[Spacewalk-list] FW: redhat channel in spacewalk

Thu Dec 4 19:04:19 UTC 2014

Hello Daryl,

I'll put the answer between your questions.

Take Care

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On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Daryl Rose <darylrose at outlook.com> wrote:

> I would like to ask more on the RH Satellite Starter Pack.  If I were to
> order that, can I still use it to update Solaris and SuSe as well?
>

Solaris will be discontinued, BTW I'm not sure when will be deactivated
from RHN Satellite (if will)., About Suse  believe you can work as SW,
create a repo/channel, etc. :-), pay attention, to add your SUSE in RHN
Satellite, you need more Smart Management (you can check if this will work
with Red Hat, because technically you may add suse in your rhn satellite,
talking about support, for sure you will not receive).

>
> How is setup and configuration?  Is it as easy as SW?  I've worked in two
> environments who attempted to stand up Satellite on their own, and both had
> to have RH professional services come in and do the work because it was to
> difficult to setup.
>

I liked your phrase "Is it as easy as SW?" :-), in theory SW is the RHN
Satellite project, if you install both, you can check and compare, what I
see in general situation is, the customer don't have the idea or sufficient
knowledge to work with this product or project, btw if you get a course
(RH401 for example), you will see in 4 days everything about RHN Satellite
(and in general you can use the same idea to SW), ok, we have differences
between them ..., yes, again, SW is a project, RHN Satellite is a product.
;-)

>
> Whats the difference between the "Starter Pack" and a regular Satellite
> subscription?  I looked at CDW and the price of the "Starter Pack" is only
> $5,000, but a regular Satellite subscription is over $33,000. That I know I
> can't afford, but the starter pack is more obtainable.
>

The difference is only certificate, starte pack is for 50 subscriptions,
regular is for all subscriptions that you have. The product is the same,
installation, environment, everything, changing only the certificate.

>
> I appreciate any feedback.
>

Welcome!

I really recommend you talk with a redhat sales guy, they will send to you
the best blue print for your scenery.

>
> Thank you.
>
> Daryl
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: waldirio at gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 13:26:17 -0200
>
> To: spacewalk-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-list] FW: redhat channel in spacewalk
>
> Daryl
>
> You can follow the Jean orientation, perfect. ;-), one point is, if you
> need more the one version (RHEL5, RHEL6, RHEL7 for example), you need
> configure 3 VM's :-)), because your rhel machine will be subscribed just in
> one base channel.
>
> If you know how to configure multiples channel in the same OS please share
> us!
>
> B'Regards
>
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>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Daryl Rose <darylrose at outlook.com> wrote:
>
> Waldirio,
>
> I do have RHEL subscriptions, but I'm not ready to set this up just yet.
> I'll probably look into it more after the first of the year, so I may ask
> follow up question's on how to configure SW for RHN.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Daryl
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: waldirio at gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 12:01:13 -0200
>
> To: spacewalk-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-list] FW: redhat channel in spacewalk
>
> Daryl
>
> Happy for help. About SW support RHEL, in theory is not supported (so this
> is a RHN Satellite feature), although technically you can add. About be in
> compliance, since you share rpm packages to your rhel environment, but to
> all RHEL's that you have subscription, no problem. What you CANNOT do is,
> you have 1 rhel subscription, use this account to download rpm files and
> have 100 rhels registered in your SW receiving packages and updates.
>
> Ps.: I checked this with redhat a long time ago, would be grateful if our
> Red Hatters friends tell us something about it.
>
> Downloading rpm from redhat, the process is the same, you can configure a
> local repo and sync them or if you download a rpm package, you can send to
> channel via rhnpush.
>
> Let me know if you have additional doubts.
>
> Take Care
>
>
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>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Daryl Rose <darylrose at outlook.com> wrote:
>
>  Waldirio,
>
> Thank you for the explanation. I understand your explanation.  The reason
> why I'm looking at Spacewalk is because I don't think that I can afford
> Satellite.  I'll look into the cost and see if it fits the budget or not.
>
> Your final comment said that RHEL repo can also be add to Spacewalk, but
> the documentation say's that SW cannot be used with RHEL repo.  Can you
> please point me to the older posts that show how to add the RHEL repo?
>
> Thanks
>
> Daryl
>
> ------------------------------
> From: waldirio at gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 20:09:29 -0200
> To: spacewalk-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-list] FW: redhat channel in spacewalk
>
>
> Daryl
>
> Spacewalk is the RHN Satellite Project, so using Spacewalk you don't have
> support, updates, etc
>
> RHN Satellite is a enterprise product, with support, updates, etc
>
> When you buy the RHN Satellite Subscription, you can buy a "full version"
> or started pack, full version is, if you have 10 RHEL's, the certificate
> generated will come with 10 subscriptions, if you have 1k, your
> subscription will come with 1k subscriptions. There are details about
> unlimited guests, but we will not talk about it now.
>
> When you install SW, you have a certificate to 20k servers, according
> bellow:
>
> ###
> <rhn-cert version="0.1">
>   <rhn-cert-field name="product">SPACEWALK-001</rhn-cert-field>
>   <rhn-cert-field name="owner">Spacewalk Default
> Organization</rhn-cert-field>
>   <rhn-cert-field name="issued">2007-07-13 00:00:00</rhn-cert-field>
>   <rhn-cert-field name="expires">2018-07-13 00:00:00</rhn-cert-field>
>   <rhn-cert-field name="slots">20000</rhn-cert-field>
>   <rhn-cert-field name="monitoring-slots">20000</rhn-cert-field>
>   <rhn-cert-field name="provisioning-slots">20000</rhn-cert-field>
>   <rhn-cert-field name="virtualization_host">20000</rhn-cert-field>
>   <rhn-cert-field
> name="virtualization_host_platform">20000</rhn-cert-field>
>   <rhn-cert-field name="satellite-version">spacewalk</rhn-cert-field>
>   <rhn-cert-field name="generation">2</rhn-cert-field>
>   <rhn-cert-signature>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: GnuPG v1
>
> iEYEABECAAYFAlNg/40ACgkQnnKdrwaUeTIXqwCgmRiTmzFuO7x3bitYPWcJFsZe
> UPgAn0kTzWo7xUGDpedM0No9nEnWa84P
> =FTXc
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
> </rhn-cert-signature>
> ###
>
> So, to conclude, if you have the opportunity to use RHN Satellite, you can
> do this, and add another OS's as repo. Pay attention, each server that you
> add in RHN Satellite, will user a Smart Management addon.
>
> If not, don't worry, you can add rhel repo, according various older posts.
>
> Let me know if the answer is satisfactory! :-)
>
> Take Care
>
>
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>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Daryl Rose <darylrose at outlook.com> wrote:
>
> Waldirio,
>
> I would like to probe this a little further.
>
> Does a person have to have a "Satellite Server" in order to have a
> Satellite subscription?  Or, can a person get satellite subscriptions
> separate and use them with Spacewalk?
>
> Thank you
>
> Daryl
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Waldirio Manhães Pinheiro* <waldirio at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-list] redhat channel in spacewalk
> To: spacewalk-list at redhat.com
>
>
> Hello Yang
>
> One question, do you have RHEL Subscription ?!, if yes, do you have RHN
> Satellite subscription ?!, according the quantity of your RHEL environment,
> you can buy the RHN Satellite subscription to your company and add another
> OS as repo/channel. The difference is, using RHN Satellite you will use the
> redhat support, update, erratas, etc.
>
> Check with your redhat sales person about it., you can get RHN Satellite
> Starter Pack (up to 50 subscriptions), the price is cool! ;-)
>
> B'Regards
>
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>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:48 PM, YANG LI <yangli at clemson.edu> wrote:
>
> we have different OS such as SLE, RHEL and OL. we would like to manage all
> our OS patching in one place if possible. is it possible to use spacewalk
> to get redhat channel?
>
> Thanks,
> Yang
>
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