From alois at astro.ch Thu Jan 8 10:51:26 2015 From: alois at astro.ch (Alois Treindl) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 11:51:26 +0100 Subject: [rhelv6-list] Latest Version of Red Hat Software Collections Now Available In-Reply-To: <545259FF.1060609@redhat.com> References: <545259FF.1060609@redhat.com> Message-ID: <54AE612E.5020301@astro.ch> How do I get access to Redhat Software Collections, when I am on a RHEL self-service subscription? On 30.10.14 16:32, Engineering Partner Management wrote: > Red Hat is pleased to announce the general availability of Red Hat > Software Collections 1.2. The third installment of Red Hat Software > Collections includes vital open developer tools, such as GCC 4.9, Maven > and Git, and, for the first time, makes the Eclipse IDE available on Red > Hat Enterprise Linux 7. Delivered on a separate lifecycle from Red Hat > Enterprise Linux with a more frequent release cadence, Red Hat Software > Collections is designed to bridge developer agility and production > stability by accelerating the creation of modern applications that can > be confidently deployed into production. New additions include: > > * Red Hat Developer Toolset 3.0, a software collection in its own > right, is now included as a component of Red Hat Software Collections. > As with previous releases, Red Hat Developer Toolset ensures that C and > C++ developers are able compile once and deploy to multiple versions of > Red Hat Enterprise Linux. For example, Red Hat Developer Toolset users > can now compile on Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 to run on both Red Hat > Enterprise Linux 6 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7. Noteworthy updates to > Red Hat Developer Toolset include: GCC 4.9, GDB 7.8, the addition of > ltrace 0.7.91, and a number of additional bug fixes and feature > enhancements. > > * The availability of Dockerfiles for some of the most popular > software collections, helping developers to rapidly build and deploy > containerized applications. > > * DevAssistant 0.9.1, a useful tool for setting up development > environments, publishing code, and completing other associated tasks; > DevAssistant comes with both an intuitive GUI and CLI. > > * Maven 3.0, a build automation tool for Java projects that describes > how software is built and all associated dependencies. > > * Git 1.9.4, formerly distributed as part of Red Hat Developer > Toolset, has been updated and placed into its own collection enabling > developers to be able to access and install Git without necessarily > having to install Red Hat Developer Toolset. > > * An updated release of Nginx 1.6, giving developers access to a fully > supported version of this high performance web server and web proxy. > > * The latest stable versions of popular dynamic languages employed to > create modern web-based applications, including Ruby with Rails, Python, > PHP, Perl, as well as a Technology Preview of node.js. > > * The latest stable versions of popular open source databases, > including MySQL, PostgreSQL, MariaDB, and MongoDB. > > As with previous releases, Red Hat Software Collections can be used to > develop applications for deployment on Red Hat Enterprise Linux, the > world?s leading enterprise Linux platform, and on OpenShift, the leading > Platform-as-a-Service (PaaS), offering customers the ultimate > flexibility and choice for development and deployment. In addition, > customers can deploy applications built using Red Hat Software > Collections into production with confidence as most Red Hat Software > Collections components are supported for 3 years. > > RED HAT SOFTWARE COLLECTIONS AVAILABILITY > Red Hat Software Collections 1.2 is available now for use with Red Hat > Enterprise Linux 6 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 to customers and > partners with select active Red Hat Enterprise Linux subscriptions. For > more information on how to install Red Hat Software Collections view the > Red Hat Software Collections 1.2 release notes at the following link: > > https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Software_Collections/ > > ADDITIONAL RESOURCES > To access documentation for Red Hat Software Collections, visit: > * Latest Red Hat Software Collections release notes: > https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Software_Collections/ > > * Latest Red Hat Developer Toolset release notes: > https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Developer_Toolset/ > > * Additional Red Hat Enterprise Linux documentation: > https://access.redhat.com/knowledge/docs/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/ > > Sincerely, > > The Red Hat Enterprise Linux Team > > _______________________________________________ > rhelv6-list mailing list > rhelv6-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhelv6-list From bda20 at cam.ac.uk Thu Jan 15 10:12:20 2015 From: bda20 at cam.ac.uk (Ben) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 10:12:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [rhelv6-list] Subscription Manager functionality Message-ID: So, according to RHSA-2014:1070-01 we have to migrate to Red Hat Subscription Manager by July 31, 2017. All systems using Red Hat Network Classic Hosted directly, or indirectly with Red Hat Proxy must be moved. Thus far I've held off, other than for three RHEL7 workstations. Can someone, anyone, tell me when Subscription Manager (which I'm assuming is under https://access.redhat.com/management/) is going to gain any of the useful functionality of Red Hat network Classic (Hosted), when used with Smart Management entitlements/subscriptions? That is to say: - Software channel entitlements listing - Listing systems by out of date/virtual/unentitled/inactive/recently registered - System Set Manager - Groups of any kind, and showing ungrouped systems - Scheduling - Profiles - Even just being able to see how many Errata and Packages a system is behind on and to drill down to look at each of the above At present I don't see any kind of Smart Management functionality in Subscription Manager. Does that mean I should start thinking about downgrading my subscriptions/entitlements to lose Smart Management? That would be disappointing as being able to group systems was very helpful. Especially when I could then assign an Activation Key for joining that group, which would subscribe a joining system to certain child channels I'd specified within the key (https://rhn.redhat.com/network/account/activation_keys/list.pxt). There are Activation Keys in Subscription Manager, but I don't see any of that functionality within it (https://access.redhat.com/management/activation_keys), unless I'm missing something. It seems Subscription Manager Activation Keys can ensure your system gets the right subscription (and service level), but there's no way to specify child channels. I won't even start on Provisioning as I don't actually use that. But I'm sure others do. I don't see any of that functionality represented at all. It's more than likely that all of this functionality is already available. But Subscription Manager seems to be relatively opaque in a way that RHN Classic isn't, so I'm not seeing it. Does anyone have some useful pointers on where I need to go to discover the undoubtably rich functionality that I'm currently unable to unlock, please? Because at present it seems like I'm losing a lot of useful stuff just so that Red Hat can police their customers better. With grateful thanks, Ben -- Unix Support, UIS, University of Cambridge, England From derek at umiacs.umd.edu Fri Jan 23 16:06:04 2015 From: derek at umiacs.umd.edu (Derek Yarnell) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:06:04 -0500 Subject: [rhelv6-list] Subscription Manager functionality In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54C2716C.4010802@umiacs.umd.edu> Hi Ben, On 1/15/15 5:12 AM, Ben wrote: > Can someone, anyone, tell me when Subscription Manager (which I'm > assuming is under https://access.redhat.com/management/) is going to > gain any of the useful functionality of Red Hat network Classic > (Hosted), when used with Smart Management entitlements/subscriptions? > That is to say: > > - Software channel entitlements listing > - Listing systems by out of date/virtual/unentitled/inactive/recently > registered > - System Set Manager > - Groups of any kind, and showing ungrouped systems > - Scheduling > - Profiles > - Even just being able to see how many Errata and Packages a system is > behind on and to drill down to look at each of the above We are in the transition to Satellite from about 1000 nodes using proxy and RHN. Unfortunately SAM to my understanding will never be getting the features that made RHN Classic hosted useful. SAM seems to only be analogous to what seems to be the now defunct Proxy product. We had SAM for our RHEL7 hosts because it was required but after talking with Red Hat they told me my only avenue was to get Satellite for patch level functionality. I really don't understand what Red Hat wants to position for non-satellite users to use even just get a basic is this system up to date status. Thanks, derek -- Derek T. Yarnell University of Maryland Institute for Advanced Computer Studies From bda20 at cam.ac.uk Fri Jan 30 12:20:15 2015 From: bda20 at cam.ac.uk (Ben) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 12:20:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [rhelv6-list] Subscription Manager functionality In-Reply-To: <54C2716C.4010802@umiacs.umd.edu> References: <54C2716C.4010802@umiacs.umd.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015, Derek Yarnell wrote: > On 1/15/15 5:12 AM, Ben wrote: > >> Can someone, anyone, tell me when Subscription Manager (which I'm >> assuming is under https://access.redhat.com/management/) is going to gain >> any of the useful functionality of Red Hat network Classic (Hosted), when >> used with Smart Management entitlements/subscriptions? That is to say: >> >> - Software channel entitlements listing >> - Listing systems by out of date/virtual/unentitled/inactive/recently registered >> - System Set Manager >> - Groups of any kind, and showing ungrouped systems >> - Scheduling >> - Profiles >> - Even just being able to see how many Errata and Packages a system is behind on and to drill down to look at each of the above > > We are in the transition to Satellite from about 1000 nodes using proxy > and RHN. Unfortunately SAM to my understanding will never be getting the > features that made RHN Classic hosted useful. SAM seems to only be > analogous to what seems to be the now defunct Proxy product. Well, that's just silly. Are they just expecting we'll all install a local Satellite as a matter of course? > We had SAM for our RHEL7 hosts because it was required but after talking > with Red Hat they told me my only avenue was to get Satellite for patch > level functionality. Very silly. > I really don't understand what Red Hat wants to position for non-satellite > users to use even just get a basic is this system up to date status. Would someone from Red Hat care to weigh in and tell us what where we're supposed to find the functionality of RHN Classic, once RHN Classic has gone, please? With grateful thanks, Ben -- Unix Support, UIS, University of Cambridge, England From brilong at cisco.com Fri Jan 30 15:41:06 2015 From: brilong at cisco.com (Brian Long (brilong)) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 15:41:06 +0000 Subject: [rhelv6-list] Subscription Manager functionality In-Reply-To: References: <54C2716C.4010802@umiacs.umd.edu> Message-ID: I think Red Hat has given up on mailing lists for a lot of community interaction and they expect you to post in their online forums. Evidence of this is seen in the fact that no RHEL 7 mailing list was created. :) /Brian/ On Jan 30, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Ben wrote: > Would someone from Red Hat care to weigh in and tell us what where we're supposed to find the functionality of RHN Classic, once RHN Classic has gone, please? From bda20 at cam.ac.uk Fri Jan 30 16:08:12 2015 From: bda20 at cam.ac.uk (Ben) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 16:08:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [rhelv6-list] Subscription Manager functionality In-Reply-To: References: <54C2716C.4010802@umiacs.umd.edu> Message-ID: Sad, disappointing, and a backward step... but true, I guess. OK, not ever having used the forums before, where would you (those esteemed compatriots still on this mailing list, not just Brian) suggest I start? I ask, because https://access.redhat.com/groups/groups-dashboard seems to be a 404. And https://access.redhat.com/groups/ just tells me I'm not a member of any private groups. Is it https://access.redhat.com/discussions I should be looking at? Ben On Fri, 30 Jan 2015, Brian Long (brilong) wrote: > I think Red Hat has given up on mailing lists for a lot of community > interaction and they expect you to post in their online forums. Evidence > of this is seen in the fact that no RHEL 7 mailing list was created. :) > > /Brian/ > > On Jan 30, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Ben wrote: > >> Would someone from Red Hat care to weigh in and tell us what where we're supposed to find the functionality of RHN Classic, once RHN Classic has gone, please? > > > _______________________________________________ > rhelv6-list mailing list > rhelv6-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhelv6-list > Ben -- Unix Support, UIS, University of Cambridge, England From solarflow99 at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 18:23:47 2015 From: solarflow99 at gmail.com (solarflow99) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 10:23:47 -0800 Subject: [rhelv6-list] Subscription Manager functionality In-Reply-To: References: <54C2716C.4010802@umiacs.umd.edu> Message-ID: That is disappointing, I'm surprised the forum and list couldn't be integrated. On Jan 30, 2015 8:12 AM, "Ben" wrote: > Sad, disappointing, and a backward step... but true, I guess. > > OK, not ever having used the forums before, where would you (those > esteemed compatriots still on this mailing list, not just Brian) suggest I > start? > > I ask, because https://access.redhat.com/groups/groups-dashboard seems to > be a 404. And https://access.redhat.com/groups/ just tells me I'm not a > member of any private groups. > > Is it https://access.redhat.com/discussions I should be looking at? > > Ben > > > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015, Brian Long (brilong) wrote: > > I think Red Hat has given up on mailing lists for a lot of community >> interaction and they expect you to post in their online forums. Evidence >> of this is seen in the fact that no RHEL 7 mailing list was created. :) >> >> /Brian/ >> >> On Jan 30, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Ben wrote: >> >> Would someone from Red Hat care to weigh in and tell us what where we're >>> supposed to find the functionality of RHN Classic, once RHN Classic has >>> gone, please? >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rhelv6-list mailing list >> rhelv6-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhelv6-list >> >> > Ben > -- > Unix Support, UIS, University of Cambridge, England > > _______________________________________________ > rhelv6-list mailing list > rhelv6-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhelv6-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlah at redhat.com Fri Jan 30 18:52:24 2015 From: dlah at redhat.com (Dan Lah) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:52:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: [rhelv6-list] Subscription Manager functionality In-Reply-To: References: <54C2716C.4010802@umiacs.umd.edu> Message-ID: <1352753435.4612495.1422643944139.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> All, I'll start with an apology that there should have been better directions in the RHSA and subsequent email on how to follow conversations and updates on our progress to integrate the RHN functionality into the new subscription service interfaces. Since I've seen that this thread has moved to the discuss "https://access.redhat.com/discussions/1337603" I'll review there and drop in updates on status and on the closure of feature gap items. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for your efforts to reach out, Dan Lah ----- Original Message ----- > From: "solarflow99" gmail.com> > To: "Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 (Santiago) discussion mailing-list" > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 1:23:47 PM > Subject: Re: [rhelv6-list] Subscription Manager functionality > > > > That is disappointing, I'm surprised the forum and list couldn't be > integrated. > On Jan 30, 2015 8:12 AM, "Ben" < bda20 at cam.ac.uk > wrote: > > > Sad, disappointing, and a backward step... but true, I guess. > > OK, not ever having used the forums before, where would you (those esteemed > compatriots still on this mailing list, not just Brian) suggest I start? > > I ask, because https://access.redhat.com/ groups/groups-dashboard seems to be > a 404. And https://access.redhat.com/ groups/ just tells me I'm not a member > of any private groups. > > Is it https://access.redhat.com/ discussions I should be looking at? > > Ben > > > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015, Brian Long (brilong) wrote: > > > > I think Red Hat has given up on mailing lists for a lot of community > interaction and they expect you to post in their online forums. Evidence of > this is seen in the fact that no RHEL 7 mailing list was created. :) > > /Brian/ > > On Jan 30, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Ben < bda20 at cam.ac.uk > wrote: > > > > Would someone from Red Hat care to weigh in and tell us what where we're > supposed to find the functionality of RHN Classic, once RHN Classic has > gone, please? > > > ______________________________ _________________ > rhelv6-list mailing list > rhelv6-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/ mailman/listinfo/rhelv6-list > > > Ben > -- > Unix Support, UIS, University of Cambridge, England > > ______________________________ _________________ > rhelv6-list mailing list > rhelv6-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/ mailman/listinfo/rhelv6-list > > _______________________________________________ > rhelv6-list mailing list > rhelv6-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhelv6-list -- Thank you, Dan Lah irc = dlah dlah at redhat.com 919.890.8595 (o) 919.699.8830 (m)