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Re: RHCE certification



Well they may not be all that, but it does have a lot more rigor than
say an MCSE. I thought the RHCE exam was pretty tough because of the
written and practicals portion. I have actually considered it just
because of the practical side would tend to be more credible than just a
cram jam.

I am not a sysadmin and do not do this stuff everyday, but would still
like the cred just because I do work on it from an integration
perspective.

P.

On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 07:59 -0700, Troy wrote:
> Any manager that doesn't know the difference between a good sysadmin  
> and one with a bunch of certificates, is a manager you don't want to  
> work for.
> 
> Having said that, if they're paying for it, you might as well take it.  
> My manager wanted me to take it, and it was the most ridiculous thing  
> I've ever seen. Now, anyone who boasts about the fact that they are  
> RHCE certified, gets put into a very special category in my book.
> 
> 
> On Aug 22, 2008, at 6:24 AM, hike wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:38 AM, mark <m roth2006 rcn com> wrote:
> >
> >> Johan Booysen wrote:
> >>> My employer wants me to look into gaining the RHCE certification.
> >> <snip>
> >> Only if your employer is paying. Otherwise, well, we've had  
> >> discussions
> >> here
> >> before, and it's not more important than actually knowing/learning  
> >> the job
> >> on
> >> your own (books/co-workers/google HOWTOs/etc).
> >>
> >>       mark
> >>
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> >
> >
> > MGRS are generally NOT technical.
> > MGRS use certification, training classes as a way to judge their  
> > work-force.
> >
> > Certifications help MGRS within the business organization whether  
> > they are
> > looking for status (I've got all RHCEs on my staff), or quick  
> > approval (all
> > the engineers recommend), or avoiding nitpicking people (the RHCE  
> > all said
> > this is the way to go).
> >
> > If you have certification, you help your MGR get her/his job  
> > accomplished!
> >
> > Certs may mean nothing to a sysadmin but certs are very important to  
> > your
> > MGR.
> > Don't you want to help your MGR accomplish his task, show support for
> > her/him, etc.?
> >
> > Certs are a game that sysadmin canNOT afford to skip.
> >
> > On the plus side, certs will get you jobs and more money.
> > My Solaris sysadmin Certification brings in at least $10K more a  
> > year.  At
> > my site, I am the highest paid sysadmin because of my certs (a college
> > degree puts me in the senior category; the certs make me the biggest
> > earner).  The real UNIX guru, with 5-10 more years of experience and  
> > a much
> > larger skill set, dreams of making what I make.   (I recommended him  
> > for my
> > current position; my employer picked little, old, certified me.)
> >
> > Skipping certs is a fool's game!
> >
> >
> > I paid for my own RHCT training--class, hotel, car, meals, and took  
> > a week
> > without pay.  Passed the RHCT test.  Put in on my company's website  
> > form.
> > Now I am recognized as certified.
> >
> > If you need a cert, get it; if you have to pay for it, get it.  It  
> > is your
> > career not your MGR's or your employer's career.  Just like college,  
> > once
> > you get your bachelor's, you don't have to get it again and it is a
> > constatnt source of money.  (The $10K it cost me for college has  
> > provided
> > $100Ks for me.  Currently, it pays about $10K per year that similarily
> > skilled sysadmins without a backelor's don't get.)
> >
> > Being penny wise and pound foolish is also a fool's game!
> >
> > Fools give bad advice.
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