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I did not send any commands; just a comment on someone else prompting me<br>
with their security configuration; something you may want<br>
to get people to stop doing through your Email list server.<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:rhn-users-bounces@redhat.com">rhn-users-bounces@redhat.com</a>
wrote:
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cite="midmailman.17595.1125945451.10237.rhn-users@redhat.com"
type="cite">
<pre wrap="">The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your
original message.
- Results:
Ignoring non-text/plain MIME parts
- Unprocessed:
take mail sent from an Email list server through the address
originally provided for that purpose only. Also, even if a message is
directed back at you because you are so incautious as to provide
your own direct Email address should probably also be accepted if the
message has as its reference the topic of a thread you are subscribed to
on a list server.
Additionally, my Email side does not recognize this from of your Email
address
(a problem that again violates the SMTP standards; not your direct fault
or responsibility,
but it means I cannot reply directly back to you).
Since my only contact is THROUGH the list server for the originating
message response, it is not
appropriate for you to ask individuals using the list server validly to
subscribe to your additional
security protocols, especially when they require something that actually
breaks SMTP standards
(capitalization of your E-mail address in a particular form); especially
when this can be broken or
bypassed trivially with an AI respondent that prompts and thrusts past
the "security" it provides;
a better method is a PGP signature or the like; but NOT as a requirement
to all respondents acting
through a list server.
The _list_ server requirements are the ones to be obeyed; none other.
Otherwise you place an undue burden on those who are using the list
server; in that each new respondent gets prompted to do _your_ security
upkeep.
If this somehow is an error that you did not intend or is arising from a
different circumstance, my apologies.
But I do not see how, in that your original Email id not appear to carry
your actual EMail address at all
(which in turn would be the FIRST step for someone concerned with Email
security through a list server;
and these days most list servers provide this "stripping' ability in the
per-user profile that you can set up
_through_the_list_server_).
Cheers. Good luck with future correspondents.
<a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:aws1998@comcast.net">aws1998@comcast.net</a> wrote:
- Ignored:
>Thank you for sending me your email with the following subject:
> "Re: [rhn-users] RedHat updates can be downloaded through a Windows"
>To prevent your message from being lost in the torrents of spam that plague the net these days, I am now using Geobytes "`m..." to protect me from spam.
>
>`m... has placed your message on hold pending human verification. Unlike any other product, `m... supports three levels of verification, so very few people that email me ever get to see this message, but in this case, it is necessary for me to ask you to click on the link below and verify that your message is not spam.
>
> <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://mav.geobytes.com/m.htm?v&e=roy.crabtree@ncat.edu&a=aws27s">http://mav.geobytes.com/m.htm?v&e=roy.crabtree@ncat.edu&a=aws27s</a>
>
>Further once verified you will be provided with a unique "CaseKeyed" (case sensitive) version of my email address which when used to contact me will ensure the immediate delivery of your future messages, without the need for further verification.
>
>I really want to receive your email, so please follow the above link.
>
>
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Re: [rhn-users] RedHat updates can be downloaded through a Windows
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<div class="headerdisplayname" style="display: inline;">From: </div>
"Roy A. Crabtree" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:roy.crabtree@ncat.edu"><roy.crabtree@ncat.edu></a></td>
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Mon, 05 Sep 2005 14:27:22 -0400</td>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
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Sorry, but I think it would be more polite and apropos if you actually
take mail sent from an Email list server through the address<br>
originally provided for that purpose only. Also, even if a message is
directed back at you because you are so incautious as to provide<br>
your own direct Email address should probably also be accepted if the
message has as its reference the topic of a thread you are subscribed
to on a list server.<br>
<br>
Additionally, my Email side does not recognize this from of your Email
address <br>
(a problem that again violates the SMTP standards; not your direct
fault or responsibility,<br>
but it means I cannot reply directly back to you).<br>
<br>
Since my only contact is THROUGH the list server for the originating
message response, it is not<br>
appropriate for you to ask individuals using the list server validly to
subscribe to your additional<br>
security protocols, especially when they require something that
actually breaks SMTP standards<br>
(capitalization of your E-mail address in a particular form);
especially when this can be broken or<br>
bypassed trivially with an AI respondent that prompts and thrusts past
the "security" it provides;<br>
<br>
a better method is a PGP signature or the like; but NOT as a
requirement to all respondents acting<br>
through a list server.<br>
<br>
The _list_ server requirements are the ones to be obeyed; none other.<br>
<br>
Otherwise you place an undue burden on those who are using the list
server; in that each new respondent gets prompted to do _your_ security
upkeep.<br>
<br>
If this somehow is an error that you did not intend or is arising from
a different circumstance, my apologies.<br>
<br>
But I do not see how, in that your original Email id not appear to
carry your actual EMail address at all<br>
(which in turn would be the FIRST step for someone concerned with Email
security through a list server;<br>
and these days most list servers provide this "stripping' ability in
the per-user profile that you can set up<br>
_through_the_list_server_).<br>
<br>
Cheers. Good luck with future correspondents.<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:aws1998@comcast.net">aws1998@comcast.net</a>
wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid20050905142632938.aws27s@cg830957-f" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Thank you for sending me your email with the following subject:
"Re: [rhn-users] RedHat updates can be downloaded through a Windows"
To prevent your message from being lost in the torrents of spam that plague the net these days, I am now using Geobytes "`m..." to protect me from spam.
`m... has placed your message on hold pending human verification. Unlike any other product, `m... supports three levels of verification, so very few people that email me ever get to see this message, but in this case, it is necessary for me to ask you to click on the link below and verify that your message is not spam.
<a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://mav.geobytes.com/m.htm?v&e=roy.crabtree@ncat.edu&a=aws27s">http://mav.geobytes.com/m.htm?v&e=roy.crabtree@ncat.edu&a=aws27s</a>
Further once verified you will be provided with a unique "CaseKeyed" (case sensitive) version of my email address which when used to contact me will ensure the immediate delivery of your future messages, without the need for further verification.
I really want to receive your email, so please follow the above link.
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Roy A. Crabtree<br>
UNC '76 gaa.lifer#11086<br>
NC A&T Fort Room 071<br>
1601 East Market Street<br>
Greensboro, NC 27411<br>
336-334-7856/7/8/9 x2249<br>
<br>
<a href="mailto:roy.crabtree@ncat.edu">roy.crabtree</a>@(<a
href="mailto:roy.crabtree@ncat.edu">ncat.edu</a>, <a
href="mailto:roy.crabtree@alumni.unc.edu">alumni.unc.edu</a>, <a
href="mailto:roy.crabtree@gmail.com">gmail.com</a>)<br>
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Roy A. Crabtree<br>
UNC '76 gaa.lifer#11086<br>
NC A&T Fort Room 071<br>
1601 East Market Street<br>
Greensboro, NC 27411<br>
336-334-7856/7/8/9 x2249<br>
<br>
<a href="mailto:roy.crabtree@ncat.edu">roy.crabtree</a>@(<a
href="mailto:roy.crabtree@ncat.edu">ncat.edu</a>, <a
href="mailto:roy.crabtree@alumni.unc.edu">alumni.unc.edu</a>, <a
href="mailto:roy.crabtree@gmail.com">gmail.com</a>)<br>
<br>
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(c) RAC/IP, ARE,PRO,PAST<br>
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