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Re: RHCE certification

Here's a story from the class I took, RH300. One of the exercises was to grow a filesystem that had a couple files in it already. I couldn't remember the exact syntax right away, so I tar'd everything up, created a new filesystem, and moved everything back. As we were all talking about the test, I mentioned that I froze on that part and just hacked around it with tar. One of the guys, who also passed the test, asked me what tar was.

On Aug 22, 2008, at 8:29 AM, Paul Whitney wrote:

Well they may not be all that, but it does have a lot more rigor than
say an MCSE. I thought the RHCE exam was pretty tough because of the
written and practicals portion. I have actually considered it just
because of the practical side would tend to be more credible than just a
cram jam.

I am not a sysadmin and do not do this stuff everyday, but would still
like the cred just because I do work on it from an integration


On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 07:59 -0700, Troy wrote:
Any manager that doesn't know the difference between a good sysadmin
and one with a bunch of certificates, is a manager you don't want to
work for.

Having said that, if they're paying for it, you might as well take it.
My manager wanted me to take it, and it was the most ridiculous thing
I've ever seen. Now, anyone who boasts about the fact that they are
RHCE certified, gets put into a very special category in my book.

On Aug 22, 2008, at 6:24 AM, hike wrote:

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:38 AM, mark <m roth2006 rcn com> wrote:

Johan Booysen wrote:
My employer wants me to look into gaining the RHCE certification.
Only if your employer is paying. Otherwise, well, we've had
before, and it's not more important than actually knowing/learning
the job
your own (books/co-workers/google HOWTOs/etc).


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MGRS are generally NOT technical.
MGRS use certification, training classes as a way to judge their

Certifications help MGRS within the business organization whether
they are
looking for status (I've got all RHCEs on my staff), or quick
approval (all
the engineers recommend), or avoiding nitpicking people (the RHCE
all said
this is the way to go).

If you have certification, you help your MGR get her/his job

Certs may mean nothing to a sysadmin but certs are very important to
Don't you want to help your MGR accomplish his task, show support for
her/him, etc.?

Certs are a game that sysadmin canNOT afford to skip.

On the plus side, certs will get you jobs and more money.
My Solaris sysadmin Certification brings in at least $10K more a
year.  At
my site, I am the highest paid sysadmin because of my certs (a college
degree puts me in the senior category; the certs make me the biggest
earner).  The real UNIX guru, with 5-10 more years of experience and
a much
larger skill set, dreams of making what I make.   (I recommended him
for my
current position; my employer picked little, old, certified me.)

Skipping certs is a fool's game!

I paid for my own RHCT training--class, hotel, car, meals, and took
a week
without pay.  Passed the RHCT test.  Put in on my company's website
Now I am recognized as certified.

If you need a cert, get it; if you have to pay for it, get it.  It
is your
career not your MGR's or your employer's career.  Just like college,
you get your bachelor's, you don't have to get it again and it is a
constatnt source of money.  (The $10K it cost me for college has
$100Ks for me. Currently, it pays about $10K per year that similarily
skilled sysadmins without a backelor's don't get.)

Being penny wise and pound foolish is also a fool's game!

Fools give bad advice.
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