Reg : RHEL 5.0 Installatio
Geofrey Rainey
Geofrey.Rainey at tvnz.co.nz
Wed May 6 04:53:23 UTC 2009
Interesting, I thought we would have seen something in the output of
ifconfig. Oh well, good to know.
-----Original Message-----
From: redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com
[mailto:redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Ramakrishnan
Seshadhri
Sent: Tuesday, 5 May 2009 9:41 p.m.
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
Subject: Re: Reg : RHEL 5.0 Installatio
Hi,
I just checked with the machine what was the problem and then I found
the
below :
# more /proc/net/bonding/bond0
Ethernet Channel Bonding Driver: v3.1.2 (January 20, 2007)
Bonding Mode: fault-tolerance (active-backup)
Primary Slave: eth0
Currently Active Slave: eth0
MII Status: up
MII Polling Interval (ms): 0
Up Delay (ms): 0
Down Delay (ms): 0
ARP Polling Interval (ms): 200
ARP IP target/s (n.n.n.n form): XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
Slave Interface: eth0
MII Status: down
Link Failure Count: 1161
Permanent HW addr: XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
Slave Interface: eth1
MII Status: up
Link Failure Count: 0
Permanent HW addr: XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
eth0 is always down. think there is a hardware problem. Will check it
up.
Ram.S
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 5:41 PM, karthikeyan
<karthik_arnold1 at yahoo.com>wrote:
> Hi Ram
>
> Try the Fault Tolerant mode in bonding and check if u have any issues.
>
> edit the modprobe.conf and change the mode to mode 1
>
> alias bond0 bonding
> options bond0 mode=1 miimon=100
>
> and try restarting the machine check the machine .
>
> I had faced a similar issue where the applications will be extremely
slow
> when we have mode 0 in bonding. this happens bcos some switches doesnt
work
> properly with load balancing mode 0 .
>
> Regards
> karthik
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 22:39:48 +1200
> From: "Geofrey Rainey" <Geofrey.Rainey at tvnz.co.nz>
> Subject: RE: Reg : RHEL 5.0 Installatio
> To: "General Red Hat Linux discussion list" <redhat-list at redhat.com>
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> You might have a faulty piece of hardware somewhere..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com
> [mailto:redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Ramakrishnan
> Seshadhri
> Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 10:37 p.m.
> To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
> Subject: Re: Reg : RHEL 5.0 Installatio
>
> Yes,
>
> I am aware of that. I believe so far I haven't posted any sensitive
> data.
> (Ip address is anyway should be given)
> I will try the test. Actually last time I was not able to connect at
> all.
> After a reboot I was able to connect. But still load is 2.8+.
>
> Ram
>
> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Geofrey Rainey
> <Geofrey.Rainey at tvnz.co.nz>wrote:
>
> > Weird, you shouldn't be getting any packet loss at all. I wonder if
> > there's
> > Some faulty network device? Try these tests:
> >
> > 1. Ping from yourself to yourself; ping localhost, and ping the
proper
> > qualified domain name - do you get any drops then?
> >
> > 2. Ping from another host on the same subnet, do you get any drops
> then?
> >
> > 3. ping from a host on a different subnet.
> >
> > (also, in future be weary of transmitting lots of information about
> your
> > servers to a mailing list, your info might be posted on the internet
-
> > just be mindful of that).
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com
> > [mailto:redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Ramakrishnan
> > Seshadhri
> > Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 10:25 p.m.
> > To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
> > Subject: Re: Reg : RHEL 5.0 Installatio
> >
> > Yes during ping, packets are dropped. It gives like the one below
> >
> > [root at dbbld u02]# ping dbbld.domain.com
> > PING appsbld.pharmatrade.pharmatrade.com (132.1.1.126) 56(84) bytes
of
> > data.
> > 64 bytes from dbbld.domain.com (132.1.1.126): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64
> > time=0.122
> > ms
> > 64 bytes from dbbld.domain.com (132.1.1.126): icmp_seq=3 ttl=64
> > time=0.090
> > ms
> > 64 bytes from dbbld.domain.com (132.1.1.126): icmp_seq=4 ttl=64
> > time=0.099
> > ms
> > 64 bytes from dbbld.domain.com (132.1.1.126): icmp_seq=5 ttl=64
> > time=0.091
> > ms
> > 64 bytes from dbbld.domain.com (132.1.1.126): icmp_seq=6 ttl=64
> > time=0.095
> > ms
> >
> > --- dbbld.domain.com ping statistics ---
> > 6 packets transmitted, 5 received, 16% packet loss, time 5000ms
> > rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.090/0.099/0.122/0.014 ms
> >
> > I have all host entries in place and servers registered in DNS
> >
> > Here is the output of "sar -q"
> >
> > [root at dbbld u02]# sar -q
> > Linux 2.6.18-53.el5PAE (dbbld) 05/03/2009
> >
> > 09:50:01 AM runq-sz plist-sz ldavg-1 ldavg-5 ldavg-15
> > 10:00:01 AM 0 189 0.12 0.08 0.06
> > 10:10:01 AM 0 185 0.01 0.04 0.04
> > 10:20:01 AM 0 183 0.09 0.05 0.02
> > 10:30:01 AM 0 183 0.04 0.05 0.00
> > 10:40:01 AM 0 185 0.05 0.06 0.00
> > Average: 0 185 0.06 0.06 0.02
> >
> > 10:46:40 AM LINUX RESTART
> >
> > 10:54:21 AM LINUX RESTART
> >
> > 11:00:01 AM runq-sz plist-sz ldavg-1 ldavg-5 ldavg-15
> > 11:10:01 AM 0 173 0.03 0.12 0.21
> > Average: 0 173 0.03 0.12 0.21
> >
> > 11:22:15 AM LINUX RESTART
> >
> > 11:38:03 AM LINUX RESTART
> >
> > 11:40:01 AM runq-sz plist-sz ldavg-1 ldavg-5 ldavg-15
> > 11:50:01 AM 0 189 0.61 0.72 0.53
> > Average: 0 189 0.61 0.72 0.53
> >
> > 11:59:06 AM LINUX RESTART
> >
> > 12:00:02 PM runq-sz plist-sz ldavg-1 ldavg-5 ldavg-15
> > 12:10:01 PM 0 189 0.24 1.20 0.96
> > 12:20:01 PM 0 188 0.09 0.22 0.52
> > 12:30:01 PM 0 188 0.04 0.06 0.28
> > 12:40:01 PM 0 195 3.19 1.54 0.83
> > 12:50:01 PM 0 191 2.69 1.37 0.96
> > 01:00:02 PM 0 192 0.15 0.73 0.82
> > Average: 0 190 1.07 0.85 0.73
> >
> > 01:04:33 PM LINUX RESTART
> >
> > 01:10:01 PM runq-sz plist-sz ldavg-1 ldavg-5 ldavg-15
> > 01:20:01 PM 0 186 2.66 2.47 1.67
> > 01:30:01 PM 0 176 2.58 2.64 2.12
> > Average: 0 181 2.62 2.56 1.90
> >
> > 01:55:25 PM LINUX RESTART
> >
> > 02:00:01 PM runq-sz plist-sz ldavg-1 ldavg-5 ldavg-15
> > 02:10:01 PM 0 172 1.84 1.75 1.16
> > 02:20:01 PM 0 171 1.84 1.84 1.47
> > Average: 0 172 1.84 1.79 1.31
> >
> >
> > Ram
> >
> > On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Geofrey Rainey
> > <Geofrey.Rainey at tvnz.co.nz>wrote:
> >
> > > That logical volume for swap is pretty weird, no point in having
> that
> > > there I think, but not to worry for the moment, I don't think it
> would
> > > cause issues like you're experiencing.
> > >
> > > What's the output of "sar -q".
> > >
> > > Also, if you ping the server any other time does it always drop
> > packets?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com
> > > [mailto:redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Ramakrishnan
> > > Seshadhri
> > > Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 10:13 p.m.
> > > To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
> > > Subject: Re: Reg : RHEL 5.0 Installatio
> > >
> > > Here is the output for swapon -s
> > >
> > > [root at dbbld ~]# swapon -s
> > > Filename Type Size
Used
> > > Priority
> > > /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol01 partition 950264 0
> > > -1
> > > /dev/sda5 partition 9438148 0
> > > -2
> > >
> > >
> > > Ram
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Geofrey Rainey
> > > <Geofrey.Rainey at tvnz.co.nz>wrote:
> > >
> > > > I wouldn't worry about that zombie. What about my earlier
question
> > > about
> > > > The output of swapon -s?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com
> > > > [mailto:redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of
Ramakrishnan
> > > > Seshadhri
> > > > Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 10:03 p.m.
> > > > To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
> > > > Subject: Re: Reg : RHEL 5.0 Installatio
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I can see that there is a Zonbie
> > > >
> > > > [root at dbbld etc]# ps -ef | grep ifup-eth
> > > > root 14335 3476 1 14:02 ? 00:00:00 [ifup-eth]
> <defunct>
> > > > root 14362 6988 0 14:02 pts/2 00:00:00 grep ifup-eth
> > > >
> > > > what is this process. I am not able to kill this.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ram.S
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Ramakrishnan Seshadhri <
> > > > ramakrishnan42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is the ifconfig report below
> > > > >
> > > > > [root at dbbld ~]# ifconfig
> > > > > bond0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:21:5E:2D:90:5E
> > > > > inet addr:132.1.1.125 Bcast:132.1.255.255
> > > Mask:255.255.0.0
> > > > > inet6 addr: fe80::221:5eff:fe2d:905e/64 Scope:Link
> > > > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MASTER MULTICAST MTU:1500
> > Metric:1
> > > > > RX packets:1150 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
frame:0
> > > > > TX packets:961 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
carrier:0
> > > > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
> > > > > RX bytes:93435 (91.2 KiB) TX bytes:87481 (85.4 KiB)
> > > > >
> > > > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:21:5E:2D:90:5E
> > > > > inet6 addr: fe80::221:5eff:fe2d:905e/64 Scope:Link
> > > > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING SLAVE MULTICAST MTU:1500
> Metric:1
> > > > > RX packets:1150 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
frame:0
> > > > > TX packets:961 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
carrier:0
> > > > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> > > > > RX bytes:93435 (91.2 KiB) TX bytes:87481 (85.4 KiB)
> > > > > Interrupt:114 Memory:da000000-da012100
> > > > >
> > > > > eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:21:5E:2D:90:60
> > > > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING SLAVE MULTICAST MTU:1500
> Metric:1
> > > > > RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> > > > > TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> > > > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> > > > > RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
> > > > > Interrupt:82 Memory:d8000000-d8012100
> > > > >
> > > > > lo Link encap:Local Loopback
> > > > > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
> > > > > inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
> > > > > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
> > > > > RX packets:2776 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
frame:0
> > > > > TX packets:2776 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
> carrier:0
> > > > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
> > > > > RX bytes:3321472 (3.1 MiB) TX bytes:3321472 (3.1
MiB)
> > > > >
> > > > > the collision field is zero. But the TX is bytes:87481. There
> are
> > > Two
> > > > NIC
> > > > > configured to the Virtual IP bond0. Is there a problem there.
> > > > > Is there a log while where I could check the errors.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ram
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Geofrey Rainey
> > > > <Geofrey.Rainey at tvnz.co.nz>wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> 1. look in the output of ifconfig and you'll see a
"collisions"
> > > field
> > > > >> which should have a value of 0.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2. look at the output of either "ethtool <interface>", or
> > mii-tool
> > > > >> <interface>, and you will see what the port speed is. This
must
> > > match
> > > > >> the port speed of your switch (your network guys will tell
you
> if
> > > the
> > > > >> switch is
> > > > >> 100Mb or 1000Mb etc).
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Look for output like this which says the interface is running
> at
> > > > >> 100Mb/s. This is bad if you're connected to a 1000Mb switch.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
> > > > >> Speed: 100Mb/s
> > > > >> Duplex: Full
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com
> > > > >> [mailto:redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of
> Ramakrishnan
> > > > >> Seshadhri
> > > > >> Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 9:30 p.m.
> > > > >> To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
> > > > >> Subject: Re: Reg : RHEL 5.0 Installatio
> > > > >>
> > > > >> can you please brief how to check that.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ram.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Geofrey Rainey
> > > > >> <Geofrey.Rainey at tvnz.co.nz>wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Look in "ifconfig", are there any collisions on the
> interface?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Also, perhaps the switch hasn't properly negotiated the
speed
> > > with
> > > > >> > Your interface?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> > From: redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com
> > > > >> > [mailto:redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of
> > Ramakrishnan
> > > > >> > Seshadhri
> > > > >> > Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 9:18 p.m.
> > > > >> > To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
> > > > >> > Subject: Re: Reg : RHEL 5.0 Installatio
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Actually the problem is here. Once I reboot the server the
> load
> > > is
> > > > >> > around
> > > > >> > 2.8 and I am not able to ping the server (All firewalls are
> > > turned
> > > > >> off).
> > > > >> > After sometime I am able to telnet or ping the server.
While
> > > > pinging
> > > > >> it
> > > > >> > drops 50% of packets.
> > > > >> > both telnet and ssh services are enabled.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Ram
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Geofrey Rainey
> > > > >> > <Geofrey.Rainey at tvnz.co.nz>wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > Also, what about the outut of the "sar" command without
any
> > > > >> arguments?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> > > From: redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com
> > > > >> > > [mailto:redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Ramakrishnan
> > > > >> > > Seshadhri
> > > > >> > > Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 9:01 p.m.
> > > > >> > > To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
> > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Reg : RHEL 5.0 Installatio
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Hi,
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Thanks for the response : Here is my output of "sar -r"
> > command
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Linux 2.6.18-53.el5PAE (dbbld) 05/03/2009
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > 09:50:01 AM kbmemfree kbmemused %memused kbbuffers
> kbcached
> > > > >> > kbswpfree
> > > > >> > > kbswpused %swpused kbswpcad
> > > > >> > > 10:00:01 AM 7400868 910644 10.96 141164
> 590936
> > > > >> > > 10388412 0 0.00 0
> > > > >> > > 10:10:01 AM 7394136 917376 11.04 142056
> 597464
> > > > >> > > 10388412 0 0.00 0
> > > > >> > > 10:20:01 AM 7394756 916756 11.03 142260
> 597464
> > > > >> > > 10388412 0 0.00 0
> > > > >> > > 10:30:01 AM 7394632 916880 11.03 142420
> 597468
> > > > >> > > 10388412 0 0.00 0
> > > > >> > > 10:40:01 AM 7394012 917500 11.04 142668
> 597488
> > > > >> > > 10388412 0 0.00 0
> > > > >> > > Average: 7395681 915831 11.02 142114
> 596164
> > > > >> > > 10388412 0 0.00 0
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > 10:46:40 AM LINUX RESTART
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > 10:54:21 AM LINUX RESTART
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > 11:00:01 AM kbmemfree kbmemused %memused kbbuffers
> kbcached
> > > > >> > kbswpfree
> > > > >> > > kbswpused %swpused kbswpcad
> > > > >> > > 11:10:01 AM 7781624 529888 6.38 97864
> 300800
> > > > >> > > 10388412 0 0.00 0
> > > > >> > > Average: 7781624 529888 6.38 97864
> 300800
> > > > >> > > 10388412 0 0.00 0
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > 11:22:15 AM LINUX RESTART
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > 11:38:03 AM LINUX RESTART
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > 11:40:01 AM kbmemfree kbmemused %memused kbbuffers
> kbcached
> > > > >> > kbswpfree
> > > > >> > > kbswpused %swpused kbswpcad
> > > > >> > > 11:50:01 AM 7780860 530652 6.38 89332
> 301896
> > > > >> > > 10388412 0 0.00 0
> > > > >> > > Average: 7780860 530652 6.38 89332
> 301896
> > > > >> > > 10388412 0 0.00 0
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > 11:59:06 AM LINUX RESTART
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > 12:00:02 PM kbmemfree kbmemused %memused kbbuffers
> kbcached
> > > > >> > kbswpfree
> > > > >> > > kbswpused %swpused kbswpcad
> > > > >> > > 12:10:01 PM 7728928 582584 7.01 135368
> 303512
> > > > >> > > 10388412 0 0.00 0
> > > > >> > > 12:20:01 PM 7729052 582460 7.01 135484
> 303516
> > > > >> > > 10388412 0 0.00 0
> > > > >> > > 12:30:01 PM 7728692 582820 7.01 135904
> 303884
> > > > >> > > 10388412 0 0.00 0
> > > > >> > > 12:40:01 PM 286120 8025392 96.56 121840
> 7634772
> > > > >> > > 10388412 0 0.00 0
> > > > >> > > 12:50:01 PM 289640 8021872 96.52 50696
> 7736596
> > > > >> > > 10388408 4 0.00 4
> > > > >> > > Average: 4752486 3559026 42.82 115858
> 3256456
> > > > >> > > 10388411 1 0.00 1
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > I cant see any swap usage.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Ram
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Geofrey Rainey
> > > > >> > > <Geofrey.Rainey at tvnz.co.nz>wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > Try the following:
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > # sar -r (look at how much swap is being used)
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > # sar (is the i/o wait column high?)
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> > > > From: redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com
> > > > >> > > > [mailto:redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > Ramakrishnan
> > > > >> > > > Seshadhri
> > > > >> > > > Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 7:41 p.m.
> > > > >> > > > To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
> > > > >> > > > Subject: Reg : RHEL 5.0 Installatio
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Hi,
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > I have installed RHEL 5 on one of the servers and once
> the
> > > > server
> > > > >> > > boots
> > > > >> > > > up
> > > > >> > > > the load average is constantly at 2.8 and server is
slow.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Server is IBM blade by make .
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > 8 GB RAM
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > top command does not show any CPR intensive tasks.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > please let me know how to find out what is occupying
CPU
> > > > >> > > >
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> Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 16:25:00 +0200
> From: Erik Xavior <erikxavior80 at gmail.com>
> Subject: find tux comic picture help
> To: debian-user at lists.debian.org, redhat-list at redhat.com,
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> does anyone knows/have that comic picture of "tux" the Linux penguin
that:
>
> - has four pictures in it
> - it defines 4 "levels" of the knowledge of tux, who is "symbolizing a
> learning person"
> - the first one: tux is just a Linux "fanboy"; second: tux is working,
and
> say's: "...stupid rpm"; three: I can't remember that:D sorry; four:
tux has
> a beard, and the picture says don't mess with it.
>
> thank you, and sorry for the question, but I just can't find it on
google
> :D
> :S
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