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Re: RHCE certification

It is an awesome can of worms. Love the environment and get encouraged to pursue my RHCE. Nevermind the beers I have had this afternoon.  I want my RHCE 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen <johan matrix-data co uk>

Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:22:37 
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list<redhat-list redhat com>
Subject: RE: RHCE certification

Have I opened up a can of worms, or what?

Thanks for all your replies.  I think in my case getting certified will
have 3 benefits.  One is that you can become stagnant and use the
operating sytem in a fairly limited way, where the danger is that one
starts doing things the "company way" as opposed to maybe the "correct
way" or even the "best way" - often because you simply don't know any
better any more.  Secondly, for the sake of appearances it's beneficial
when we can tell our clients that we have MCSEs or graduates or RHCEs on
board - it does tend to lend more credibility to an organization.  And
thirdly it's a case of personal development and broadening your skill
set in a quantifiable way.  If you want to prove yourself, then you have
to be prepared to play the game according to the rules, and I think
that's true for any formal qualification - school, college, university,
certification...they set a standard and you can either just do enough to
scrape by or you can approach the qualifation process as a learning
experience in itself.  The least you can hope for is that that process
will give you a decent baseline.

And yep, certification isn't the be-all and end-all, but that applies to
all spheres of life.  But it has its place in the bigger scheme of

Anyway - I'm on holiday.  Just couldn't resist checking up on this

-----Original Message-----
From: redhat-list-bounces redhat com
[mailto:redhat-list-bounces redhat com] On Behalf Of Kevin Krieser
Sent: 23 August 2008 21:48
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
Subject: Re: RHCE certification

On Aug 23, 2008, at 2:17 PM, Stephen Carville wrote:

> On Friday 22 August 2008 5:48 am, Johan Booysen wrote:
>> Yep they will be paying.  I see what you mean and of course it's  
>> true in
>> terms of having a piece of paper as opposed to actually being able  
>> to do
>> this or that.
>> Having said that, people over here also like the idea of things being
>> quantifiable, including certifications and suchlike.  So they're
>> investing in staff training, which I think is great.
> Something that often gets overlooked in these discussions is that  
> certain
> contractors insist on certain certifications.  This is especially  
> true of the
> US government.   Several years ago I was competing with at least two  
> Solaris
> admins I knew were better qualified than me at that time.  Despite  
> that, I
> was chosen because I have a BS degree in Telecommunications and the  
> other two
> guys didn't have any degrees.  The contract required so many  
> Bachelor degrees
> so many Masters degrees and a couple three Phd's had to be on the  
> project.
> Go figger...
> It's not just for governments either.  Several times in my career  
> I've had to
> sign a release so my employer could attach evidence of my  
> "qualifications" to
> a bid.  It may sound silly -- it does to me -- but that RHCE may  
> someday make
> the difference between your employer getting a contract or not.

I may have to get an additional certification for work in the next  
year, but haven't really researched which one yet.  Top 2 options  
mentioned (due to my Linux experience) are RHCE or Linux+.  Either one  
will probably suffice for my credentials.  MSCE was mentioned, but I  
figure that that would be better for the coworker who has to work with  


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