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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hi List,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>(Please correct me if this the wrong list for these sort of
issues).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I’m concerned that some of the patches / updates
offered by RHN for ES 3 are detrimental from a functionality perspective? The main
three we have issues with are:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>DHCPD<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>BIND<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>YP<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>DHCPD: 3.0pl2. This version is ancient (2+ years?). 3.0.1
superseded it six months ago. 3.0pl2 contains numerous bugs especially in
regard to high availability “peering” setups.</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>BIND: 9.2.4. This release is rc6. The decision to distribute
a release candidate version of BIND dumbfounds me as well as several users on
the isc.org list.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>YP: 2.8. Another 2+ year old version of the daemon. This
version SIGSEGV’s when you supply the –p switch.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>In all the daemon’s above we have had to replace the
binaries via third party RPM or from source.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Interestingly, we also use SuSE Enterprise 8 and 9 which ship
the most recent versions of all these daemons.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>The bottom line is: what am I really paying for here? Old, broken,
obsolete daemons? A vagely souped up version of RedHat 9? Whilst I am “told”
that we are paying for reliability and stability – that’s a crock.
None of these daemons work properly out of the box and have to be replaced. Will
ES4 resolve this?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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