[rhn-users] RHN List Membership

Bill Watson bill at magicdigits.com
Wed Jan 24 16:20:33 UTC 2007


The list name is the source of the problem. Folks like me google a specific
problem and find part of a solution. Then I/we see that "Red Hat Network"
was the source of the information. Dang what a fine sounding name of a group
of folks that knew what I was looking for. From reading the post, I see at
the bottom how to sign up. From there, I'm in! (yes I paid for my
subscriptions, so that'd not have stopped me)

While reading the group name, I see nothing that would stop me since it is
so ambiguous.

Red Hat Network of people who know stuff about Red Hat
Red Hat Network to help me figure out this damn gigabit card
Red Hat Network thingy that keeps me up to date ---- naw, that'd be a group
called up2date.

So I land here and see as many messages bitching about folks falling into
this group inappropriately as I do messages about problems/solutions for Red
Hat.

Yes, due to the incessant 'wrong list' bitching, I have also signed up for
the Nahant list. I would never have searched for that word since I refer to
my Red Hat as AS4.0 and not by Nahant [::makes quick check to make sure my
stuff is called Nahant - whew!::].

In the subject of the email confirming membership into this group (since the
body is blown off), put something like ***read this email to verify this
group is for you***. As many people will read the body of an expected group
entry confirmation email as do the EULA's. 

Bill Watson
bill at magicdigits.com

-----Original Message-----
From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On
Behalf Of Entrena Perez, Julio [HP]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:49 AM
To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com)
Subject: RE: [rhn-users] RHN List Membership


I agree with you Larry, but the lack of 'netiquette' that lots of people
show here posting non RHN related requests is draining a respectable amount
of my (our?) time and that's not the purpose of this support mailing list,
is it?

Of course all of us would prefer that this measure would not be necessary,
but some of us think it is.

Juli

-----Mensaje original-----
De: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] En
nombre de Larry D Sorensen Enviado el: miércoles, 24 de enero de 2007 16:30
Para: rhn-users at redhat.com
Asunto: Re: [rhn-users] RHN List Membership

I thought the whole purpose of lists like this was to help out colleagues as
well as get help for ourselves if needed. If someone is way out of line for
this discussion list, why not just point them in the right direction? It is
not like we are all forced to respond to questions if we don't want to. This
is a support group.

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:29:29 -0000 "Gibbons, Mark (BRA03)"
<Mark.Gibbons at hp.com> writes:
> Agreed
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com
> [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of E Azariah 
> Jason-G20266
> Sent: 24 January 2007 10:02
> To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com)
> Subject: RE: [rhn-users] RHN List Membership
> 
> Me too agree with Mike
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com
> [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Entrena Perez, 
> Julio [HP]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:27 PM
> To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com)
> Subject: RE: [rhn-users] RHN List Membership
> 
> I agree with Mike.
> 
> Regards,
> Juli
> 
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com
> [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] En nombre de MJang Enviado el: 
> miércoles, 24 de enero de 2007 7:52
> Para: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com)
> Asunto: [rhn-users] RHN List Membership
> 
> Folks,
> 
> With the constant discussion and complaints about "off-topic" stuff,
> I wonder if membership to this particular list should be limited.
> 
> As this list is focused on the RHN, and RHN access requires a paid
> subscription (except for trial users), perhaps membership should be 
> limited to registered RHN users (paid and trial).
> 
> There are several dozen lists (including those associated with RHEL
> 3 / RHEL 4 / RHEL 5 (beta) / various Fedora topics) for all levels 
> of users who don't need to know more about the RHN.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
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