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Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen



Steve Dickson said the following on 09/29/2009 04:35 PM Pacific Time:
On 09/29/2009 07:16 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 07:12:03PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
On 09/29/2009 06:55 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 06:21:35PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:


On 09/29/2009 06:13 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 17:52 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
I thought today was the dead line...

http://www.linux-archive.org/fedora-development/372823-all-features-need-100-beta-freeze-2009-09-29-a.html

I should mention that Beta is the deadline to have the code in what we
think is the final state, baring any glaring bugs, not a point to enable
experimental code/settings for further experimentation.
This is in the final state... its been a 18 month effort to get this
accepted by upstream...

At the end of the day, I was just following the rules that were deemed by
that email and a number of earlier ones... I'm a bit dumbfound...

I think that what we need, Steve, is some sort of information about
what testing has happened up to this point that satisfies FESCo that
this change the equivalent of moving the needle from 99% complete to
100% complete, as opposed to moving from 90% complete to 91% complete
(with testing being the last 9%).

Not a problem... I want to and will work closely with FESCo to make
sure we know all the ins and outs of this change... believe me my
slate is cleared for few weeks to be as responsive as possible
for this new feature... In the end this will be a good thing...
[...snip...]

I want to be perfectly clear that I'm not sounding an "all clear" on
this by any means.  If your answer here means that this change hasn't
been thoroughly tested, you're going to have a hard time convincing
anyone that it should be turning over on Beta freeze day.

By no means did I interpret that at all... but here lies the
problem... I had no idea I would  have to convenience *anybody*
of *anything* because I thought I made the dead line... again all
following was the schedule in:
         http://www.linux-archive.org/fedora-development/372823-all-features-need-100-beta-freeze-2009-09-29-a.html

And Today I am %100 finished... Please point out which part of that
did I misinterpret, because the last thing I want to do is cause problems...

steved.


https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-July/msg00027.html

Many of us were assuming that "testable" and "significantly complete" would be enough to imply that a change like this should be done so it could be tested during the Alpha.

How should we word things differently in the future so it is clearer?

Thanks,
John


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