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Re: Fedora 12 Beta Blocker Meeting #1 Recap--2009-09-11

On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 08:23 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:

> I wanted to suggest https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518880
> as a candidate for blocker status, because it's a regression in a
> well-publicized feature.  (The maintainers are already aware of the
> problem and working on it, I'd just like to make sure it's not lost in
> the shuffle.)
> That criterion is worth considering generally for blocker status.  But
> maybe it needs some refinement?

We don't really have hard and fast criteria for blockers. This is for
two reasons: a) we're too lazy to write any, and b) it's really hard. b)
obviously has significant implications for a). ;)

less flippantly, it's almost impossible to quantify blocker-ness in
terms flexible enough to cover all cases, but rigid enough to be of any
actual use in objective evaluation (as opposed to just coming down to a
subjective judgment call, which is what we currently use).

We have a fairly solid definition for *Alpha* blockers - only 'high' or
'urgent' severity bugs in critical path components - but even that
requires occasional exceptions, and the higher standard required of Beta
and final releases makes it harder to define blocker-ness.

So, short story, right now it's a judgment call. I'd certainly judge
that this bug is a _final release_ blocker. Whether it's a beta blocker
is a trickier call. We'll make sure to cover it in the meeting on Friday
to see what everyone thinks.

The two main ways to propose something as a blocker: show up to the
meeting and raise it, or simply set it as one (as someone's done for
this bug already - it's been set as a final release blocker at present)
and it'll automatically get looked at during the meeting. If the
consensus at the meeting is that it isn't a blocker, it'll be dropped
(with an explanation).

Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org

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