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I'd like to apologize to EVERYONE .... if even one of you thinks that this was intended to be a flame!

This was nothing but COMMENTARY on an attitude that is prevalent among people who hold support knowledge when approached by people who need help. I'm not immune myself -- when one of my end users calls and asks how to delete all clients East of the Mississippi, I ALSO take a moment to ask what it's about. I just take a split second to try to remind myself that I design the software, I don't dictate who uses it or for what purpose. It was just a commentary about something we all give into once in a while and nothing more.

(Parenthetically, if anyone actually thought what I wrote was an actual FLAME .... all I can say is "Man, you need to unplug and get OUT a bit more! :)" )





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Today's Topics:

   1. partition changing (Anze Vidmar)
   2. RE: partition changing (Northrup, Wilson)
   3. RE: Commentary on the seven words (Shekhar Dhotre)
   4. RE: partition changing (Shekhar Dhotre)
   5. Wield message on log file (Redhat AS 4)?? (mcclnx mcc)
   6. bad RAM chip cause DELL 2650 continue crash (mcclnx mcc)
   7. RE: Wield message on log file (Redhat AS 4)?? (Shekhar Dhotre)
   8. Re: Wield message on log file (Redhat AS 4)??
      (Manuel Arostegui Ramirez)
   9. Re: Wield message on log file (Redhat AS 4)?? (Matt Domsch)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:36:56 +0200
From: Anze Vidmar <anzevi gmail com>
Subject: partition changing
To: redhat-list <redhat-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1156768616 4312 21 camel anzi home local>
Content-Type: text/plain

hello my guru friends :)

On a web hosting server we have silly partitioning like this:

[anze yokohama ~]$ df -h
Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1             6.7G  4.4G  2.0G  69% /
/dev/sda2         150G  1G  149G  1% /home
/dev/sda4           18G  17G   1G  97% /var

(don't ask, I wasn't designing this :)

So, I would like to swap partition /home with /var, because /var
partition (where all the web hosting files are saved) are running out of
disk space. The partition system id on both partitions is Linux. In
theory this is no problem. But I'm not sure if this is safe to do while
in runlevel 3 (the server is in another country and i don't have a
chance to go there to boot into single mode for maintaining).

So, the only way would be:

- stop the Internet/database services (at least this can be done) on the
server
- backup /var and /home partitions in *.tar file (to keep permissions)
- unmount the /var and /home partitions
- edit the /etc/fstab file to correct mount point
- mount the new /var partition and extract the backup tar file there
- mount the /home partition and extract the backup tar file there
- cross my fingers and hope not to get burned :-/

Of course I would clean the two partitions before restoring backup files
on them. Is this method acceptable?
Thank you,

--
Anze Vidmar <anzevi gmail com>



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:55:59 -0400
From: "Northrup, Wilson" <wilson_northrup merck com>
Subject: RE: partition changing
To: "'General Red Hat Linux discussion list'"
<redhat-list redhat com>, "'redhat-list'" <redhat-list redhat com>
Message-ID:
        <DBA68BCB137F86449139FDB06E59113CFC9F91 usctmx1114 merck com>
Content-Type: text/plain

I guess you could copy the files in /var/www to /home/www, and confirm they
are copied correctly.  Once that is done you could delete the files in
/var/www and symlink to /home/www right away, or run for a week with the
symlink, and then delete the files after that time.

In any case, make a backup and check to ensure it is a good backup before
you start.





wilson


 -----Original Message-----
From:   Anze Vidmar [mailto:anzevi gmail com]
Sent:   Monday, August 28, 2006 08:37 AM Eastern Standard Time
To:     redhat-list
Subject:        partition changing

hello my guru friends :)

On a web hosting server we have silly partitioning like this:

[anze yokohama ~]$ df -h
Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1             6.7G  4.4G  2.0G  69% /
/dev/sda2         150G  1G  149G  1% /home
/dev/sda4           18G  17G   1G  97% /var

(don't ask, I wasn't designing this :)

So, I would like to swap partition /home with /var, because /var
partition (where all the web hosting files are saved) are running out of
disk space. The partition system id on both partitions is Linux. In
theory this is no problem. But I'm not sure if this is safe to do while
in runlevel 3 (the server is in another country and i don't have a
chance to go there to boot into single mode for maintaining).

So, the only way would be:

- stop the Internet/database services (at least this can be done) on the
server
- backup /var and /home partitions in *.tar file (to keep permissions)
- unmount the /var and /home partitions
- edit the /etc/fstab file to correct mount point
- mount the new /var partition and extract the backup tar file there
- mount the /home partition and extract the backup tar file there
- cross my fingers and hope not to get burned :-/

Of course I would clean the two partitions before restoring backup files
on them. Is this method acceptable?
Thank you,

--
Anze Vidmar <anzevi gmail com>

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:37:43 -0400
From: "Shekhar Dhotre" <sdhotre Cedardoc com>
Subject: RE: Commentary on the seven words
To: "General Red Hat Linux discussion list" <redhat-list redhat com>
Message-ID:
        <728BB500F390334196448BD09D34254E0A3F37 atl0-exchdb01 cedardoc com>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

>>guy who started the flame :-)

  I think I made this list  alive :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: redhat-list-bounces redhat com [mailto:redhat-list-bounces redhat com] On Behalf Of Manuel Arostegui Ramirez
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 5:21 AM
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
Subject: Re: Commentary on the seven words

El Viernes, 25 de Agosto de 2006 20:10, darrel barton escribió:

>
> So when a guy writes to ask about how to enable root login from telnet,
> can't someone just say "I hope you know that's not as secure as ssh -- but
> here's how you enable that ...... ?

That's exactly what I did. Look at this:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-list/2006-August/msg00216.html


If you read whole thread you'll see that the one who asked about how to enable
root login via telnet is not the same guy who started the flame :-)

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:40:34 -0400
From: "Shekhar Dhotre" <sdhotre Cedardoc com>
Subject: RE: partition changing
To: "General Red Hat Linux discussion list" <redhat-list redhat com>
Message-ID:
        <728BB500F390334196448BD09D34254E0A3F3A atl0-exchdb01 cedardoc com>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

>>Is this method acceptable?

   Test the restore of tar backups or any other backups ,before you
clean out the partitions. I have successfully completed 4 DR test,and my
experience tells me always test your backups by restoring to test
machines .
(2 sets of backups)

-----Original Message-----
From: redhat-list-bounces redhat com
[mailto:redhat-list-bounces redhat com] On Behalf Of Anze Vidmar
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:37 AM
To: redhat-list
Subject: partition changing

hello my guru friends :)

On a web hosting server we have silly partitioning like this:

[anze yokohama ~]$ df -h
Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1             6.7G  4.4G  2.0G  69% /
/dev/sda2         150G  1G  149G  1% /home
/dev/sda4           18G  17G   1G  97% /var

(don't ask, I wasn't designing this :)

So, I would like to swap partition /home with /var, because /var
partition (where all the web hosting files are saved) are running out of
disk space. The partition system id on both partitions is Linux. In
theory this is no problem. But I'm not sure if this is safe to do while
in runlevel 3 (the server is in another country and i don't have a
chance to go there to boot into single mode for maintaining).

So, the only way would be:

- stop the Internet/database services (at least this can be done) on the
server
- backup /var and /home partitions in *.tar file (to keep permissions)
- unmount the /var and /home partitions
- edit the /etc/fstab file to correct mount point
- mount the new /var partition and extract the backup tar file there
- mount the /home partition and extract the backup tar file there
- cross my fingers and hope not to get burned :-/

Of course I would clean the two partitions before restoring backup files
on them. Is this method acceptable?
Thank you,

--
Anze Vidmar <anzevi gmail com>

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:47:06 +0800 (CST)
From: mcclnx mcc <mcclnx yahoo com tw>
Subject: Wield message on log file (Redhat AS 4)??
To: nahant-list redhat com, as <redhat-list redhat com>,
        linux-poweredge dell com
Message-ID: <20060828134706 18988 qmail web18615 mail tpe yahoo com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5

We have Redhat AS4.3 on DELL 6800 server.  I checked
/var/log/messages anf found message:

   Aug 28 04:03:42 ORA01 init: Trying to re-exec init

Any one what is this mean?

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:51:31 +0800 (CST)
From: mcclnx mcc <mcclnx yahoo com tw>
Subject: bad RAM chip cause DELL 2650 continue crash
To: linux-poweredge dell com, as <redhat-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <20060828135131 99032 qmail web18606 mail tpe yahoo com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5

We have DELL 2650 server with Redhat AS 3.4 installed
on it.  Recently I found following messages on log
file and server continue crash .

Aug 26 10:10:49 ORA1 kernel: Uhhuh. NMI received.
Dazed and confused, but trying to continue
Aug 26 10:10:49 ORA1 kernel: You probably have a
hardware problem with your RAM chips

I replace all RAM on DELL 2650, but it still continue
happen.

Anyone know what wrong it is?

Thanks.

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:52:06 -0400
From: "Shekhar Dhotre" <sdhotre Cedardoc com>
Subject: RE: Wield message on log file (Redhat AS 4)??
To: "General Red Hat Linux discussion list" <redhat-list redhat com>,
        <nahant-list redhat com>, <linux-poweredge dell com>
Message-ID:
        <728BB500F390334196448BD09D34254E0A3F3D atl0-exchdb01 cedardoc com>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="gb2312"

Sounds as if someone/something (cron.daily -> prelink?) with root
permissions simply issued 'init u'.

Hint:
man init


It`s cut and paste!

-----Original Message-----
From: redhat-list-bounces redhat com [mailto:redhat-list-bounces redhat com] On Behalf Of mcclnx mcc
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 9:47 AM
To: nahant-list redhat com; as; linux-poweredge dell com
Subject: Wield message on log file (Redhat AS 4)??

We have Redhat AS4.3 on DELL 6800 server.  I checked
/var/log/messages anf found message:

   Aug 28 04:03:42 ORA01 init: Trying to re-exec init

Any one what is this mean?

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:05:23 +0200
From: Manuel Arostegui Ramirez <manuel todo-linux com>
Subject: Re: Wield message on log file (Redhat AS 4)??
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <200608281605 23605 manuel todo-linux com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"

El Lunes, 28 de Agosto de 2006 15:47, mcclnx mcc escribió:
> We have Redhat AS4.3 on DELL 6800 server.  I checked
> /var/log/messages anf found message:
>
>    Aug 28 04:03:42 ORA01 init: Trying to re-exec init
>
> Any one what is this mean?
>

It's due to cron.daily and prelink.
Try to disable prelinking

Hope that helps

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be used for urgent or sensitive issues.



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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:05:43 -0500
From: Matt Domsch <Matt_Domsch dell com>
Subject: Re: Wield message on log file (Redhat AS 4)??
To: mcclnx mcc <mcclnx yahoo com tw>
Cc: nahant-list redhat com, as <redhat-list redhat com>,
        linux-poweredge dell com
Message-ID: <20060828140542 GD15032 lists us dell com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 09:47:06PM +0800, mcclnx mcc wrote:
> We have Redhat AS4.3 on DELL 6800 server.  I checked
> /var/log/messages anf found message:
>
>    Aug 28 04:03:42 ORA01 init: Trying to re-exec init
>
> Any one what is this mean?

Generally that you ran up2date and it updated glibc.

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Software Architect
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