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Re: 100% repeatable: starting X kills pppd

On Wed, 4 Jul 2001, A. Konstam wrote:
> I don't know why X kills pppd but I know how to avoid your
> problem. Run your machine in X at run level 5. Login using gdm
> and then connect to your ISP. I don't underatnad why anyone would
> run there machines at run level 3.


Check that out... theres a bug being looked at that deals with this.  If
you are having the same problem, then please go to bugzilla and add your
info to this bug.

As for the rest of that...

First, why not?  Second, lets look at it this way:

Traditional *nix users:  Linux and Unix are console based server operating
systems.  the pretty GUI stuff was added to make it more friendly to
Windows users.  (I know there were other reasons, but that is a big one).

I see your point here... but it is simpley a matter of choice.  I have 4
machines sitting here...  2 desktops, 1 laptop, and one 1U server.  none
of them run in 5.  All run in 3, and I run X on two of them.  But
everything else I do I do in a console.  Yes, I know you can do it in an
xterm in X, so?

I prefer to do it in a console, not in an xterm.  Plus, its a lot easier
for me to keep track of what is going on.  For example...  on one of my

tty 1 is for comand stuff
tty 2 is same
tty3 is same
tty 4 is for tail -f of /var/log/messages
tty 5 is for stderr
tty6 is for tail of any other file that I need to keep watch on.

But again, this is just for me.  And it all boils down to this:

Linux == freedom == choice.
and that is my choice.  Some people want to run in 5.  Some want to run in

I only worry about hte ones who dont know the difference...  or the ones
that want to always run in single... hehehe


Jeffrey Lane, RHCX, EMT

Red Hat, Inc.  919-547-0012

I've noticed lately that the paranoid fear of computers becoming
intelligent and taking over the world has almost entirely disappeared
from the common culture. Near as I can tell, this coincides with the
release of MS-DOS.  -- Larry DeLuca

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