[rhn-users] Re: The results of your email commands
Roy A. Crabtree
roy.crabtree at ncat.edu
Mon Sep 5 18:32:42 UTC 2005
I did not send any commands; just a comment on someone else prompting me
with their security configuration; something you may want
to get people to stop doing through your Email list server.
rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com wrote:
>The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your
>original message.
>
>- Results:
> Ignoring non-text/plain MIME parts
>
>- Unprocessed:
> take mail sent from an Email list server through the address
> originally provided for that purpose only. Also, even if a message is
> directed back at you because you are so incautious as to provide
> your own direct Email address should probably also be accepted if the
> message has as its reference the topic of a thread you are subscribed to
> on a list server.
> Additionally, my Email side does not recognize this from of your Email
> address
> (a problem that again violates the SMTP standards; not your direct fault
> or responsibility,
> but it means I cannot reply directly back to you).
> Since my only contact is THROUGH the list server for the originating
> message response, it is not
> appropriate for you to ask individuals using the list server validly to
> subscribe to your additional
> security protocols, especially when they require something that actually
> breaks SMTP standards
> (capitalization of your E-mail address in a particular form); especially
> when this can be broken or
> bypassed trivially with an AI respondent that prompts and thrusts past
> the "security" it provides;
> a better method is a PGP signature or the like; but NOT as a requirement
> to all respondents acting
> through a list server.
> The _list_ server requirements are the ones to be obeyed; none other.
> Otherwise you place an undue burden on those who are using the list
> server; in that each new respondent gets prompted to do _your_ security
> upkeep.
> If this somehow is an error that you did not intend or is arising from a
> different circumstance, my apologies.
> But I do not see how, in that your original Email id not appear to carry
> your actual EMail address at all
> (which in turn would be the FIRST step for someone concerned with Email
> security through a list server;
> and these days most list servers provide this "stripping' ability in the
> per-user profile that you can set up
> _through_the_list_server_).
> Cheers. Good luck with future correspondents.
> aws1998 at comcast.net wrote:
>
>- Ignored:
> >Thank you for sending me your email with the following subject:
> > "Re: [rhn-users] RedHat updates can be downloaded through a Windows"
> >To prevent your message from being lost in the torrents of spam that plague the net these days, I am now using Geobytes "`m..." to protect me from spam.
> >
> >`m... has placed your message on hold pending human verification. Unlike any other product, `m... supports three levels of verification, so very few people that email me ever get to see this message, but in this case, it is necessary for me to ask you to click on the link below and verify that your message is not spam.
> >
> > http://mav.geobytes.com/m.htm?v&e=roy.crabtree@ncat.edu&a=aws27s
> >
> >Further once verified you will be provided with a unique "CaseKeyed" (case sensitive) version of my email address which when used to contact me will ensure the immediate delivery of your future messages, without the need for further verification.
> >
> >I really want to receive your email, so please follow the above link.
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> --
> Roy A. Crabtree
> UNC '76 gaa.lifer#11086
> NC A&T Fort Room 071
> 1601 East Market Street
> Greensboro, NC 27411
> 336-334-7856/7/8/9 x2249
>
> roy.crabtree <mailto:roy.crabtree at ncat.edu>@(ncat.edu
> <mailto:roy.crabtree at ncat.edu>, alumni.unc.edu
> <mailto:roy.crabtree at alumni.unc.edu>, gmail.com
> <mailto:roy.crabtree at gmail.com>)
>
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>
>- Done.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> Re: [rhn-users] RedHat updates can be downloaded through a Windows
> (aws27s)
> From:
> "Roy A. Crabtree" <roy.crabtree at ncat.edu>
> Date:
> Mon, 05 Sep 2005 14:27:22 -0400
> To:
> rhn-users-request at redhat.com
>
> To:
> rhn-users-request at redhat.com
>
>
> Sorry, but I think it would be more polite and apropos if you actually
> take mail sent from an Email list server through the address
> originally provided for that purpose only. Also, even if a message is
> directed back at you because you are so incautious as to provide
> your own direct Email address should probably also be accepted if the
> message has as its reference the topic of a thread you are subscribed
> to on a list server.
>
> Additionally, my Email side does not recognize this from of your Email
> address
> (a problem that again violates the SMTP standards; not your direct
> fault or responsibility,
> but it means I cannot reply directly back to you).
>
> Since my only contact is THROUGH the list server for the originating
> message response, it is not
> appropriate for you to ask individuals using the list server validly
> to subscribe to your additional
> security protocols, especially when they require something that
> actually breaks SMTP standards
> (capitalization of your E-mail address in a particular form);
> especially when this can be broken or
> bypassed trivially with an AI respondent that prompts and thrusts past
> the "security" it provides;
>
> a better method is a PGP signature or the like; but NOT as a
> requirement to all respondents acting
> through a list server.
>
> The _list_ server requirements are the ones to be obeyed; none other.
>
> Otherwise you place an undue burden on those who are using the list
> server; in that each new respondent gets prompted to do _your_
> security upkeep.
>
> If this somehow is an error that you did not intend or is arising from
> a different circumstance, my apologies.
>
> But I do not see how, in that your original Email id not appear to
> carry your actual EMail address at all
> (which in turn would be the FIRST step for someone concerned with
> Email security through a list server;
> and these days most list servers provide this "stripping' ability in
> the per-user profile that you can set up
> _through_the_list_server_).
>
> Cheers. Good luck with future correspondents.
>
> aws1998 at comcast.net wrote:
>
>>Thank you for sending me your email with the following subject:
>> "Re: [rhn-users] RedHat updates can be downloaded through a Windows"
>>To prevent your message from being lost in the torrents of spam that plague the net these days, I am now using Geobytes "`m..." to protect me from spam.
>>
>>`m... has placed your message on hold pending human verification. Unlike any other product, `m... supports three levels of verification, so very few people that email me ever get to see this message, but in this case, it is necessary for me to ask you to click on the link below and verify that your message is not spam.
>>
>> http://mav.geobytes.com/m.htm?v&e=roy.crabtree@ncat.edu&a=aws27s
>>
>>Further once verified you will be provided with a unique "CaseKeyed" (case sensitive) version of my email address which when used to contact me will ensure the immediate delivery of your future messages, without the need for further verification.
>>
>>I really want to receive your email, so please follow the above link.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> Roy A. Crabtree
> UNC '76 gaa.lifer#11086
> NC A&T Fort Room 071
> 1601 East Market Street
> Greensboro, NC 27411
> 336-334-7856/7/8/9 x2249
>
> roy.crabtree <mailto:roy.crabtree at ncat.edu>@(ncat.edu
> <mailto:roy.crabtree at ncat.edu>, alumni.unc.edu
> <mailto:roy.crabtree at alumni.unc.edu>, gmail.com
> <mailto:roy.crabtree at gmail.com>)
>
> --
> (c) RAC/IP, ARE,PRO,PAST
> (Copyright) Roy Andrew Crabtree/In Perpetuity
> All Rights/Reserved Explicitly
> Public Reuse Only
> Profits Always Safe Traded
--
--
Roy A. Crabtree
UNC '76 gaa.lifer#11086
NC A&T Fort Room 071
1601 East Market Street
Greensboro, NC 27411
336-334-7856/7/8/9 x2249
roy.crabtree <mailto:roy.crabtree at ncat.edu>@(ncat.edu
<mailto:roy.crabtree at ncat.edu>, alumni.unc.edu
<mailto:roy.crabtree at alumni.unc.edu>, gmail.com
<mailto:roy.crabtree at gmail.com>)
--
(c) RAC/IP, ARE,PRO,PAST
(Copyright) Roy Andrew Crabtree/In Perpetuity
All Rights/Reserved Explicitly
Public Reuse Only
Profits Always Safe Traded
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