<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Thank you Mairin and Herta for you response. Here is the result from my up2date -i firefox, this was the first thing I tried: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [paula@rocky paula]$ up2date -i firefox Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: rhel-x86_64-ws-3... Fetching rpm headers... Name Version Rel ---------------------------------------------------------- The following packages you requested were not found: firefox ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This is why I wanted to use yum. I don't understand why "packages requested were not found." I got firefox from RHN, but it isn't an rpm. It's a complete directory. In the directory I run ./firefox and get that gtk error. When I go to the console and run ./firefox, it takes me to google.... I don't know why this is so hard. One of my colleagues said "welcome to the linux world." But I've been working with linux for over a year and have never encountered this. Many thanks for all of your help. Paula Máirín Duffy wrote: <blockquote cite="mid47603544.5060902@redhat.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Hi Paula, Paula J. Lindsay wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Hi everyone, I hope you can help me with this silly problem. I'm working on a RHE 3 machine and I am trying to install yum so I can yum down firefox. Well, when I try to install yum (via rpm) there are too many dependencies/conflicts and the install fails. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Where are you getting the yum RPM for RHEL 3 from? Are you sure the RPM you are using was built for RHEL 3? RHEL 3's default and Red Hat supported package update system is a program called 'up2date'. Do you have a specific reason that you would like to use yum instead of up2date on RHEL 3? </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">I finally gave up and downloaded a firefox package and I can't install that either. I get this message: (firefox-bin:1120): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Where are you receiving this message? This doesn't seem to be a message that RPM, yum, or up2date would output. See, it says "firefox-bin" so it looks like an error message given by running firefox, which means firefox would have to have been successfully installed. How are you starting up firefox when you try to run it? My first guess would be that maybe you've ssh'ed into a machine that has firefox installed and you are typing 'firefox' at the prompt, but because you are ssh'ed in it can't display the firefox window on your remote machine. (If you are connecting from a remote Linux machine you can try ssh -Y <hostname goes here> and then running firefox remotely and it should pop up.) </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">I am getting so frustrated because these were such simple tasks and I am just spinning my wheels. Why is it so hard to install these two programs. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> It appears you successfully installed firefox. Yum, I am not sure what the whole story is with that - why are trying to install it on a RHEL 3 machine? Is the RPM you are using built for RHEL 3? </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Why doesn't the rpm that I download already have the libs and python that is needed. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Necessarily, programs like firefox and yum rely on versions of libraries that are external to them. If every program contained the code for every other program and library it required, you would have many duplicate copies of the same set of libraries and programs installed on your machine, not only wasting your harddrive space but also leaving your machine vulnerable to security bugs as some programs' copies of a particular library may be very out-of-date. It is also important that the RPMs installed on your system are built for the version of RHEL that you are using. If you try to install a yum package that was built for RHEL 5 on a RHEL 3 machine, for example, it will likely never install because it will require versions of libraries and other packages that are not and likely will never be available in RHEL 3. One of the main differences between RHEL 3 and RHEL 5, for example, is the very package set and the manifest of package versions available in each. RPMs are not really meant to be installed by hand. We have package management programs such as yum and up2date in RHEL and apt in Debian in order to manage this 'dependency hell' for you. You should not have to resolve these dependencies by hand. The following video/article does talk a bit about this: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/09/20/the-next-horizon-how-red-hat-used-yum-to-overcome-rpm-dependency-hell/">http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/09/20/the-next-horizon-how-red-hat-used-yum-to-overcome-rpm-dependency-hell/</a> If you would have installed firefox by running 'up2date -i firefox' you would not have had to deal with any of this, if your goal was to just install firefox. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">I can't even google the problem because I always end up where I downloaded the program in the first place. Any help would be dearly appreciated. And, thanks in advance. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> In the future you may have some luck with <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://kbase.redhat.com/">http://kbase.redhat.com/</a>. Or of course you can feel free to ask here! Does this make any more sense now? ~m _______________________________________________ rhn-users mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rhn-users@redhat.com">rhn-users@redhat.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users</a> </pre> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Paula J. Lindsay IT Analyst III Research Computing 10550 North Torrey Pines Road La Jolla, CA 92037 858.784.9378 (office) 858.784.9301 (fax) <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:paula@scripps.edu">paula@scripps.edu</a> </pre> </body> </html>