From Felix.Schaefer at iul.uni-dortmund.de Fri Feb 1 14:28:26 2008 From: Felix.Schaefer at iul.uni-dortmund.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Sch=E4fer=2C_Felix?=) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:28:26 +0100 Subject: [rhn-users] Yum config - Syncs too often Message-ID: Hello, Our servers regularly get kicked from the rhn update repositories, because they sync too often. I have narrowed down the problem to the SCM software we use, which runs every 20 minutes, and each time checks if certain packages are installed in their latest version. As far as i can tell, yum syncs each time with the repository, which get the servers kicked. I tried changing the "metadata_expire" in /etc/yum.conf to bigger values, but it didn't help either. Anyone have any ideas how to configure yum so it won't sync with the repository each time it is run? Thanks, Felix Please notice our announcement of the 3rd International Conference on High Speed Forming (ICHSF 2008) on March, 11th - 12th 2008 For detailed information visit http://www.iul.uni-dortmund.de/ichsf08/ Bitte beachten Sie unsere Ank?ndigung der 3rd International Conference on High Speed Forming (ICHSF 2008) am 11. - 12.M?rz 2008 Genaue Informationen entnehmen Sie bitte unserer Homepage http://www.iul.uni-dortmund.de/ichsf08/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paula at scripps.edu Fri Feb 1 21:26:54 2008 From: paula at scripps.edu (Paula J. Lindsay) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:26:54 -0800 Subject: [rhn-users] need to remove screen saver In-Reply-To: <000301c90c05$0c638bb0$8064a8c0@sammy> References: <000301c90c05$0c638bb0$8064a8c0@sammy> Message-ID: <47A38E9E.4070504@scripps.edu> Hi everyone, I have a red hat 4 box that many people use to log on to an instrument. When a users leaves the box and another person wants to log in, they can't due to the screen saver coming on. How can I globally turn off the screen saver so that it never comes on for any body. Or, a global passwd so that everyone can log in when the screen saver is on? This box becomes unusable and it is suppose to be available to all scientist at all hours of the day. Can someone help me? Many thanks in advance, Paula -- Paula J. Lindsay IT Analyst III Research Computing 10550 North Torrey Pines Road La Jolla, CA 92037 858.784.9378 (office) 858.784.9301 (fax) paula at scripps.edu From Maarten.Broekman at FMR.COM Fri Feb 1 21:43:25 2008 From: Maarten.Broekman at FMR.COM (Broekman, Maarten) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:43:25 -0500 Subject: [rhn-users] need to remove screen saver References: <000301c90c05$0c638bb0$8064a8c0@sammy> <47A38E9E.4070504@scripps.edu> Message-ID: <9D4C5DEC799CDB4F8340526B5FD89B1B02498362@MSGMROCLN2WIN.DMN1.FMR.COM> There are a number of things you can do to automatically log out idle users. http://www.networksecurityarchive.org/html/Focus-Linux/2004-10/msg00017. html is just an example. For bash users, TMOUT: TMOUT If set to a value greater than zero, TMOUT is treated as the default timeout for the read builtin. The select command ter- minates if input does not arrive after TMOUT seconds when input is coming from a terminal. In an interactive shell, the value is interpreted as the number of seconds to wait for input after issuing the primary prompt. Bash terminates after waiting for that number of seconds if input does not arrive. For csh users, autologout: autologout (+) The first word is the number of minutes of inactivity before automatic logout. The optional second word is the number of minutes of inactivity before automatic locking. When the shell automatically logs out, it prints auto-logout, sets the variable logout to automatic and exits. When the shell automatically locks, the user is required to enter his pass- word to continue working. Five incorrect attempts result in automatic logout. Set to 60 (automatic logout after 60 min- utes, and no locking) by default in login and superuser shells, but not if the shell thinks it is running under a win- dow system (i.e., the DISPLAY environment variable is set), the tty is a pseudo-tty (pty) or the shell was not so compiled (see the version shell variable). See also the afsuser and logout shell variables. Maarten Broekman -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Paula J. Lindsay Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 4:27 PM To: Red Hat Network Users List Subject: [rhn-users] need to remove screen saver Hi everyone, I have a red hat 4 box that many people use to log on to an instrument. When a users leaves the box and another person wants to log in, they can't due to the screen saver coming on. How can I globally turn off the screen saver so that it never comes on for any body. Or, a global passwd so that everyone can log in when the screen saver is on? This box becomes unusable and it is suppose to be available to all scientist at all hours of the day. Can someone help me? Many thanks in advance, Paula -- Paula J. Lindsay IT Analyst III Research Computing 10550 North Torrey Pines Road La Jolla, CA 92037 858.784.9378 (office) 858.784.9301 (fax) paula at scripps.edu _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users From ebashi at gmail.com Sat Feb 2 03:09:00 2008 From: ebashi at gmail.com (Enils) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 22:09:00 -0500 Subject: [rhn-users] need to remove screen saver In-Reply-To: <47A38E9E.4070504@scripps.edu> References: <000301c90c05$0c638bb0$8064a8c0@sammy> <47A38E9E.4070504@scripps.edu> Message-ID: <99fb4c10802011909q2dc7a80cnf26d42fb06509311@mail.gmail.com> Paula, You have a few choices: 1. You can uninstall the screensaver program altogether. If you're running Gnome as your desktop manager, chances are you're using gnome-screensaver or xscreensaver. Do a "apropos screensaver" or rpm -qa | grep screensaver to find out which one you're running. 2. Unlike Windows, Linux has multiple X-displays. If a user has logged on and the screensaver is on, simply hit "Ctrl-alt-F1" or "Ctrl-alt-F2" or any other up to F6. The main desktop by default runs on F7. Once you've done that, logon as another user and issue this command: "startx -- :8" . This will open another X without disrupting the first user's session. It does not have to be 8, you can also use 9, 10 and so on. You can switch between X-sessions using Ctrl-Alt-F. Finally, I don't know of any screensavers that would let you use a "global password". Plus you would not want to do that anyway! Regards, Enils On Feb 1, 2008 4:26 PM, Paula J. Lindsay wrote: > Hi everyone, > I have a red hat 4 box that many people use to log on to an instrument. > When a users leaves the > box and another person wants to log in, they can't due to the screen > saver coming on. How > can I globally turn off the screen saver so that it never comes on for > any body. Or, a global > passwd so that everyone can log in when the screen saver is on? This > box becomes unusable > and it is suppose to be available to all scientist at all hours of the > day. Can someone help me? > Many thanks in advance, > Paula > > -- > Paula J. Lindsay > IT Analyst III > Research Computing > 10550 North Torrey Pines Road > La Jolla, CA 92037 > 858.784.9378 (office) > 858.784.9301 (fax) > paula at scripps.edu > > _______________________________________________ > rhn-users mailing list > rhn-users at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users > From madunix at gmail.com Mon Feb 11 19:02:06 2008 From: madunix at gmail.com (Mad Unix) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:02:06 +0200 Subject: [rhn-users] rpm Message-ID: <4d3f56c90802111102q372ea75bo301c9ffe757a8b62@mail.gmail.com> am trying to sudo rpmbuild -ta courier-authlib-0.58.tar.bz2 on RHEL5 64bit i get the following message ..... Processing files: courier-authlib-pipe-0.58-1.5Server Provides: libauthpipe.so.0()(64bit) Requires(rpmlib): rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 Requires: courier-authlib = 0:0.58-1.5Server libauthpipe.so.0()(64bit) libc.so.6()(64bit) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.4)(64bit) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4)(64bit) libcourierauthcommon.so.0()(64bit) rtld(GNU_HASH) Checking for unpackaged file(s): /usr/lib/rpm/check-files /var/tmp/courier- authlib-0.58-1.5Server-root error: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found: /usr/lib64/libltdl.a /usr/lib64/libltdl.la /usr/lib64/libltdl.so /usr/lib64/libltdl.so.3 /usr/lib64/libltdl.so.3.1.0 RPM build errors: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found: /usr/lib64/libltdl.a /usr/lib64/libltdl.la /usr/lib64/libltdl.so /usr/lib64/libltdl.so.3 /usr/lib64/libltdl.so.3.1.0 -- madunix -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net Tue Feb 12 17:42:27 2008 From: bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net (Buchan Milne) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:42:27 +0200 Subject: [rhn-users] need to remove screen saver In-Reply-To: <99fb4c10802011909q2dc7a80cnf26d42fb06509311@mail.gmail.com> References: <000301c90c05$0c638bb0$8064a8c0@sammy> <47A38E9E.4070504@scripps.edu> <99fb4c10802011909q2dc7a80cnf26d42fb06509311@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200802121942.27321.bgmilne@staff.telkomsa.net> On Saturday 02 February 2008 05:09:00 Enils wrote: > Paula, > > You have a few choices: > 1. You can uninstall the screensaver program altogether. If you're > running Gnome as your desktop manager, chances are you're using > gnome-screensaver or xscreensaver. Do a "apropos screensaver" or rpm > -qa | grep screensaver to find out which one you're running. > 2. Unlike Windows, Linux has multiple X-displays. Windows XP, when not joined to a domain, does allow multiple simultaneous users. > If a user has logged > on and the screensaver is on, simply hit "Ctrl-alt-F1" or > "Ctrl-alt-F2" or any other up to F6. The main desktop by default runs > on F7. Once you've done that, logon as another user and issue this > command: "startx -- :8" . This will open another X without disrupting > the first user's session. It does not have to be 8, you can also use > 9, 10 and so on. You can switch between X-sessions using > Ctrl-Alt-F. GNOME doesn't have a "Switch user" menu entry like KDE ? > > Finally, I don't know of any screensavers that would let you use a > "global password". Plus you would not want to do that anyway! But, the all support pam, and pam can be convinced to always succeed ... You could also find the configuration which disables the screensaver, add it to the home directory template (/etc/skel), enable it via a login script (e.g. /etc/X11/xinit.d/) or add the configuration entry to all your user accounts. Regards, Buchan From bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net Tue Feb 12 17:47:21 2008 From: bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net (Buchan Milne) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:47:21 +0200 Subject: [rhn-users] rpm In-Reply-To: <4d3f56c90802111102q372ea75bo301c9ffe757a8b62@mail.gmail.com> References: <4d3f56c90802111102q372ea75bo301c9ffe757a8b62@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200802121947.21869.bgmilne@staff.telkomsa.net> On Monday 11 February 2008 21:02:06 Mad Unix wrote: > am trying to sudo rpmbuild -ta courier-authlib-0.58.tar.bz2 on RHEL5 64bit > i get the following message ..... Seems like either a problem with the upstream source itself (install target copying libraries it shouldn't), or with the spec file in the source tarball. # rpm -qf /usr/lib64/libltdl.so.3.1.4 libtool-ltdl-1.5.22-6.1 Or, it could be that the spec file doesn't buildrequire libtool-ltdl-devel, and as such builds a bundled copy. Try installing libtool-ltdl-devel, and see if that helps (run the build again). > RPM build errors: > Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found: > /usr/lib64/libltdl.a > /usr/lib64/libltdl.la > /usr/lib64/libltdl.so > /usr/lib64/libltdl.so.3 > /usr/lib64/libltdl.so.3.1.0 Regards, Buchan From bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net Tue Feb 12 17:47:21 2008 From: bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net (Buchan Milne) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:47:21 +0200 Subject: [rhn-users] rpm In-Reply-To: <4d3f56c90802111102q372ea75bo301c9ffe757a8b62@mail.gmail.com> References: <4d3f56c90802111102q372ea75bo301c9ffe757a8b62@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200802121947.21869.bgmilne@staff.telkomsa.net> On Monday 11 February 2008 21:02:06 Mad Unix wrote: > am trying to sudo rpmbuild -ta courier-authlib-0.58.tar.bz2 on RHEL5 64bit > i get the following message ..... Seems like either a problem with the upstream source itself (install target copying libraries it shouldn't), or with the spec file in the source tarball. # rpm -qf /usr/lib64/libltdl.so.3.1.4 libtool-ltdl-1.5.22-6.1 Or, it could be that the spec file doesn't buildrequire libtool-ltdl-devel, and as such builds a bundled copy. Try installing libtool-ltdl-devel, and see if that helps (run the build again). > RPM build errors: > Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found: > /usr/lib64/libltdl.a > /usr/lib64/libltdl.la > /usr/lib64/libltdl.so > /usr/lib64/libltdl.so.3 > /usr/lib64/libltdl.so.3.1.0 Regards, Buchan From madunix at gmail.com Tue Feb 12 20:48:03 2008 From: madunix at gmail.com (Mad Unix) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:48:03 +0200 Subject: [rhn-users] rpm In-Reply-To: <200802121947.21869.bgmilne@staff.telkomsa.net> References: <4d3f56c90802111102q372ea75bo301c9ffe757a8b62@mail.gmail.com> <200802121947.21869.bgmilne@staff.telkomsa.net> Message-ID: <4d3f56c90802121248q1492648ag1d7c4ef71ab5fb44@mail.gmail.com> This one did the job yum install libtool-ltdl-devel Thanks On 2/12/08, Buchan Milne wrote: > > On Monday t11 February 2008 21:02:06 Mad Unix wrote: > > am trying to sudo rpmbuild -ta courier-authlib-0.58.tar.bz2 on RHEL5 > 64bit > > i get the following message ..... > > Seems like either a problem with the upstream source itself (install > target > copying libraries it shouldn't), or with the spec file in the source > tarball. > > # rpm -qf /usr/lib64/libltdl.so.3.1.4 > libtool-ltdl-1.5.22-6.1 > > Or, it could be that the spec file doesn't buildrequire > libtool-ltdl-devel, and as such builds a bundled copy. > > Try installing libtool-ltdl-devel, and see if that helps (run the build > again). > > > RPM build errors: > > Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found: > > /usr/lib64/libltdl.a > > /usr/lib64/libltdl.la > > /usr/lib64/libltdl.so > > /usr/lib64/libltdl.so.3 > > /usr/lib64/libltdl.so.3.1.0 > > Regards, > Buchan > -- madunix -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ebashi at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 03:05:23 2008 From: ebashi at gmail.com (Enils) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:05:23 -0500 Subject: [rhn-users] need to remove screen saver In-Reply-To: <200802121942.27321.bgmilne@staff.telkomsa.net> References: <000301c90c05$0c638bb0$8064a8c0@sammy> <47A38E9E.4070504@scripps.edu> <99fb4c10802011909q2dc7a80cnf26d42fb06509311@mail.gmail.com> <200802121942.27321.bgmilne@staff.telkomsa.net> Message-ID: <99fb4c10802121905i1ac6abf0s33245fd8bca45e96@mail.gmail.com> you'd be serving better this users' list by providing solutions for people who ask for them, rather than picking apart another user's post who offers solutions that work. When I talk about multiple X-sessions I am not referring to remote X-sessions. When you talk about multiple simultaneous users on windows you're thinking remote desktops. This is not the same thing. Last I checked, you can't sit in front of a windows xp box and logon (physically not remotely) as 3-4-5-6 different users as you can on Linux. "GNOME doesn't have a "Switch user" menu entry like KDE ?" I don't know what Gnome or KDE has. I use Fluxbox as my desktop manager; however I do most of my work on the command line. I'm guessing it probably does. Got me there! 1-0 for you. Enils On Feb 12, 2008 12:42 PM, Buchan Milne wrote: > On Saturday 02 February 2008 05:09:00 Enils wrote: > > Paula, > > > > You have a few choices: > > 1. You can uninstall the screensaver program altogether. If you're > > running Gnome as your desktop manager, chances are you're using > > gnome-screensaver or xscreensaver. Do a "apropos screensaver" or rpm > > -qa | grep screensaver to find out which one you're running. > > 2. Unlike Windows, Linux has multiple X-displays. > > Windows XP, when not joined to a domain, does allow multiple simultaneous > users. > > > If a user has logged > > on and the screensaver is on, simply hit "Ctrl-alt-F1" or > > "Ctrl-alt-F2" or any other up to F6. The main desktop by default runs > > on F7. Once you've done that, logon as another user and issue this > > command: "startx -- :8" . This will open another X without disrupting > > the first user's session. It does not have to be 8, you can also use > > 9, 10 and so on. You can switch between X-sessions using > > Ctrl-Alt-F. > > GNOME doesn't have a "Switch user" menu entry like KDE ? > > > > > Finally, I don't know of any screensavers that would let you use a > > "global password". Plus you would not want to do that anyway! > > But, the all support pam, and pam can be convinced to always succeed ... > > You could also find the configuration which disables the screensaver, add it > to the home directory template (/etc/skel), enable it via a login script > (e.g. /etc/X11/xinit.d/) or add the configuration entry to all your user > accounts. > > Regards, > Buchan > From duffy at redhat.com Wed Feb 13 03:32:37 2008 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:32:37 -0500 Subject: [rhn-users] need to remove screen saver In-Reply-To: <99fb4c10802121905i1ac6abf0s33245fd8bca45e96@mail.gmail.com> References: <000301c90c05$0c638bb0$8064a8c0@sammy> <47A38E9E.4070504@scripps.edu> <99fb4c10802011909q2dc7a80cnf26d42fb06509311@mail.gmail.com> <200802121942.27321.bgmilne@staff.telkomsa.net> <99fb4c10802121905i1ac6abf0s33245fd8bca45e96@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47B264D5.10208@redhat.com> Enils wrote: > you'd be serving better this users' list by providing solutions for > people who ask for them, rather than picking apart another user's post > who offers solutions that work. Actually, staying on topic for this list would really serve this list best I think. :) ~m From bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net Wed Feb 13 07:55:48 2008 From: bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net (Buchan Milne) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:55:48 +0200 Subject: [rhn-users] need to remove screen saver In-Reply-To: <99fb4c10802121905i1ac6abf0s33245fd8bca45e96@mail.gmail.com> References: <000301c90c05$0c638bb0$8064a8c0@sammy> <200802121942.27321.bgmilne@staff.telkomsa.net> <99fb4c10802121905i1ac6abf0s33245fd8bca45e96@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200802130955.48822.bgmilne@staff.telkomsa.net> On Wednesday 13 February 2008 05:05:23 Enils wrote: > you'd be serving better this users' list by providing solutions for > people who ask for them, rather than picking apart another user's post > who offers solutions that work. I did provide more solutions, but I believe technical inaccuracies should always be corrected (even though I run Linux on all but one of the computers I use, I don't believe Linux users should spread untruths about competing products). > When I talk about multiple X-sessions I am not referring to remote > X-sessions. When you talk about multiple simultaneous users on windows > you're thinking remote desktops. No, I am not. I am referring to local sessions. > Last I > checked, you can't sit in front of a windows xp box and logon > (physically not remotely) as 3-4-5-6 different users as you can on > Linux. This has been available since the initial release of Windows XP. Here is a document from Microsoft describing the feature: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279765 This site has a screenshot: http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/windowsxp_beta2.asp such as this one: http://www.winsupersite.com/images/reviews/winxp_2462_000b.gif and this one: http://www.winsupersite.com/images/reviews/winxp_2462_media_035.gif I am well aware that this has been possible under Linux since before the release of Windows XP (as I used it myself in 2000, without the "Switch user" menu options, with and without XDMCP etc.), I have also done development on Linux-based products systems allowing multiple simultaneous local X sessions on Linux, and that is one thing that Windows can't do natively (but, most Linux distributions don't ship with the multi-head tools required to do this by default anyway, and there are 3rd-party products for Windows that make this possible). But, now we are quite far off-topic. Regards, Buchan From inode0 at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 14:49:28 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:49:28 -0600 Subject: [rhn-users] need to remove screen saver In-Reply-To: <200802130955.48822.bgmilne@staff.telkomsa.net> References: <000301c90c05$0c638bb0$8064a8c0@sammy> <200802121942.27321.bgmilne@staff.telkomsa.net> <99fb4c10802121905i1ac6abf0s33245fd8bca45e96@mail.gmail.com> <200802130955.48822.bgmilne@staff.telkomsa.net> Message-ID: On Feb 13, 2008 1:55 AM, Buchan Milne wrote: > But, now we are quite far off-topic. This discussion began quite far off-topic. Here is a description of the purpose of rhn-users. Discussions about using Red Hat Network to manage and apply updates to Red Hat Enterprise Linux, including discussion about particular Red Hat Enterprise Linux updates. This list is not intended for discussion about topics specific to Red Hat Enterprise Linux that do not involve Red Hat Network. For discussion of such topics, you may want to try: [1] RHEL 4 Discussion - https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/nahant-list [2] RHEL 3 Discussion - https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/taroon-list [3] Red Hat System Administrators' list: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-sysadmin-list Perhaps that blurb could be updated to include the RHEL 5 lists but on-topic for this list is discussion about issues related in some way to Red Hat Network (the rhn part of rhn-users). John From Wes.Homard-roy at northampton.Ac.Uk Mon Feb 25 12:05:51 2008 From: Wes.Homard-roy at northampton.Ac.Uk (Homard-Roy Wes) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:05:51 +0000 Subject: [rhn-users] Critical system on RHN due to completed errata remaining at status "None" rather than "Completed"? Message-ID: Hi all, I am very new to both Linux and RHN so please bear with me! I am trying to set up a new RHEL 5 system but according to RHN, my system is a critical system and is out of date. If I click on "Critical Updates Available (update now)", I am taken to the list of relevant errata most of which have a status of "None" although sometimes a handful have a status of "Pending" or "Failed" if I have recently scheduled an update. However the errata with the "None" status are all ones which I have previously scheduled and which completed successfully according to the details tab of their individual errata update pages. Should these not be at a status of "Completed" now and therefore not still appearing in the list of errata which I still need to apply? I have scheduled a "Package List Refresh" from RHN which completed successfully and also run rhn-profile-sync from the main machine in case things weren't synched properly. I am at a loss as to what to do next to take my system out of its "critical" status...or is RHN lying to me and really my system is ok?! Any help gratefully received! Wes -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From akrherz at iastate.edu Mon Feb 25 14:46:07 2008 From: akrherz at iastate.edu (Daryl Herzmann) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:46:07 -0600 (CST) Subject: [rhn-users] Critical system on RHN due to completed errata remaining at status "None" rather than "Completed"? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Wes, On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Homard-Roy Wes wrote: > I am trying to set up a new RHEL 5 system but according to RHN, my > system is a critical system and is out of date. Did you install RHEL 5 and then register it to RHN just now? Or has it been registered for a while? Do you have auto-apply-errata checked on the RHN website or yum-updatesd configured locally? > If I click on "Critical Updates Available (update now)", I am taken to > the list of relevant errata most of which have a status of "None" > although sometimes a handful have a status of "Pending" or "Failed" if I > have recently scheduled an update. However the errata with the "None" > status are all ones which I have previously scheduled and which > completed successfully according to the details tab of their individual > errata update pages. Should these not be at a status of "Completed" now > and therefore not still appearing in the list of errata which I still > need to apply? Unfortunately, you can't rely on RHN to automatically schedule errata for application. You need to either setup yum-updatesd to automatically apply new errata or run 'yum -y update' from cron. If you are looking to get your machine currently updated, you can run yum -y update from the command line. That should get your system in an updated state. > I have scheduled a "Package List Refresh" from RHN which completed > successfully and also run rhn-profile-sync from the main machine in case > things weren't synched properly. That is always a good idea to make sure both sides are synced. HTH, daryl From Wes.Homard-roy at northampton.Ac.Uk Mon Feb 25 15:34:08 2008 From: Wes.Homard-roy at northampton.Ac.Uk (Homard-Roy Wes) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:34:08 +0000 Subject: [rhn-users] Critical system on RHN due to completed errataremaining at status "None" rather than "Completed"? Message-ID: Hi Daryl and thanks for your reply! -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Daryl Herzmann Sent: 25 February 2008 14:46 To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) Subject: Re: [rhn-users] Critical system on RHN due to completed errataremaining at status "None" rather than "Completed"? Hi Wes, On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Homard-Roy Wes wrote: >> I am trying to set up a new RHEL 5 system but according to RHN, my >> system is a critical system and is out of date. >Did you install RHEL 5 and then register it to RHN just now? Or has it >been registered for a while? Do you have auto-apply-errata checked on the >RHN website or yum-updatesd configured locally? I have just installed and registered RHEL 5 within the last week or two. I don't have auto-apply-errata checked on the RHN website as I had read that this wasn't a good idea... After reading your reply I have found yum-updatesd.conf which I haven't previously touched. It is currently: [main] # how often to check for new updates (in seconds) run_interval = 3600 # how often to allow checking on request (in seconds) updaterefresh = 600 # how to send notifications (valid: dbus, email, syslog) emit_via = dbus # automatically install updates do_update = no # automatically download updates do_download = no # automatically download deps of updates do_download_deps = no Should I change some of those "no"'s to "yes"'s and if so do I need to restart anything after editing it? >> If I click on "Critical Updates Available (update now)", I am taken to >> the list of relevant errata most of which have a status of "None" >> although sometimes a handful have a status of "Pending" or "Failed" if I >> have recently scheduled an update. However the errata with the "None" >> status are all ones which I have previously scheduled and which >> completed successfully according to the details tab of their individual >> errata update pages. Should these not be at a status of "Completed" now >> and therefore not still appearing in the list of errata which I still >> need to apply? >Unfortunately, you can't rely on RHN to automatically schedule errata for >application. You need to either setup yum-updatesd to automatically apply >new errata So do_update = yes? Is my problem that although I schedule the errata to be applied at the RHN end (and they appear to be scheduled and completed), they then get sent to my machine but are not then actually being installed at my end so when a check is next made with RHN it doesn't think I've got them yet? >or run 'yum -y update' from cron. If you are looking to get >your machine currently updated, you can run >yum -y update >from the command line. That should get your system in an updated state. Thanks very much - I'll try that asap! >HTH, > daryl _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users From akrherz at iastate.edu Mon Feb 25 15:54:17 2008 From: akrherz at iastate.edu (Daryl Herzmann) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:54:17 -0600 (CST) Subject: [rhn-users] Critical system on RHN due to completed errataremaining at status "None" rather than "Completed"? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Wes, > # automatically install updates > do_update = no > # automatically download updates > do_download = no > # automatically download deps of updates > do_download_deps = no > > Should I change some of those "no"'s to "yes"'s and if so do I need to > restart anything after editing it? Yes, you would want to change do_update for sure. Check out the man page for the configuration file: man 5 yum-updatesd.conf Yes, restarting is a good idea service yum-updatesd restart > Is my problem that although I schedule the errata to be applied at the > RHN end (and they appear to be scheduled and completed), they then get > sent to my machine but are not then actually being installed at my end > so when a check is next made with RHN it doesn't think I've got them > yet? You will want to check your system's event history out on the website and see why some packages failed. You can also look at /var/log/up2date on your local machine to see if any errors are appearing there. Sometimes, I have seen errors occur when you install RHEL5 Desktop+Workstation and then only subscribe the system to the RHEL5 Desktop channel on RHN. When the system goes to update, it can't find necessary packages due to not being subscribed to the proper channels. daryl From duffy at redhat.com Mon Feb 25 21:56:20 2008 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:56:20 -0500 Subject: [rhn-users] Software Content Management (Introducing Pulp) Message-ID: <47C33984.3020104@redhat.com> Hi folks, As some of you who have participated in them already know, over the past couple of years or so Red Hat has been conducting some studies on how folks manage their systems using the Red Hat Network and Satellite products. We've learned a lot about the processes many of you have established for managing your systems and the strengths and weaknesses of the RHN products in supporting those processes. In addition to this, it is also clear that the free and open source management tools available for Fedora, RHEL, and CentOS (as well as other *nixes) don't sufficiently cover some of the areas of need that the current Satellite product addresses. Over the past few weeks some Red Hat folks and Fedora community members have been working on a free and open source project that will not only attempt to fill one of the gaps in free & open source systems management tools, but also to take some of the things we've learned from talking with Satellite and RHN customers and improve upon how we could address one area of systems management. This project is called 'Pulp', and its scope is centered around the management of software content. From the Pulp Fedora project website [1]: "Pulp is an application for managing the software installed on your systems. Suppose you want to control what machines on your network get what software updates, to establish testing/stage repositories, to mirror 3rd party content, to create your own repositories, or to add new content to existing repositories. Pulp will provide an easy web, web-services, and command line interface for managing all of this." REPOSITORY CREATION AND MIRRORING MANAGEMENT To start, we were thinking that Pulp could be a way of improving upon the custom channel management capabilities of Satellite, using yum repositories instead of RHN channels. Last month Michael DeHaan hosted a discussion introducing Pulp at FUDCon in Raleigh [2]. What we have taken away from the participants of that session is that they would like to see less emphasis on system <=> content mapping, and would like tools that focus on mirroring contents from many different 'upstream' sources and organizing them neatly in one place. It could be kind of like mirror manager, except instead of managing the mirroring of a particular set of content across many sites, it would manage the mirroring of MANY different sets of content at ONE particular site. On top of this it could greatly simplify the creation and management of yum repositories from this mirrored content as well as from other local content sources. (This today has some annoying manual process involved.) CONTENT INVENTORY, ACCESS CONTROL, AND DELIVERY We have also thought about Pulp as a way of managing which content gets to which systems and maintaining an inventory of which content is which systems. For example, maybe using Pulp to get a list of which systems are allowed to connect to which repositories, and maybe on a more granular level, using Pulp to store black or whitelists of packages that the system is allowed to access. Or maybe using it to create a system whereby using some logical/policy statements you can create virtual yum repositories that compose content from many sources in a particular way and then contrl access to those. The group at FUDCon seemed to care less about content access control and delivery, seeming to prefer letting their configuration management systems (eg cfengine) handle content access and delivery to systems and having Pulp stop at providing yum repos for these configuration management tools to access. I do think, from talking with several different types of Satellite and RHN users, that some folks may still be interested in content access control, but at this point it seems that repository creation and mirroring management is one area that both groups of people would find great value in. DISCUSSION Many of the folks subscribed to these lists are seasoned Linux system engineers, system administrators, and/or release engineers for software content, so we would love to hear some of your thoughts on what problems areas you'd like to see addressed by free and open source management tools like Pulp. If you have any thoughts on the following topics or others that are related but maybe not mentioned here, please let's discuss them here and see if we figure out the best way to make Pulp useful for you!: - Do you host internal mirrors of external content? What kind of content? How many mirrors? Do you have mirrors available for multiple geographic locations within your organization? - How many different 'upstream' sources of content need to be made available for systems at your organization? Hardware drivers from hardware vendors? Operating systems from OS vendors or from FOSS repos? Non-FOSS proprietary applications from application vendors? In-house application/software development teams? - How often do you pull down content ('sync' maybe could be a term) from these different upstream content sources? - How do you organize all of the software content that is delivered to your systems right now? What are the strengths you've found to your approach today? What are the weaknesses you'd like to address? - How much customization/general 'mucking' do you do with the content you pull down from various sources? Are you more interested in simply making all the content available or do you have requirements for modifying/customizing it as well? - If you do customize the content, to what extent do you need to do this? Branding? Localization? Etc.? - How strict are your policies for which systems have access to which kind of content? Is access completely open, is access constrained by which system owners have purchased licenses/entitlements to which content? Is access constrained by security concerns? Is access constrained by stability concerns (e.g., production systems must never be able to have development level content deployed to them?) - What kind of requirements do you have for producing data about which systems had which content installed when, if any? - How many different environments do you manage content for? Do you manage content for development / qa / production environments? - How do you prefer to deploy content to systems? Do you prefer to have a software management tool to do that or do you prefer to tie this into a configuration management tool? - At what level of granularity do you perform software-management related tasks on your systems? For example, do you find yourself most often: - automatically selecting and deploying content to many systems at once in a uniform fashion - automatically selecting and deploying content to smaller groupings of systems with carefully defined templates - manually selecting and deploying content to many systems at once - manually selecting and deploying content to individual systems one-by-one What level of importance does each of these abilities have to you? SHAMELESS PLUG Pulp is an open project, stop by the mailing list (cc'ed :) ) to say hi! Feedback, bug reports, ideas, and patches are always welcome. :) Thanks, ~m and the Pulp Team :) [1] https://fedorahosted.org/pulp [2] Notes available here: https://fedorahosted.org/pulp/wiki/FudConOhEightNotes From Wes.Homard-roy at northampton.Ac.Uk Tue Feb 26 10:35:38 2008 From: Wes.Homard-roy at northampton.Ac.Uk (Homard-Roy Wes) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:35:38 +0000 Subject: [rhn-users] Critical system on RHN due to completederrataremaining at status "None" rather than "Completed"? Message-ID: Hi Daryl, Just wanted to say thanks so much for your help! A combination of editing yum-updatesd.conf and running yum -y update have resulted in the magic words "None of your systems are in a critical state." I really am very grateful - I foresee a steep learning curve ahead...! Wes From xenpal at upatras.gr Fri Feb 29 10:16:28 2008 From: xenpal at upatras.gr (Xenofontas) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:16:28 +0200 Subject: [rhn-users] Installing program Message-ID: <000101c87abc$25b55420$711ffc60$@gr> I have red hat linux 5 server and I want to install java. I downloaded from sun a file for installation which is a .bin file. Can someone tell me how I can install this file? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bda20 at cam.ac.uk Fri Feb 29 10:22:04 2008 From: bda20 at cam.ac.uk (Ben) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:22:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [rhn-users] Installing program In-Reply-To: <000101c87abc$25b55420$711ffc60$@gr> References: <000101c87abc$25b55420$711ffc60$@gr> Message-ID: On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Xenofontas wrote: > I have red hat linux 5 server and I want to install java. I downloaded > from sun a file for installation which is a .bin file. Can someone tell me > how I can install this file? chmod 755 .bin ./.bin (accept the license thingy) (allow the extracted RPM to install) Alternatively accept the license thingy, then hit Ctrl-C as soon as the RPM is extracted and install the extracted RPM at your leisure. Which is what I do. Ben -- Unix Support, MISD, University of Cambridge, England Plugger of wire, typer of keyboard, imparter of Clue Life Is Short. It's All Good. From Thomas.Ruckman at stoneridge.com Fri Feb 29 13:00:13 2008 From: Thomas.Ruckman at stoneridge.com (Ruckman, Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:00:13 -0500 Subject: [rhn-users] Installing program In-Reply-To: <000101c87abc$25b55420$711ffc60$@gr> Message-ID: <1CC1BEAE2F31C544A2F133CE94E6E82F0699D6@lexmail01.stoneridge.com> # chmod 755 java-xxx.bin # ./java-xxx.bin ________________________________ From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Xenofontas Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:16 AM To: rhn-users at redhat.com Subject: [rhn-users] Installing program I have red hat linux 5 server and I want to install java. I downloaded from sun a file for installation which is a .bin file. Can someone tell me how I can install this file? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: