EXT3 problems in Enterprise Workstation 3?

[Marvin Blackburn]

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Marvin Blackburn
Systems Administrator
Glen Raven
"He's no failure.  He's not dead yet" --William Lloyd George   

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faehl, Chris [mailto:cfaehl at rightnow.com] 
> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 11:23 AM
> To: mblackburn at glenraven.com; General Red Hat Linux discussion list
> Subject: RE: EXT3 problems in Enterprise Workstation 3?
> 
> This sounds like a major bug in at least the RedHat-shipped 
> kernels. In many older versions of Netbackup, files greater 
> than 2GB could not be backed up (I believe you'd get an Error 
> 1, and the file would be skipped). This should never cause 
> massive filesystem corruption, and Netbackup shouldn't be at 
> issue here (it's just Veritas tar, and only should change 
> metadata when performing backups). Michael, do you have your 
> systems configured similarly? Marvin and Michael - what 
> kernel version are you running?
> 
> --
> Chris Faehl
> Hosting Manager, RightNow Technologies
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marvin Blackburn [mailto:mblackburn at glenraven.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 9:13 AM
> To: Faehl, Chris; 'General Red Hat Linux discussion list'
> Subject: RE: EXT3 problems in Enterprise Workstation 3?
> 
> 
> We are using veritas backup and we use ext3 for all filesystems.
> Our backups would die at about the same place.  The last file 
> Being backed up appeared to be a file that warnings would be generated
> on.
> 
> I have the filesize limit set to 2 gb, and this file would appear to
> Hit the limit.  Veritas would complain that it could not back 
> this file
> up.
> We put in a script that cleans the file every night and have 
> not had the
> problem since.
> 
> I did not replace the disks as there was not enough evidence to show
> that it
> was the problem
> 
> ------------------
> Marvin Blackburn
> Systems Administrator
> Glen Raven
> "He's no failure.  He's not dead yet" --William Lloyd George   
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Faehl, Chris [mailto:cfaehl at rightnow.com] 
> > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 11:00 AM
> > To: mblackburn at glenraven.com; General Red Hat Linux discussion list
> > Subject: RE: EXT3 problems in Enterprise Workstation 3?
> > 
> > What are you using to perform backups? We're running 
> > PowerEdge 1750s, 2650s, and 6650s using RHEL 3 ES rather than 
> > WS, and have not seen this issue using Veritas NetBackup. Are 
> > you using any ext3 options on root?
> > It sounds like you're experiencing a batch of bad RAID cards 
> > (or as Marvin indicated, maybe a bad batch of disks?)
> > 
> > --
> > Chris Faehl
> > Hosting Manager, RightNow Technologies
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com
> > [mailto:redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Marvin 
> Blackburn
> > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 6:05 AM
> > To: 'General Red Hat Linux discussion list'
> > Subject: RE: EXT3 problems in Enterprise Workstation 3?
> > 
> > 
> > We have had some strange problems during backups also.
> > The file system starts reporting errors and the system hangs.  
> > A reboot fixes this.
> > 
> > We have had this problem on 2 dell 2650's.  There answer was 
> > to replace All the disks in the system with another make.
> > 
> > They really don't have a clue as to what is happening.
> > 
> > ------------------
> > Marvin Blackburn
> > Systems Administrator
> > Glen Raven
> > "He's no failure.  He's not dead yet" --William Lloyd George   
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com
> > > [mailto:redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of 
> > Michael Halligan
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 9:21 PM
> > > To: redhat-list at redhat.com
> > > Subject: EXT3 problems in Enterprise Workstation 3?
> > > 
> > > I've had about three servers in the past week lose their root 
> > > partitions during nightly backup.. It only loses the root 
> > partition, 
> > > and it's rather strange. It doesn't necessarily lose the 
> > data in the 
> > > root partition, but it might as well, since fsck ends up 
> > deleting all 
> > > the inodes.  These are all Dell PowerEdge 1750s with two 
> > mirrored 36GB 
> > > scsi drives on Dell's Perc/4I card.
> > >  
> > > I've given up trying to figure out who to talk to at dell for the 
> > > worthless support we purchased on these was hoping maybe 
> > somebody else 
> > > was  running into this? I've dug through ERRATA and 
> haven't seen any
> > > ext3 bugs, but at this point I'm unsure what to do.  The hardware 
> > > seems fine, but I won't rule out the possibility that these 
> > raid cards 
> > > suck.
> > >  
> > > Michael T. Halligan
> > > --------------------
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> > > 415-615-1160
> > >  
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