release "Oracle
patches" to the customers OS.

If you dont like it - then use another database product, switch to
debian, 
go the unsupported route, but ranting like this just shows your lack of 
understanding of the requirements of the larger business sector and how 
they differ from smaller organisations. Complaining to the redhat
mailing 
list is probably not going to get any of your issues solved.

At least the larger corporates like Oracle have started to recognise
that 
Linux is a viable OS and has reached maturity - and are supporting it as

best they know how - who knows, if other Linux OS vendors prove to have
a 
stable and _supported_ (read: commercially) platform then you may find 
that these get Oracle ports as well - and this in turn leads to the 
ability to run it on unsupported linux distributions as well. As linux 
advocates we should be thankful for this, it shows that we are doign 
things right and that we are getting the word out there. Give the market

time and be thankful in the fact that we are further along and have more

commercial support than we did 13 years ago.

Ranting like this really achieves nothing except to show your lack of 
understanding.

-- 
Steve.


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