From nico at altiva.fr Tue Jan 13 19:04:14 2009 From: nico at altiva.fr (NM) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:04:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [rhn-users] RHN website is slow, and session times out too fast Message-ID: I find the RHN network website quite a pain to use; it's very slow for me, and the unconfigurable session timeout is really annoying. I tried using an autorefresh extension to keep the session fresh but to no avail. This is esp. problematic as I often have to do some work in terminals, go to look something on the website and ... I have to log back in ... wait a good 10s ... forget where I was ... blam 5 minutes of concentration lost. Seriously, this is annoying. From akrherz at iastate.edu Tue Jan 13 19:41:57 2009 From: akrherz at iastate.edu (akrherz at iastate.edu) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:41:57 -0600 (CST) Subject: [rhn-users] RHN website is slow, and session times out too fast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, NM wrote: > I find the RHN network website quite a pain to use; it's very slow for > me, and the unconfigurable session timeout is really annoying. I tried > using an autorefresh extension to keep the session fresh but to no > avail. This is esp. problematic as I often have to do some work in > terminals, go to look something on the website and ... I have to log > back in ... wait a good 10s ... forget where I was ... blam 5 minutes of > concentration lost. > > Seriously, this is annoying. Me too :) One thing you can do to help your situation is to disable all of the front page widgets when you log in. That will speed up the login time considerably. With the widgets enabled, I was not even able to log in without the connection timing out :( https://rhn.redhat.com/rhn/account/UserPreferences.do daryl From mpelletier at intechjanus.com Fri Jan 16 14:43:56 2009 From: mpelletier at intechjanus.com (mpelletier) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:43:56 -0500 Subject: [rhn-users] Where is the package redhat-ds Message-ID: <20FA24BD-E76D-4539-A017-B5D96AE13900@intechjanus.com> Where can I find the package redhat-ds? I do not see the channel. MICHAEL PELLETIER SYSTEMS AND SECURITY, TEAM LEADER 525 Okeechobee Blvd. Suite 1800 West Palm Beach, FL 33401 Direct: 561-775-1164 Fax: 561-775-1168 EMAIL: mpelletier at intechjanus.com WEBSITE: www.intechjanus.com This message, including its attachments, contains information from INTECH Investment Management LLC or one of its affiliates which may be confidential and/or privileged. 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I do not see the channel. > > * > **MICHAEL PELLETIER > *SYSTEMS AND SECURITY, TEAM LEADER > > > > > 525 Okeechobee Blvd. Suite 1800 > West Palm Beach, FL 33401 > > > Direct: 561-775-1164 > Fax: 561-775-1168 > > > EMAIL: mpelletier at intechjanus.com > WEBSITE: www.intechjanus.com > > This message, including its attachments, contains information from INTECH > Investment Management LLC or one of its affiliates which may be confidential > and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message or > any attachment is strictly prohibited. If it has been sent to you in error, > please reply to advise the sender of the error and immediately delete this > message. Thank you > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > rhn-users mailing list > rhn-users at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJcKAbhwQhj8l1t/cRAmAGAKCQKwT7VXV4wVPoR2JVy357zx2nEACgsYpC BfY6N/Dzmr79W8q8plT/yBk= =sg4c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From inode0 at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 14:52:48 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:52:48 -0600 Subject: [rhn-users] Where is the package redhat-ds In-Reply-To: <20FA24BD-E76D-4539-A017-B5D96AE13900@intechjanus.com> References: <20FA24BD-E76D-4539-A017-B5D96AE13900@intechjanus.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:43 AM, mpelletier wrote: > Where can I find the package redhat-ds? I do not see the channel. It shows up after you buy entitlements for it. It is a layered product and is not available without additional entitlements. John From mpelletier at intechjanus.com Fri Jan 16 16:55:44 2009 From: mpelletier at intechjanus.com (mpelletier) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:55:44 -0500 Subject: [rhn-users] Where is the package redhat-ds In-Reply-To: References: <20FA24BD-E76D-4539-A017-B5D96AE13900@intechjanus.com> Message-ID: <2E7FE90B-7653-4638-BF52-1E27647E0147@intechjanus.com> Do you know the entitlement I need to purchase? MICHAEL PELLETIER SYSTEMS AND SECURITY, TEAM LEADER 525 Okeechobee Blvd. Suite 1800 West Palm Beach, FL 33401 Direct: 561-775-1164 Fax: 561-775-1168 EMAIL: mpelletier at intechjanus.com WEBSITE: www.intechjanus.com This message, including its attachments, contains information from INTECH Investment Management LLC or one of its affiliates which may be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If it has been sent to you in error, please reply to advise the sender of the error and immediately delete this message. Thank you On Jan 16, 2009, at 9:52 AM, inode0 wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:43 AM, mpelletier > wrote: >> Where can I find the package redhat-ds? I do not see the channel. > > It shows up after you buy entitlements for it. It is a layered product > and is not available without additional entitlements. > > John > > _______________________________________________ > rhn-users mailing list > rhn-users at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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MICHAEL PELLETIER SYSTEMS AND SECURITY, TEAM LEADER 525 Okeechobee Blvd. Suite 1800 West Palm Beach, FL 33401 Direct: 561-775-1164 Fax: 561-775-1168 EMAIL: mpelletier at intechjanus.com WEBSITE: www.intechjanus.com This message, including its attachments, contains information from INTECH Investment Management LLC or one of its affiliates which may be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If it has been sent to you in error, please reply to advise the sender of the error and immediately delete this message. Thank you On Jan 16, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Brandon Perkins wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Its in the Red Hat Directory Server 8/7.1 child channels. Those > channels are available under the base channels with a Red Hat > Directory > Server Software Channel Entitlement. > > Thanks. > Brandon > > mpelletier wrote: >> Where can I find the package redhat-ds? I do not see the channel. >> >> * >> **MICHAEL PELLETIER >> *SYSTEMS AND SECURITY, TEAM LEADER >> >> >> >> >> 525 Okeechobee Blvd. Suite 1800 >> West Palm Beach, FL 33401 >> >> >> Direct: 561-775-1164 >> Fax: 561-775-1168 >> >> >> EMAIL: mpelletier at intechjanus.com > > >> WEBSITE: www.intechjanus.com >> >> This message, including its attachments, contains information from >> INTECH >> Investment Management LLC or one of its affiliates which may be >> confidential >> and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are >> hereby >> notified that any dissemination, distribution or reproduction of >> this message or >> any attachment is strictly prohibited. If it has been sent to you >> in error, >> please reply to advise the sender of the error and immediately >> delete this >> message. Thank you >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rhn-users mailing list >> rhn-users at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFJcKAbhwQhj8l1t/cRAmAGAKCQKwT7VXV4wVPoR2JVy357zx2nEACgsYpC > BfY6N/Dzmr79W8q8plT/yBk= > =sg4c > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > rhn-users mailing list > rhn-users at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What is the procedure to purchase? > > * > **MICHAEL PELLETIER > *SYSTEMS AND SECURITY, TEAM LEADER > > > > > 525 Okeechobee Blvd. Suite 1800 > West Palm Beach, FL 33401 > > > Direct: 561-775-1164 > Fax: 561-775-1168 > > > EMAIL: mpelletier at intechjanus.com > WEBSITE: www.intechjanus.com > > This message, including its attachments, contains information from INTECH > Investment Management LLC or one of its affiliates which may be confidential > and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message or > any attachment is strictly prohibited. If it has been sent to you in error, > please reply to advise the sender of the error and immediately delete this > message. Thank you > > > On Jan 16, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Brandon Perkins wrote: > > Its in the Red Hat Directory Server 8/7.1 child channels. Those > channels are available under the base channels with a Red Hat Directory > Server Software Channel Entitlement. > > Thanks. > Brandon > > mpelletier wrote: >>>> Where can I find the package redhat-ds? I do not see the channel. >>>> >>>> * >>>> **MICHAEL PELLETIER >>>> *SYSTEMS AND SECURITY, TEAM LEADER >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 525 Okeechobee Blvd. Suite 1800 >>>> West Palm Beach, FL 33401 >>>> >>>> >>>> Direct: 561-775-1164 >>>> Fax: 561-775-1168 >>>> >>>> >>>> EMAIL: mpelletier at intechjanus.com >>>> WEBSITE: www.intechjanus.com >>>> >>>> This message, including its attachments, contains information from INTECH >>>> Investment Management LLC or one of its affiliates which may be confidential >>>> and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby >>>> notified that any dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message or >>>> any attachment is strictly prohibited. If it has been sent to you in error, >>>> please reply to advise the sender of the error and immediately delete this >>>> message. Thank you >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> rhn-users mailing list >>>> rhn-users at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users >> _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJcL4phwQhj8l1t/cRAhUBAJ0U1tsbYruzm/6vWF58GDHJWB4fhQCfRKu6 lqyWPfekPWqN4vkZ11hQDHY= =t4fx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From hphinizy at cisco.com Tue Jan 20 19:26:50 2009 From: hphinizy at cisco.com (Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco)) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:26:50 -0800 Subject: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? In-Reply-To: <1b1dc9ad0812030132q504fe4f3k97165c401b63809f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1b1dc9ad0812030132q504fe4f3k97165c401b63809f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A73B@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> I cannot access it via up2date and earlier I could not even hit the site. Please advise, Harison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ben.kevan at gmail.com Tue Jan 20 19:29:40 2009 From: ben.kevan at gmail.com (Ben Kevan) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:29:40 -0800 Subject: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? In-Reply-To: <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A73B@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> References: <1b1dc9ad0812030132q504fe4f3k97165c401b63809f@mail.gmail.com> <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A73B@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:26:50 -0800, Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco) wrote: > I cannot access it via up2date and earlier I could not even hit the > site. > > > Please advise, > > > Harison > RHN Has been horrible for me lately. Today much the same, but I thought it was my LAN since many people were streaming the inaguration.. but nope.. still having problems. -- I say never be complete. I say stop being perfect. I say let's evolve. Let the chips fall where they may. -Fight Club From hphinizy at cisco.com Tue Jan 20 19:31:27 2009 From: hphinizy at cisco.com (Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco)) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:31:27 -0800 Subject: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? In-Reply-To: References: <1b1dc9ad0812030132q504fe4f3k97165c401b63809f@mail.gmail.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A73B@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A752@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> Agreed--horrible is putting it lightly... I am having serious concerns about redhat's ability to service a critical aspect of their business model. My 2 -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Ben Kevan Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:30 AM To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) Subject: Re: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:26:50 -0800, Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco) wrote: > I cannot access it via up2date and earlier I could not even hit the > site. > > > Please advise, > > > Harison > RHN Has been horrible for me lately. Today much the same, but I thought it was my LAN since many people were streaming the inaguration.. but nope.. still having problems. -- I say never be complete. I say stop being perfect. I say let's evolve. Let the chips fall where they may. -Fight Club _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users From mh1272 at gmail.com Tue Jan 20 21:54:52 2009 From: mh1272 at gmail.com (hike) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:54:52 -0500 Subject: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? In-Reply-To: <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A752@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> References: <1b1dc9ad0812030132q504fe4f3k97165c401b63809f@mail.gmail.com> <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A73B@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A752@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: We haven't had any major issues. We run up2date in the middle of the night. All security-type updates (the most important for us) are usually applied before we receive the RH email. Remember, the Obamanation started today with all bandwidth going to the Inauguration and related stories. The news said that cell phone cartage in DC and surrounding areas stopped because of the volumes. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco) < hphinizy at cisco.com> wrote: > Agreed--horrible is putting it lightly... I am having serious concerns > about redhat's ability to service a critical aspect of their business model. > > My 2 > > -----Original Message----- > From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] > On Behalf Of Ben Kevan > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:30 AM > To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) > Subject: Re: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? > > On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:26:50 -0800, Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at > Cisco) wrote: > > > I cannot access it via up2date and earlier I could not even hit the > > site. > > > > > > Please advise, > > > > > > Harison > > > > RHN Has been horrible for me lately. Today much the same, but I thought it > was my LAN since many people were streaming the inaguration.. but nope.. > still having problems. > > -- > I say never be complete. I say stop being perfect. I say let's evolve. Let > the chips fall where they may. -Fight Club > > > _______________________________________________ > rhn-users mailing list > rhn-users at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users > > _______________________________________________ > rhn-users mailing list > rhn-users at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter at simons-rock.edu Tue Jan 20 21:58:21 2009 From: peter at simons-rock.edu (Peter C. Lai) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:58:21 -0500 Subject: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? In-Reply-To: References: <1b1dc9ad0812030132q504fe4f3k97165c401b63809f@mail.gmail.com> <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A73B@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A752@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: <20090120215821.GI58991@cesium.hyperfine.info> If you are running a large RH installation with (desktop client farm, for example), might be useful to license a satellite server. It only has to sync once for your installation and then have the clients sync to it over the LAN. (basically the RH version of a WSUS server). On 2009-01-20 04:54:52PM -0500, hike wrote: > We haven't had any major issues. > > We run up2date in the middle of the night. > > All security-type updates (the most important for us) are usually applied > before we receive the RH email. > > > Remember, the Obamanation started today with all bandwidth going to the > Inauguration and related stories. The news said that cell phone cartage in > DC and surrounding areas stopped because of the volumes. > > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco) < > hphinizy at cisco.com> wrote: > > > Agreed--horrible is putting it lightly... I am having serious concerns > > about redhat's ability to service a critical aspect of their business model. > > > > My 2 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] > > On Behalf Of Ben Kevan > > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:30 AM > > To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) > > Subject: Re: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? > > > > On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:26:50 -0800, Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at > > Cisco) wrote: > > > > > I cannot access it via up2date and earlier I could not even hit the > > > site. > > > > > > > > > Please advise, > > > > > > > > > Harison > > > > > > > RHN Has been horrible for me lately. Today much the same, but I thought it > > was my LAN since many people were streaming the inaguration.. but nope.. > > still having problems. > > > > -- > > I say never be complete. I say stop being perfect. I say let's evolve. Let > > the chips fall where they may. -Fight Club > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > rhn-users mailing list > > rhn-users at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > > rhn-users mailing list > > rhn-users at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users > > > _______________________________________________ > rhn-users mailing list > rhn-users at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users -- =========================================================== Peter C. Lai | Bard College at Simon's Rock Systems Administrator | 84 Alford Rd. Information Technology Svcs. | Gt. Barrington, MA 01230 USA peter AT simons-rock.edu | (413) 528-7428 =========================================================== From ben.kevan at gmail.com Tue Jan 20 22:02:37 2009 From: ben.kevan at gmail.com (Ben Kevan) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:02:37 -0800 Subject: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? In-Reply-To: References: <1b1dc9ad0812030132q504fe4f3k97165c401b63809f@mail.gmail.com> <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A73B@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A752@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:54:52 -0800, hike wrote: > We haven't had any major issues. > > We run up2date in the middle of the night. > > All security-type updates (the most important for us) are usually applied > before we receive the RH email. > > > Remember, the Obamanation started today with all bandwidth going to the > Inauguration and related stories. The news said that cell phone cartage > in > DC and surrounding areas stopped because of the volumes. > Obamanation? I thought it was the Obamageddon? As for when / how etc etc. The point of the matter is RH should be able to keep up with Business demand since they are providing a business subscription service. #1 recently RHN has been very spotty #2 Few months ago we had RHN downtime due to "infiltrated servers" #3 having a local satalitte / mrepo server shouldn't even come up in the discussion, as it should be a reliable service (although I do agree that you should have a staging server locally). -- I say never be complete. I say stop being perfect. I say let's evolve. Let the chips fall where they may. -Fight Club From hphinizy at cisco.com Tue Jan 20 22:10:28 2009 From: hphinizy at cisco.com (Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco)) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:10:28 -0800 Subject: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? In-Reply-To: References: <1b1dc9ad0812030132q504fe4f3k97165c401b63809f@mail.gmail.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A73B@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A752@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8A0@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> I agree with the satellite argument, but to take 45 minutes to update one AS4 box is incredible... My connection is not saturated at all... Something up the stream is the lag Harison -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Ben Kevan Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:03 PM To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) Subject: Re: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:54:52 -0800, hike wrote: > We haven't had any major issues. > > We run up2date in the middle of the night. > > All security-type updates (the most important for us) are usually applied > before we receive the RH email. > > > Remember, the Obamanation started today with all bandwidth going to the > Inauguration and related stories. The news said that cell phone cartage > in > DC and surrounding areas stopped because of the volumes. > Obamanation? I thought it was the Obamageddon? As for when / how etc etc. The point of the matter is RH should be able to keep up with Business demand since they are providing a business subscription service. #1 recently RHN has been very spotty #2 Few months ago we had RHN downtime due to "infiltrated servers" #3 having a local satalitte / mrepo server shouldn't even come up in the discussion, as it should be a reliable service (although I do agree that you should have a staging server locally). -- I say never be complete. I say stop being perfect. I say let's evolve. Let the chips fall where they may. -Fight Club _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users From hphinizy at cisco.com Tue Jan 20 22:12:34 2009 From: hphinizy at cisco.com (Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco)) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:12:34 -0800 Subject: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? In-Reply-To: <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8A0@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> References: <1b1dc9ad0812030132q504fe4f3k97165c401b63809f@mail.gmail.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A73B@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A752@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8A0@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8A9@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> As an example... 1 hour into the download of the latest rpms up2date dies: Error communicating with the server. The message was: Service Temporarily Unavailable Perhaps I ought open a ticket rather than rant :). H -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco) Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:10 PM To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) Subject: RE: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? I agree with the satellite argument, but to take 45 minutes to update one AS4 box is incredible... My connection is not saturated at all... Something up the stream is the lag Harison -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Ben Kevan Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:03 PM To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) Subject: Re: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:54:52 -0800, hike wrote: > We haven't had any major issues. > > We run up2date in the middle of the night. > > All security-type updates (the most important for us) are usually applied > before we receive the RH email. > > > Remember, the Obamanation started today with all bandwidth going to the > Inauguration and related stories. The news said that cell phone cartage > in > DC and surrounding areas stopped because of the volumes. > Obamanation? I thought it was the Obamageddon? As for when / how etc etc. The point of the matter is RH should be able to keep up with Business demand since they are providing a business subscription service. #1 recently RHN has been very spotty #2 Few months ago we had RHN downtime due to "infiltrated servers" #3 having a local satalitte / mrepo server shouldn't even come up in the discussion, as it should be a reliable service (although I do agree that you should have a staging server locally). -- I say never be complete. I say stop being perfect. I say let's evolve. Let the chips fall where they may. -Fight Club _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users From RJM002 at shsu.edu Tue Jan 20 22:14:42 2009 From: RJM002 at shsu.edu (Marti, Rob) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:14:42 -0600 Subject: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? In-Reply-To: <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8A9@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> References: <1b1dc9ad0812030132q504fe4f3k97165c401b63809f@mail.gmail.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A73B@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A752@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8A0@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8A9@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: <8FAC1E47484E43469AA28DBF35C955E420530C9027@EXMBX.SHSU.EDU> Maybe it?s the fact that RHEL5.3 released today? Rob Marti -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco) Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:13 PM To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) Subject: RE: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? As an example... 1 hour into the download of the latest rpms up2date dies: Error communicating with the server. The message was: Service Temporarily Unavailable Perhaps I ought open a ticket rather than rant :). H -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco) Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:10 PM To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) Subject: RE: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? I agree with the satellite argument, but to take 45 minutes to update one AS4 box is incredible... My connection is not saturated at all... Something up the stream is the lag Harison -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Ben Kevan Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:03 PM To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) Subject: Re: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:54:52 -0800, hike wrote: > We haven't had any major issues. > > We run up2date in the middle of the night. > > All security-type updates (the most important for us) are usually applied > before we receive the RH email. > > > Remember, the Obamanation started today with all bandwidth going to the > Inauguration and related stories. The news said that cell phone cartage > in > DC and surrounding areas stopped because of the volumes. > Obamanation? I thought it was the Obamageddon? As for when / how etc etc. The point of the matter is RH should be able to keep up with Business demand since they are providing a business subscription service. #1 recently RHN has been very spotty #2 Few months ago we had RHN downtime due to "infiltrated servers" #3 having a local satalitte / mrepo server shouldn't even come up in the discussion, as it should be a reliable service (although I do agree that you should have a staging server locally). -- I say never be complete. I say stop being perfect. I say let's evolve. Let the chips fall where they may. -Fight Club _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users From hphinizy at cisco.com Tue Jan 20 22:18:34 2009 From: hphinizy at cisco.com (Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco)) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:18:34 -0800 Subject: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? In-Reply-To: <8FAC1E47484E43469AA28DBF35C955E420530C9027@EXMBX.SHSU.EDU> References: <1b1dc9ad0812030132q504fe4f3k97165c401b63809f@mail.gmail.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A73B@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A752@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8A0@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8A9@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> <8FAC1E47484E43469AA28DBF35C955E420530C9027@EXMBX.SHSU.EDU> Message-ID: <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8B6@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> Is anyone else having issue when they run up2date -u or yum update? The 5.3 point is a good one... I did not connect the two. H -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Marti, Rob Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:15 PM To: 'Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com)' Subject: RE: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? Maybe it?s the fact that RHEL5.3 released today? Rob Marti -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco) Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:13 PM To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) Subject: RE: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? As an example... 1 hour into the download of the latest rpms up2date dies: Error communicating with the server. The message was: Service Temporarily Unavailable Perhaps I ought open a ticket rather than rant :). H -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco) Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:10 PM To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) Subject: RE: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? I agree with the satellite argument, but to take 45 minutes to update one AS4 box is incredible... My connection is not saturated at all... Something up the stream is the lag Harison -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Ben Kevan Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:03 PM To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) Subject: Re: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:54:52 -0800, hike wrote: > We haven't had any major issues. > > We run up2date in the middle of the night. > > All security-type updates (the most important for us) are usually applied > before we receive the RH email. > > > Remember, the Obamanation started today with all bandwidth going to the > Inauguration and related stories. The news said that cell phone cartage > in > DC and surrounding areas stopped because of the volumes. > Obamanation? I thought it was the Obamageddon? As for when / how etc etc. The point of the matter is RH should be able to keep up with Business demand since they are providing a business subscription service. #1 recently RHN has been very spotty #2 Few months ago we had RHN downtime due to "infiltrated servers" #3 having a local satalitte / mrepo server shouldn't even come up in the discussion, as it should be a reliable service (although I do agree that you should have a staging server locally). -- I say never be complete. I say stop being perfect. I say let's evolve. Let the chips fall where they may. -Fight Club _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users From RJM002 at shsu.edu Tue Jan 20 22:20:56 2009 From: RJM002 at shsu.edu (Marti, Rob) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:20:56 -0600 Subject: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? In-Reply-To: <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8B6@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> References: <1b1dc9ad0812030132q504fe4f3k97165c401b63809f@mail.gmail.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A73B@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A752@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8A0@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8A9@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> <8FAC1E47484E43469AA28DBF35C955E420530C9027@EXMBX.SHSU.EDU> <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8B6@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: <8FAC1E47484E43469AA28DBF35C955E420530C902A@EXMBX.SHSU.EDU> Everyone is. New releases always flood the intertubes. Let things settle down a bit before venting about download speeds. Rob Marti -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco) Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:19 PM To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) Subject: RE: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? Is anyone else having issue when they run up2date -u or yum update? The 5.3 point is a good one... I did not connect the two. H -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Marti, Rob Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:15 PM To: 'Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com)' Subject: RE: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? Maybe it?s the fact that RHEL5.3 released today? Rob Marti -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco) Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:13 PM To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) Subject: RE: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? As an example... 1 hour into the download of the latest rpms up2date dies: Error communicating with the server. The message was: Service Temporarily Unavailable Perhaps I ought open a ticket rather than rant :). H -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco) Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:10 PM To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) Subject: RE: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? I agree with the satellite argument, but to take 45 minutes to update one AS4 box is incredible... My connection is not saturated at all... Something up the stream is the lag Harison -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Ben Kevan Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:03 PM To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) Subject: Re: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:54:52 -0800, hike wrote: > We haven't had any major issues. > > We run up2date in the middle of the night. > > All security-type updates (the most important for us) are usually applied > before we receive the RH email. > > > Remember, the Obamanation started today with all bandwidth going to the > Inauguration and related stories. The news said that cell phone cartage > in > DC and surrounding areas stopped because of the volumes. > Obamanation? I thought it was the Obamageddon? As for when / how etc etc. The point of the matter is RH should be able to keep up with Business demand since they are providing a business subscription service. #1 recently RHN has been very spotty #2 Few months ago we had RHN downtime due to "infiltrated servers" #3 having a local satalitte / mrepo server shouldn't even come up in the discussion, as it should be a reliable service (although I do agree that you should have a staging server locally). -- I say never be complete. I say stop being perfect. I say let's evolve. Let the chips fall where they may. -Fight Club _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users From hphinizy at cisco.com Tue Jan 20 22:26:11 2009 From: hphinizy at cisco.com (Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco)) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:26:11 -0800 Subject: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? In-Reply-To: <8FAC1E47484E43469AA28DBF35C955E420530C902A@EXMBX.SHSU.EDU> References: <1b1dc9ad0812030132q504fe4f3k97165c401b63809f@mail.gmail.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A73B@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A752@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8A0@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8A9@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com><8FAC1E47484E43469AA28DBF35C955E420530C9027@EXMBX.SHSU.EDU><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8B6@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> <8FAC1E47484E43469AA28DBF35C955E420530C902A@EXMBX.SHSU.EDU> Message-ID: <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8C8@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> To be fair, I am not venting--I am inquiring about a service that my company pays for and is currently not performing. I had scheduled maintenance that is now delayed as a result of this issue. I will open the appropriate ticket rather than burden the list any further--my goal here was to gain consensus before I open the ticket with RH. Regards, Harison -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Marti, Rob Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:21 PM To: 'Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com)' Subject: RE: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? Everyone is. New releases always flood the intertubes. Let things settle down a bit before venting about download speeds. Rob Marti -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco) Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:19 PM To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) Subject: RE: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? Is anyone else having issue when they run up2date -u or yum update? The 5.3 point is a good one... I did not connect the two. H -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Marti, Rob Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:15 PM To: 'Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com)' Subject: RE: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? Maybe it?s the fact that RHEL5.3 released today? Rob Marti -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco) Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:13 PM To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) Subject: RE: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? As an example... 1 hour into the download of the latest rpms up2date dies: Error communicating with the server. The message was: Service Temporarily Unavailable Perhaps I ought open a ticket rather than rant :). H -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco) Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:10 PM To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) Subject: RE: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? I agree with the satellite argument, but to take 45 minutes to update one AS4 box is incredible... My connection is not saturated at all... Something up the stream is the lag Harison -----Original Message----- From: rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:rhn-users-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Ben Kevan Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:03 PM To: Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com) Subject: Re: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:54:52 -0800, hike wrote: > We haven't had any major issues. > > We run up2date in the middle of the night. > > All security-type updates (the most important for us) are usually applied > before we receive the RH email. > > > Remember, the Obamanation started today with all bandwidth going to the > Inauguration and related stories. The news said that cell phone cartage > in > DC and surrounding areas stopped because of the volumes. > Obamanation? I thought it was the Obamageddon? As for when / how etc etc. The point of the matter is RH should be able to keep up with Business demand since they are providing a business subscription service. #1 recently RHN has been very spotty #2 Few months ago we had RHN downtime due to "infiltrated servers" #3 having a local satalitte / mrepo server shouldn't even come up in the discussion, as it should be a reliable service (although I do agree that you should have a staging server locally). -- I say never be complete. I say stop being perfect. I say let's evolve. Let the chips fall where they may. -Fight Club _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list rhn-users at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users From akrherz at iastate.edu Tue Jan 20 22:28:33 2009 From: akrherz at iastate.edu (akrherz at iastate.edu) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:28:33 -0600 (CST) Subject: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? In-Reply-To: <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8C8@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> References: <1b1dc9ad0812030132q504fe4f3k97165c401b63809f@mail.gmail.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A73B@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A752@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8A0@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8A9@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com><8FAC1E47484E43469AA28DBF35C955E420530C9027@EXMBX.SHSU.EDU><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8B6@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> <8FAC1E47484E43469AA28DBF35C955E420530C902A@EXMBX.SHSU.EDU> <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A8C8@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jan 2009, Harrison Phinizy -X (hphinizy - at Cisco) wrote: > To be fair, I am not venting--I am inquiring about a service that my > company pays for and is currently not performing. I had scheduled > maintenance that is now delayed as a result of this issue. I will open > the appropriate ticket rather than burden the list any further--my goal > here was to gain consensus before I open the ticket with RH. You could ask Red Hat why they continue to fail to notify users of outages like this one on the rhn-outage-list https://www.redhat.com/archives/rhn-outage-list/ daryl From pete at chemistry.montana.edu Tue Jan 20 22:07:18 2009 From: pete at chemistry.montana.edu (Pete Masse) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:07:18 -0700 Subject: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? References: <1b1dc9ad0812030132q504fe4f3k97165c401b63809f@mail.gmail.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A73B@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com><38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A752@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: I just updated my machine last hour and had no problems. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Kevan" To: "Discussions about Red Hat Network (rhn.redhat.com)" Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? > On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:54:52 -0800, hike wrote: > >> We haven't had any major issues. >> >> We run up2date in the middle of the night. >> >> All security-type updates (the most important for us) are usually applied >> before we receive the RH email. >> >> >> Remember, the Obamanation started today with all bandwidth going to the >> Inauguration and related stories. The news said that cell phone cartage >> in >> DC and surrounding areas stopped because of the volumes. >> > > Obamanation? I thought it was the Obamageddon? > As for when / how etc etc. The point of the matter is RH should be able to > keep up with Business demand since they are providing a business > subscription service. > #1 recently RHN has been very spotty > #2 Few months ago we had RHN downtime due to "infiltrated servers" > #3 having a local satalitte / mrepo server shouldn't even come up in the > discussion, as it should be a reliable service (although I do agree that > you should have a staging server locally). > > > -- > I say never be complete. I say stop being perfect. I say let's evolve. Let > the chips fall where they may. -Fight Club > > > _______________________________________________ > rhn-users mailing list > rhn-users at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users > From smithj at alaska.edu Tue Jan 20 23:54:42 2009 From: smithj at alaska.edu (Jonathan Smith) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:54:42 -0900 Subject: [rhn-users] Is RHN down now? In-Reply-To: <20090120215821.GI58991@cesium.hyperfine.info> References: <1b1dc9ad0812030132q504fe4f3k97165c401b63809f@mail.gmail.com> <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A73B@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> <38C76C4CBEC69F4C9971F08D00FA09920873A752@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> <20090120215821.GI58991@cesium.hyperfine.info> Message-ID: <49766442.20400@alaska.edu> Peter C. Lai wrote: > If you are running a large RH installation with (desktop client farm, > for example), might be useful to license a satellite server. It only > has to sync once for your installation and then have the clients sync > to it over the LAN. (basically the RH version of a WSUS server). That doesn't always help... [root at mysatellite ~]# satellite-sync 14:37:47 Red Hat Network Satellite - live synchronization 14:37:47 url: https://satellite.rhn.redhat.com 14:37:47 debug/output level: 1 14:37:59 db: rhnsat/@rhnsat [snip] 14:43:00 1/636 Fetch successful: libibmad-1.2.1-1.el5.i386.rpm (46229 bytes) 14:44:03 2/636 Fetch successful: redhat-release-notes-5Server-25.x86_64.rpm (4709492 bytes) 14:44:06 3/636 Fetch successful: net-snmp-perl-5.3.2.2-5.el5.x86_64.rpm (199911 bytes) 14:44:08 4/636 Fetch successful: compat-dapl-devel-2.0.13-4.el5.i386.rpm (30851 bytes) 14:47:17 ERROR: http error code :502; fault code: 0; +++ sending log as an email +++ SYNC ERROR: unhandled exception occurred: (Check logs/email for potentially more detail) Oh well. I guess I'll have to wait to get shiny 5.3 goodness. :) smithj -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From nico at altiva.fr Thu Jan 22 15:25:07 2009 From: nico at altiva.fr (NM) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [rhn-users] Re: RHN website is slow, and session times out too fast References: Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:07:10 +0000, NM wrote: > WTF are you doing, RedHat? Looks like this might be due to this: http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/docs/DOC-15522 However I have experienced such slowness before Jan 20. From nico at altiva.fr Mon Jan 26 12:55:53 2009 From: nico at altiva.fr (NM) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [rhn-users] Re: RHN website is slow, and session times out too fast References: Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:25:07 +0000, NM wrote: > Looks like this might be due to this: > > http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/docs/DOC-15522 > > However I have experienced such slowness before Jan 20. It's a bit faster now, but still a PITA to use. It takes over 20s to log in, and just as long to display a particular machine's page. From duffy at redhat.com Mon Jan 26 18:28:51 2009 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:28:51 -0500 Subject: [rhn-users] Re: RHN website is slow, and session times out too fast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <497E00E3.2020904@redhat.com> Hi Nico, NM wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:25:07 +0000, NM wrote: > >> Looks like this might be due to this: >> >> http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/docs/DOC-15522 >> >> However I have experienced such slowness before Jan 20. > > It's a bit faster now, but still a PITA to use. It takes over 20s to log > in, and just as long to display a particular machine's page. You are indeed correct that the slowness you have been experiencing recently is related to the outage announcement you referenced. I believe the slowness was due in part to the recent release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.3 - I believe that the initial demand for this release exceeded expectations, unfortunately, so we could not anticipate and warn you folks of the problem ahead of time (sorry, Daryl :( ). Therefore, I sincerely apologize for any inconvenience the resulting slowness may have caused you and your organization. That being said, you should not be continuing to experience slowness -- it has already been addressed. It should not take you over 20 seconds to log in, for example; this is not typical for an RHN log in. (I think someone may have already suggested this in the thread, but by disabling widgets on the "Your RHN" front page, you can speed up log in considerable. The controls to do this are in the preferences page under the top-level "Your RHN" navigation.) You do know that this list isn't an official avenue for customer support, right? :) Did you call into customer service with your login / account number and let them know about the slowness you are experiencing with logins and system details page displays? If not, I strongly recommend that you do so if you have not already; logging the issues you experience this way can ensure that your issue is tracked properly and that someone looks into the problem. There may be something particular to your account that is causing the issue and there are a few things customer support can walk you through to try to diagnose the issue. We do really appreciate these issue reports because it may alert us to issues that, once resolved, can help us improve the RHN service for everyone. I hope this information helps. If you have any issues getting in touch with customer support and/or experience issues in having your slowness issues investigated, please feel free to contact me directly (duffy at redhat dot com) and I would be happy to try to help. ~m --- M?ir?n Duffy Sr. Interaction Designer Red Hat, Inc. :: Westford MA USA From inode0 at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 18:51:57 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:51:57 -0600 Subject: [rhn-users] Re: RHN website is slow, and session times out too fast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 6:55 AM, NM wrote: > It's a bit faster now, but still a PITA to use. It takes over 20s to log > in, and just as long to display a particular machine's page. I just timed my first login after reading this, 150 seconds on the button from clicking the login button to getting off the login page. I don't disable all the stuff on the login page but even if I were to it would still be slow. I've just accepted it as the way it is going to be. John From akrherz at iastate.edu Mon Jan 26 19:56:36 2009 From: akrherz at iastate.edu (akrherz at iastate.edu) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:56:36 -0600 (CST) Subject: [rhn-users] Re: RHN website is slow, and session times out too fast In-Reply-To: <497E00E3.2020904@redhat.com> References: <497E00E3.2020904@redhat.com> Message-ID: Hi M?ir?n, On Mon, 26 Jan 2009, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > I believe the slowness was due in part to the recent release of Red Hat > Enterprise Linux 5.3 - I believe that the initial demand for this > release exceeded expectations, unfortunately, so we could not anticipate > and warn you folks of the problem ahead of time (sorry, Daryl :( > ). My comment was in reference to the lack of rhn-outage-list notification during the outage. At the time I made the comment, RHN hosted had been mostly down for most of the afternoon. The outage notification did not come until nearly 24 hours of downtime had occurred. My humble suggestion would be to fire an outage notification after an hour of downtime? At least keep folks in the loop on this stuff... Currently, non of my auto-errata systems have yet to have RHEL 5.3 fully scheduled. The async errata released on the 22nd haven't been hit yet by task-o-matic (or whatever it is called now). I have had 3 support tickets opened on scheduling issues in the past 2 years which have included a number of bugzilla tickets. The last of which is here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454053 The follow up rhn-outage email http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhn-outage-list/2009-January/msg00001.html states this: "Scheduling of Auto Updates has resumed as expected; individual updates will be issued over time. RHN Hosted is now performing at expected levels." Is there a webpage that details what these expected levels are? > I hope this information helps. If you have any issues getting in touch > with customer support and/or experience issues in having your slowness > issues investigated, please feel free to contact me directly (duffy at > redhat dot com) and I would be happy to try to help. You continue to go above and beyond here with RHN hosted. I really wish others at Red Hat shared your commitment for RHN hosted. daryl From duffy at redhat.com Mon Jan 26 21:28:48 2009 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:28:48 -0500 Subject: [rhn-users] Re: RHN website is slow, and session times out too fast In-Reply-To: References: <497E00E3.2020904@redhat.com> Message-ID: <497E2B10.10903@redhat.com> Hey Daryl, You caught me :) akrherz at iastate.edu wrote: > Hi M?ir?n, > > On Mon, 26 Jan 2009, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> I believe the slowness was due in part to the recent release of Red >> Hat Enterprise Linux 5.3 - I believe that the initial demand for this >> release exceeded expectations, unfortunately, so we could not >> anticipate and warn you folks of the problem ahead of time (sorry, >> Daryl :( >> ). > > My comment was in reference to the lack of rhn-outage-list notification > during the outage. It may have not been immediately apparent that the problem would be long-lived. Looking at the outage page [1], it looks like we try to notify users about long-term unexpected outages within "12 hours or as soon as possible." 12 hours seems reasonable to me with the understanding that it may take some time for problems to be initially identified and it may not be clear right away how long term an issue will be, depending on the nature of the issue (is it a bandwidth issue? an application bug? a deployment error? a network problem? etc. Depending on which type it is it may or may not be quickly resolvable.) 24 hours is definitely a while to get an official notice though, so I do apologize in the delay in Red Hat's sending that out and hopefully we'll do better next time (of course, hopefully, there isn't a next time!). It definitely helps to hear from our users when you are experiencing degradation in service though, so thank you to everyone who did call or email in to let us know. > Is there a webpage that details what these expected levels are? If there was it would probably be linked from there, so I don't think there is. If it is something you'd like to see you could file a request with customer service for it. In either case, though, I do think you're aware that your organization's RHN account is a bit of a special case and I believe we've talked about that before. RHN may well be performing at expected levels for the vast majority of accounts. >> I hope this information helps. If you have any issues getting in touch >> with customer support and/or experience issues in having your slowness >> issues investigated, please feel free to contact me directly (duffy at >> redhat dot com) and I would be happy to try to help. > > You continue to go above and beyond here with RHN hosted. I really wish > others at Red Hat shared your commitment for RHN hosted. There are quite a few people at Red Hat with a deep commitment to RHN hosted and they are awesome individuals; they are likely too busy to be chatting on mailing lists ;-) Speaking of which I have some mockups to get back to ^_^ ~m [1] https://rhn.redhat.com/rhn/help/outage-policy.jsp From pete at chemistry.montana.edu Tue Jan 27 06:22:53 2009 From: pete at chemistry.montana.edu (Pete Masse) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:22:53 -0700 Subject: [rhn-users] uninstalling xen and libvirt Message-ID: <4eb867660901262222v472fcb0ja12dce556d68c46@mail.gmail.com> I have xen and libvirtd installed on my machine but have no intention of using xen virtualization on this server. When shutting them down, libvir complains about every two minutes that it can't find the network. Could xen and libvirt be safely uninstalled without breaking anything? Pete -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nico at altiva.fr Tue Jan 27 14:22:08 2009 From: nico at altiva.fr (NM) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:22:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [rhn-users] Re: RHN website is slow, and session times out too fast References: <497E00E3.2020904@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:28:51 -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > You do know that this list isn't an official avenue for customer > support, right? Did you call into customer service with your login / > account number and let them know about the slowness you are experiencing > with logins and system details page displays? If not, I strongly > recommend that you do so if you have not already; logging the issues you > experience this way can ensure that your issue is tracked properly and > that someone looks into the problem. Thanks, yes I did; but I thought it had gone unanswered because I was expecting an email to be sent upon getting a reply, while in fact it had been answered promptly. Anyway, it appears our problem lies with the festering pile of junk that is the Microsoft ISA proxy we have to use. I'm gonna go ahead and curse the b****** in charge of that *******. Sorry for bothering you. From nico at altiva.fr Tue Jan 27 14:26:26 2009 From: nico at altiva.fr (NM) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:26:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [rhn-users] Re: RHN website is slow, and session times out too fast References: <497E00E3.2020904@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:28:51 -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > That being said, you should not be continuing to experience slowness -- > it has already been addressed. It should not take you over 20 seconds to > log in, for example; this is not typical for an RHN log in Since I have your attention: is there a way to lengthen the session expiration time? The typical use of RHN is such that you just go back there once every so often, and having to log back in, even with a functioning connection, is a pain. It serves no security purpose, since I (and most users I can imagine) have the password recorded in Firefox's password database. From duffy at redhat.com Tue Jan 27 14:46:48 2009 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:46:48 -0500 Subject: [rhn-users] Re: RHN website is slow, and session times out too fast In-Reply-To: References: <497E00E3.2020904@redhat.com> Message-ID: <497F1E58.8090605@redhat.com> NM wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:28:51 -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> That being said, you should not be continuing to experience slowness -- >> it has already been addressed. It should not take you over 20 seconds to >> log in, for example; this is not typical for an RHN log in > > Since I have your attention: is there a way to lengthen the session > expiration time? The typical use of RHN is such that you just go back > there once every so often, and having to log back in, even with a > functioning connection, is a pain. It serves no security purpose, since I > (and most users I can imagine) have the password recorded in Firefox's > password database. We've gotten a number of complaints about this recently and I do think the issue is being investigated, but I will check into it to make sure and follow up with you. ~m From duffy at redhat.com Tue Jan 27 14:47:11 2009 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:47:11 -0500 Subject: [rhn-users] Re: RHN website is slow, and session times out too fast In-Reply-To: References: <497E00E3.2020904@redhat.com> Message-ID: <497F1E6F.6080706@redhat.com> NM wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:28:51 -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> You do know that this list isn't an official avenue for customer >> support, right? Did you call into customer service with your login / >> account number and let them know about the slowness you are experiencing >> with logins and system details page displays? If not, I strongly >> recommend that you do so if you have not already; logging the issues you >> experience this way can ensure that your issue is tracked properly and >> that someone looks into the problem. > > Thanks, yes I did; but I thought it had gone unanswered because I was > expecting an email to be sent upon getting a reply, while in fact it had > been answered promptly. > > Anyway, it appears our problem lies with the festering pile of junk that > is the Microsoft ISA proxy we have to use. I'm gonna go ahead and curse > the b****** in charge of that *******. Hehe > Sorry for bothering you. Not a bother at all :) ~m From bperkins at redhat.com Tue Jan 27 15:23:51 2009 From: bperkins at redhat.com (Brandon Perkins) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:23:51 -0500 Subject: [rhn-users] uninstalling xen and libvirt In-Reply-To: <4eb867660901262222v472fcb0ja12dce556d68c46@mail.gmail.com> References: <4eb867660901262222v472fcb0ja12dce556d68c46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <497F2707.2060102@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Pete Masse wrote: > I have xen and libvirtd installed on my machine but have no intention of > using xen virtualization on this server. When shutting them down, libvir > complains about every two minutes that it can't find the network. Could xen > and libvirt be safely uninstalled without breaking anything? > > Pete > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > rhn-users mailing list > rhn-users at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users Yes, that's a safe thing to do, but neither of those will fix your problem. To stop the complaining cron job, just remove rhn-virtualization-host: rpm -e rhn-virtualization-host As /etc/cron.d/rhn-virtualization.cron and /usr/share/rhn/virtualization/poller.py are the source of this behavior. If you just remove the things its trying to poll, you'll continue to get messages, just different messages. Thanks. Brandon -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJfycHhwQhj8l1t/cRAkC9AJ9IjMcu0ElDBbMhAxagn4es1fCLSQCcCmu7 qrg+4/W571bRPMLwlcfahfo= =SLUp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----