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Re: [rhelv6-list] how to remove 'shot down' from system menu?



Alois,

That's a different situation than the one described earlier, and I agree
that you don't what users to be able to shutdown a system in that
arrangement.

Prentice

On 10/05/2011 04:43 PM, Alois Treindl wrote:
> I find it a terrible mistake by Redhat to install an unmodified GNOME
> with shutdown permission for non-root users.
> 
> We run our company server with about 10 X-terminals used by office
> staff. The server needs to run permanently, but the X-terminals are just
> used during office hours by non-technical staff.
> 
> The x-terminals use the Gnome desktop of the server via XDMCP. We have
> used this setup since many years, first with HP-UX, since eight years
> with various versions of RHEL. The server is physically remote in a
> server room.
> 
> It is an excellent solution, low maintenance, adequate performance for
> office work.
> 
> Please don't tell me we should use a local window manager on the
> x-terminals. These are horrible monsters. We like the desktop offered by
> RHEL.
> 
> Such an x-terminal  user, when he/she wants to logout and turn off the
> x-terminal, will easily make a mistake to 'shut down' the server if this
> option is offered as it is, and not even protected by the root password.
> 
> I found an article describing a solution:
> http://www.shaunrowland.com/fsync/2011/04/20/removing-shut-down-from-the-gnome-panel-in-rhel-6/
> 
> But when you read through this, you notice how complex it is. And each
> gnome update will overwrite the special configuration it is. A design
> fault by Gnome, I agree with the author.
> Redhat should not have accepted this design fault on their system.
> 
> We will switch back to KDE desktop, after using Gnome since RHEL5. KDE
> at least has no such stupid power-down by normal users. As the KDE
> konsole terminal is finally able to handle utf8 properly, including
> Asian languages with good fonts, as gnome-terminal did since a long time
> already, there is no string reason to stick with gnome now.
> 
> 
> On 10/05/2011 03:10 PM, Prentice Bisbal wrote:
>> Alois,
>>
>> If users have physical access to the systems and can hit the power
>> button or unplug the system, I strongly recommend that you leave the
>> shutdown option on the start menu. If a user is determined to
>> shutdown/reboot a computer, I would much rather they shut it down
>> gracefully by using the shutdown command than doing it harshly buy
>> holding the power button or unplugging the system, which can lead to a
>> host of other problems.
>>
>> -- 
>> Prentice
>>
>>
>> On 10/05/2011 08:49 AM, Horst Severini wrote:
>>> Hi Alois,
>>>
>>> I'm not sure there is a way to remove that, and I'm not sure it makes
>>> too
>>> much sense to look too hard for it, either, since when someone is
>>> sitting
>>> right in front of a computer, they can (a) shut it down from the
>>> login screen,
>>> or (b) press the power button or (c) unplug the power cord, so in my
>>> mind
>>> it doesn't much matter if you eliminate one way to shut it down when
>>> there are several other you can't eliminate.
>>>
>>> Just my 2c,
>>>
>>>     Horst
>>>
>>> Alois Treindl<alois astro ch>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have recently installed RHEL6 with GNOME desktop.
>>>>
>>>> In each user's menu appeasr under the entry 'System' also to item 'Shut
>>>> down'
>>>>
>>>> I would like to remove this item for all users except root.
>>>> In fact normal users can use this link to shut down the system, they
>>>> are
>>>> not asked for root password. I do not know how this can happen?
>>>> Where can I at least configure that they are asked the root password
>>>> for
>>>> shutdown?
>>>>
>>
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