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Re: Wanna give me a hand debunking this?



Kelly Miller wrote:
Although I imagine people don't want to spend too much time feeding the trolls, I want to at least be able to post something showing that I was trying to do the right thing before I write this off as a stupid troll argument. So someone want to point me in the direction of some evidence showing how much of a lie this is?

"�My guess is that Novell tries to elevate levels of participation in OpenSUSE because that�s the distribution Novell feeds on. It hopes that it can hide in the fog while others do all the labour.�

This describes exactly what Red Hat does with Fedora. Not that it was a bad thing, as everybody working on or using Fedora is conscious ofusing a bleeding-edge distro.

So, to explain in more detail: Fedora was meant to help the development of Red Hat�s codebase with the help of the community. Red Hat uses Fedora (good as it may be) purely as a test-bed, where they can try out new technologies that could prove to be too unstable for RHEL without any risk. Fixes from RHEL don�t go upstream to Fedora because the codecase it too different. Not because of evil intent from Red Hat�s side but just because the enterprise-distro and the bleeding-edge-testing distro are too far apart.

The only part that is really negative about Fedora is that something doesn�t happen before a release that happens before openSUSE-releases: A decided corporate effort at bug-squashing. It doesn�t happen because Red Hat cannot afford to put its complete ressources at de-bugging code that they won�t use for their commercial product anytime soon (while for Novell it makes sense because openSUSE�s code goes back into SLED, soon).

The result is that Fedora is a fine distro but a bit rough around the edges."



There's not much that's outright wrong there, I wouldn't worry about it. You won't convince anyone any more than they will convince you, their views are pretty set.

I use both, though mainly Fedora, and some others. I don't see a great difference between the Red Hat and SUSE (and Canonical if it comes to that) models. All have bleeding-edge projects where the adventurous can cut themselves, and stable versions for those averse to pain.

All make a decent effort at bug-fixing and polishing the product. Where sensible (eg FC<>RHEL5), I'm sure fixes are shared.


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