[scl.org] Software collections on RHEL

Tue Mar 15 22:42:07 UTC 2016

Hi Noah.  Red Hat offers no support in any way for CentOS.  CentOS is a 
community supported distro.  Red Hat offers Red Hat Enterprise Linux 
with a number of support SLAs for development, test, and production 
usage.  Red Hat builds Docker images from our RHSCL collections and 
makes those images available to subscribers in our Registry with full 
Red Hat support.  I don't want to make a product plug on this list but 
it is important to understand that Red Hat develops, tests, and supports 
Red Hat Enterprise Linux and that CentOS is supported only by the CentOS 
community, not Red Hat.

Brian

On 03/15/2016 06:28 PM, Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
> I've found shocking few people care about official RH support for stuff like this but I'm probably looking at a self-selecting group since the more conservative folks probably don't use Chef :-) I'll make sure to note in the docs that SCLo recompiles are not covered under RH support though. I could do a similar backend for my installers that uses RHSCL but I would need to work out a way to test it. Do any of the RH folks on the list know if y'all offer subscription-y access for compat testing? I would still have to build the Docker image myself but that seems doable, if somewhat frustrating.
>
> --Noah
>
>> On Mar 15, 2016, at 2:20 PM, Honza Horak <hhorak at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well, I've been pointed to the fact that on RHEL the only supported set of RHSCL packages are those that are available in the RHSCL channel, as part of the subscriptions, so we shouldn't suggest using CentOS packages on RHEL. I'm sorry for giving wrong directions previously, but we want to make sure users are using only properly tested and supported packages on RHEL platform.
>>
>> Thanks for understanding,
>> Honza
>>
>> On 03/15/2016 04:11 PM, Honza Horak wrote:
>>> Oh, I wasn't aware there are RHEL subscriptions without access to RHSCL
>>> packages. But in case you don't have access to RHSCL channel, it is
>>> possible to install the CentOS repos with SCLs by following steps in:
>>> https://github.com/sclorg/centos-release-scl#how-to-install-sclo-packages-on-rhel-systems
>>>
>>>
>>> Please, let me know whether this will work for you.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Honza
>>>
>>> On 03/15/2016 03:39 PM, Stuart Campbell wrote:
>>>> Hi Honza,
>>>> Just so you know that we have a RHEL license that doesn't allow/enable
>>>> us to have access to the RHSCL channel.  So it would be useful to allow
>>>> access to the centos packages.
>>>> Many Thanks
>>>> Stuart
>>>>
>>>> On 03/15/2016 08:32 AM, Honza Horak wrote:
>>>>> Hi Noah,
>>>>>
>>>>> thank you for reporting, the issue with wrong redirection link was
>>>>> caused by mistake and we're already fixing the redirection, so the old
>>>>> links will work again soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, for the question about supported CentOS and RHSCL builds -- we're
>>>>> now working on updating information for all the collections on
>>>>> softwarecollections.org, so they all should soon say generally this:
>>>>>
>>>>>   For getting the CentOS builds you are expected to use:
>>>>>     yum install centos-release-scl-rh
>>>>>
>>>>>   For RHEL builds you are expected to use builds from Red Hat:
>>>>>     yum-config-manager --enable rhel-server-rhscl-7-rpms
>>>>>   (this information is now added to
>>>>> https://www.softwarecollections.org/en/scls/rhscl/python27/ and will
>>>>> be soon added to other collections as well)
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have any use case to use CentOS builds from
>>>>> softwarecollections.org on RHEL, I'd like to know it, since my
>>>>> understanding is that every RHEL machine should be fine with using
>>>>> packages from rhel-server-rhscl-7-rpms channel.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Honza
>>>>>
>>>>> On 03/14/2016 10:54 PM, Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
>>>>>> So softwarecollections.org recently shuffled URLs, breaking all the
>>>>>> repo package downloads
>>>>>> (https://www.softwarecollections.org/en/scls/rhscl/python27/epel-7-x86_64/download/rhscl-python27-epel-7-x86_64.noarch.rpm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ->
>>>>>> https://www.softwarecollections.org/repos/rhscl/python27/epel-7-x86_64/noarch/rhscl-python27-epel-7-x86_64-1-2.noarch.rpm).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On its own this is kind of super uncool, but deeper than that is that
>>>>>> it seems the Correct™ way to get the repos installed is to use `yum
>>>>>> install centos-release-scl-rh` now. As expected from the name, this
>>>>>> doesn't work on RHEL as that package isn't available outside of
>>>>>> CentOS's repos. Is softwarecollections.org dropping RHEL support? And
>>>>>> if so, what's the RHEL-official way to get things like Python 3 or
>>>>>> Ruby 2 on RHEL 6/7? I'm happy to fix the Chef cookbooks to work
>>>>>> whatever way is deemed official, but it seems like the RHEL and
>>>>>> CentOS SCL folks are operating on entirely different wavelengths.
>>>>>> Should I use softwarecollections .org for Cen!
>>>>> tOS and th
>>>>> e older RedHat Software Collections for RHEL?
>>>>>> --Noah
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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