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Hi, 

I got the following bounce,  I'm guessing the mx host at redhat
doesn't know about freedesktop.org  -- ??

--linas

dig freedesktop.org MX
 
; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> freedesktop.org MX
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 43799
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 0
 
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;freedesktop.org.               IN      MX
 
;; ANSWER SECTION:
freedesktop.org.        22281   IN      MX      10 mx1.redhat.com.
 


----- Forwarded message from Mail Delivery Subsystem <bouncer redhat com> -----

X-Original-To: linas backlot linas org
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <bouncer redhat com>
To: linas linas org
Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details
Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure)

The original message was received at Sun, 20 Jul 2003 12:51:17 -0400
from mx1.redhat.com [172.16.48.31]

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<xdg-list freedesktop org>

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
550 5.1.2 <xdg-list freedesktop org>... Host unknown (Name server: [listman.rdu-colo.redhat.com]: host not found)

Reporting-MTA: dns; int-mx1.corp.redhat.com
Received-From-MTA: DNS; mx1.redhat.com
Arrival-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 12:51:17 -0400

Final-Recipient: RFC822; xdg-list freedesktop org
Action: failed
Status: 5.1.2
Remote-MTA: DNS; [listman.rdu-colo.redhat.com]
Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 12:51:17 -0400

To: xdg-list freedesktop org
Cc: maclas gmx de, tigert ximian com
Subject: Re: Xdg-list digest, Vol 1 #435 - 12 msgs
From: Linas Vepstas <linas linas org>

On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 12:00:09PM -0400, xdg-list-request freedesktop org was heard to remark:
> Subject: Re: date DND
> 
> On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 22:12, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > 2) Is the proposed format good enough, or should we optionally include
> > time information ?

DND for time would be nice, and even for time interval.

(I hack on gnotime (gttr.sourceforge.net) so am sensitive to this).

> I am clueless on these things, but how about the unix time stamp string?
> That includes the exact time, and one could use it as "time" or "date"
> depending on the application..?

'seconds' is good, although there can be timezone issues. 

The ideal standard is ISO 8601 which solves the date and the time and
the timezone issues:

    For example: 1998-07-17 11:00:00.68-05
    is 680 milliseconds after 11 o'clock, central daylight time

What's nice is that this string is human readable too ...
It also sorts nicely during ascii sort.

--linas

If you need utility routines, I have the following inside of gnucash:

/** The gnc_iso8601_to_timespec_local() routine converts an ISO-8601 style
 *    date/time string to Timespec.
 *    For example: 1998-07-17 11:00:00.68-05
 *    is 680 milliseconds after 11 o'clock, central daylight time
 *    \return The time in local time.*/
Timespec gnc_iso8601_to_timespec_local(const char *);
 
/** The gnc_iso8601_to_timespec_gmt() routine converts an ISO-8601 style
 *    date/time string to Timespec.
 *    For example: 1998-07-17 11:00:00.68-05
 *    is 680 milliseconds after 11 o'clock, central daylight time
 *    \return The time in gmt. */
Timespec gnc_iso8601_to_timespec_gmt(const char *);
 




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