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Re: Can Java just shoot me?

On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 10:30:46PM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:14:28 -0500
> David Boles <dgboles gmail com> wrote:
> > Look at the drop down window and 'see Java JE' (that is what you are
> > looking for right?) click
> No. I'm looking for whatever makes java work in firefox. I don't
> have the slightest clue that "Java JE" is that thing (especially
> when there are umpteen other choices containing the word Java,
> and judging from what I've seen so far, its probably really
> Java SE, not JE :-).

Tom, you have to understand that Java folks always assume that you
know their arcane argot and that you Just Know(tm) exactly what you
want in all that alphabet soup. That's why about every time I get some
of that stuff figured out, they go and change it on me. A lot of this
is designed by people fired from the IRS for writing things too

It also applies to Java applications like Eclipse and packages like

It isn't just the Sun folks. How the hell are we supposed to know that
something called "icedtea" has anything to do with Java? People who
name projects something "kewl" but that obscures the nature of the
project are not thinking "user friendly".

It gets worse. Don't try actually programming anything more complex
than a command line "Hello World" program.


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