From ttrinks at redhat.com Tue Oct 6 08:57:52 2015 From: ttrinks at redhat.com (ttrinks at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 08:57:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [zanata-users] translate.engineering.redhat.com Scheduled Maintenance | 07-Oct-2015 07:00:00 UTC Message-ID: e9baea82-9c12-479b-ba2f-76982929ac72@support.engineering.redhat.com --------------------------------------------------------- ***// SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE REPORT //*** Priority: Medium Scheduled Date: 07-Oct-2015 07:00:00 UTC Estimated Time Required: 120 minutes Performed By: ttrinks People/Groups Impacted: Users of translate.engineering.redhat.com Services/Sites Impacted: translate.engineering.redhat.com Description: Zanata on translate.engineering.redhat.com will be upgraded from 3.6 to 3.7. Impact: The translation framework Zanata will not be available during outage. 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Impact: The translation framework Zanata will not be available during outage. Sign Off: Vadim Grinco ***//SENT FROM CHARNET //*** https://support.engineering.redhat.com/status.jsf From ttrinks at redhat.com Wed Oct 7 10:33:24 2015 From: ttrinks at redhat.com (ttrinks at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 10:33:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [zanata-users] translate.engineering.redhat.com Scheduled Maintenance | 07-Oct-2015 07:00:00 UTC In-Reply-To: e9baea82-9c12-479b-ba2f-76982929ac72@support.engineering.redhat.com References: e9baea82-9c12-479b-ba2f-76982929ac72@support.engineering.redhat.com Message-ID: <1614953442.463.1444214004328.JavaMail.jboss@twoface.host.prod.eng.rdu2.redhat.com> COMPLETED COMMENT ADDED BY ttrinks at 07-Oct-2015 10:33:24 UTC Outage complete. Zanata on translate.engineering.redhat.com has successfully been upgraded. Please report any issues via eng-ops at redhat.com. 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Impact: The translation framework Zanata will not be available during outage. Sign Off: Vadim Grinco ***//SENT FROM CHARNET //*** https://support.engineering.redhat.com/ From ttrinks at redhat.com Fri Oct 16 09:57:23 2015 From: ttrinks at redhat.com (ttrinks at redhat.com) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 09:57:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [zanata-users] Other Scheduled Maintenance | 16-Oct-2015 08:00:00 UTC In-Reply-To: 5b227b6a-36ce-41ec-9f80-44e29fb7adf9@support.engineering.redhat.com References: 5b227b6a-36ce-41ec-9f80-44e29fb7adf9@support.engineering.redhat.com Message-ID: <1438293544.18.1444989443614.JavaMail.jboss@twoface.host.prod.eng.rdu2.redhat.com> UPDATED COMMENT ADDED BY ttrinks at 16-Oct-2015 09:57:23 UTC Outage complete. Zanata servicese successfully been upgraded. Please report any issues to eng-ops at redhat.com. 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Sign Off: Vadim Grinco ***//SENT FROM CHARNET //*** https://support.engineering.redhat.com/ From ttrinks at redhat.com Fri Oct 16 12:14:29 2015 From: ttrinks at redhat.com (ttrinks at redhat.com) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 12:14:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [zanata-users] Other Scheduled Maintenance | 16-Oct-2015 10:00:00 UTC In-Reply-To: 3f1a4f6e-8620-49cc-b6cf-3292b5df1208@support.engineering.redhat.com References: 3f1a4f6e-8620-49cc-b6cf-3292b5df1208@support.engineering.redhat.com Message-ID: <945943744.22.1444997668992.JavaMail.jboss@twoface.host.prod.eng.rdu2.redhat.com> COMPLETED COMMENT ADDED BY ttrinks at 16-Oct-2015 12:14:28 UTC Outage complete. Zanata has successfully been upgraded. Please report any issues via eng-ops at redhat.com. --------------------------------------------------------- ***// SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE REPORT //*** HostName: translate.engineering.redhat.com Priority: Medium Scheduled Date: 16-Oct-2015 10:00:00 UTC Estimated Time Required: 120 minutes Performed By: ttrinks People/Groups Impacted: Users of translate.engineering.redhat.com Services/Sites Impacted: Other Description: Zanata on translate.engineering.redhat.com will be upgraded. Impact: The translation framework Zanata will not be available during outage. Sign Off: Vadim Grinco ***//SENT FROM CHARNET //*** https://support.engineering.redhat.com/ From dchen at redhat.com Fri Oct 16 13:01:00 2015 From: dchen at redhat.com (Ding Yi Chen) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 09:01:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [zanata-users] Zanata public instances have been upgraded to 3.7.3. In-Reply-To: <1542696270.52340773.1445000388655.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1980173034.52341443.1445000460325.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Our public instances: https://fedora.zanata.org/ https://translate.zanata.org/ https://translate.jboss.org/ have been upgraded to 3.7.3. Thanks Timo Trink for doing the wonderful jobs. Regards, -- Ding-Yi Chen Software Engineer Globalization Group DID: +61 7 3514 8239 Email: dchen at redhat.com Red Hat, Asia-Pacific Pty Ltd Level 1, 193 North Quay Brisbane 4000 Office: +61 7 3514 8100 Fax: +61 7 3514 8199 Website: www.redhat.com Red Hat, Inc. Facebook: Red Hat APAC | Red Hat Japan | Red Hat Korea | JBoss APAC Twitter: Red Hat APAC | Red Hat ANZ LinkedIn: Red Hat APAC | JBoss APAC From ttrinks at redhat.com Wed Oct 21 08:22:36 2015 From: ttrinks at redhat.com (ttrinks at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 08:22:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [zanata-users] Other Scheduled Maintenance | 21-Oct-2015 08:30:00 UTC Message-ID: b7f1dc34-99cd-4814-8aba-49cd4d5ebf2a@support.engineering.redhat.com --------------------------------------------------------- ***// SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE REPORT //*** HostName: translate.jboss.org, translate.zanata.org, fedora.zanata.org Priority: High Scheduled Date: 21-Oct-2015 08:30:00 UTC Estimated Time Required: 60 minutes Performed By: ttrinks Services/Sites Impacted: Other Description: All instances have to be re-indexed due to stale lock files. Impact: The translation framework Zanata will not be available during outage. 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Sign Off: Vadim Grinco ***//SENT FROM CHARNET //*** https://support.engineering.redhat.com/ From ttrinks at redhat.com Mon Oct 26 14:47:27 2015 From: ttrinks at redhat.com (ttrinks at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 14:47:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [zanata-users] Other Scheduled Maintenance | 27-Oct-2015 09:00:00 UTC Message-ID: 924e6c17-3efe-449d-bc34-33ed7e9fdfd6@support.engineering.redhat.com --------------------------------------------------------- ***// SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE REPORT //*** HostName: *.jboss.org, *.zanata.org Priority: High Scheduled Date: 27-Oct-2015 09:00:00 UTC Estimated Time Required: 60 minutes Performed By: ttrinks People/Groups Impacted: jboss.org, zanata.org Services/Sites Impacted: Other Description: Apply security updates. Impact: Various jboss.org and zanata.org services will be down during while security updates are being applied. Sign Off: Vadim Grinco ***//SENT FROM CHARNET //*** https://support.engineering.redhat.com/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: maintenance.ics Type: text/calendar Size: 1690 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dchen at redhat.com Tue Oct 27 05:52:12 2015 From: dchen at redhat.com (Ding Yi Chen) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 01:52:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [zanata-users] How to translate plural forms in zanata online editor? In-Reply-To: References: <1530190343.59413601.1445918711854.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1799621817.59433444.1445925132061.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> ----- Original Message ----- > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:05 PM, Ding Yi Chen wrote: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:02 PM, J?r?me Fenal wrote: > >> > 2015-10-24 18:32 GMT+02:00 Alick Zhao : > >> >> Howdy, > >> >> > >> >> I have not looked close at fedora.zanata.org lately, and it seems now > >> >> zanata shows strings with singular/plural forms in *one* textbox in > >> >> its online editor, as in screenshot [1]. I am wondering what is the > >> >> right way to translate them? I tried to search through the zanata > >> >> docs, but cannot find it. Hope someone can point out for me. Thanks! > >> >> > >> >> [1] http://susepaste.org/83191113 > >> > > >> > Hi Alick, > >> > > >> > You'd need to actually check in the source if the mix of singular and > >> > plural form are handled. > >> > > >> > Zanata does present the two alternatives when the code for the > >> > translated messages does handle it. > >> > > >> > >> Yes, I do see the two alternatives with two radio buttons. My question > >> is: How to translate both two strings in one entry box? Should I first > >> translate the first one, then press the second radio button, and then > >> translate the second one? The warning messages appear when I tried to > >> do these, so I am not quite sure what is the right thing to do... > > > > If you translates string from the language with plural (e.g. English) > > to the language without plural (e.g. Chinese). > > > > Normally you only need to translate the singular (the first) string. > > The radio buttons there are merely for copy from source string. > > Well, I guess Chinese do have singular/plural differences in a sense. > For example, > > Last week --> ?? > > {0:d} weeks ago --> ?????? Please warn the gnome-abrt upstream the way they handle plural will break the languages where the first form is not one. [1] For example, French's "singular" form includes 0 and 1 (while in English, 0 is plural). So if function outputs 0, the French equivalent of "Last Week" will be used, which may be wrong. And as for Chinese, the thing you translated become msgstr[0] "??\n" "\n" "{0:d} ??" a three-lined string no matter what function returned. If the function returns 1, user will see: ?? 1 ?? If the function return 3, user will see: ?? 3 ?? If the upstream does not fix it in time, I suggest you go with {0:d} weeks ago --> {0:d} ?? Reference: 1. http://www.unicode.org/cldr/charts/latest/supplemental/language_plural_rules.html > > -- > Regards, > Alick > -- > trans mailing list > trans at lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans -- Ding-Yi Chen Software Engineer Globalization Group DID: +61 7 3514 8239 Email: dchen at redhat.com Red Hat, Asia-Pacific Pty Ltd Level 1, 193 North Quay Brisbane 4000 Office: +61 7 3514 8100 Fax: +61 7 3514 8199 Website: www.redhat.com Red Hat, Inc. Facebook: Red Hat APAC | Red Hat Japan | Red Hat Korea | JBoss APAC Twitter: Red Hat APAC | Red Hat ANZ LinkedIn: Red Hat APAC | JBoss APAC From ttrinks at redhat.com Tue Oct 27 08:50:00 2015 From: ttrinks at redhat.com (ttrinks at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 08:50:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [zanata-users] Other Scheduled Maintenance | 27-Oct-2015 09:00:00 UTC Message-ID: 924e6c17-3efe-449d-bc34-33ed7e9fdfd6@support.engineering.redhat.com This maintenance will begin in approximately 10 minutes --------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------- ***// SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE REPORT //*** HostName: *.jboss.org, *.zanata.org Priority: High Scheduled Date: 27-Oct-2015 09:00:00 UTC Estimated Time Required: 60 minutes Performed By: ttrinks People/Groups Impacted: jboss.org, zanata.org Services/Sites Impacted: Other Description: Apply security updates. Impact: Various jboss.org and zanata.org services will be down during while security updates are being applied. Sign Off: Vadim Grinco ***//SENT FROM CHARNET //*** https://support.engineering.redhat.com/ From ttrinks at redhat.com Tue Oct 27 12:14:25 2015 From: ttrinks at redhat.com (ttrinks at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [zanata-users] Other Scheduled Maintenance | 27-Oct-2015 09:00:00 UTC In-Reply-To: 924e6c17-3efe-449d-bc34-33ed7e9fdfd6@support.engineering.redhat.com References: 924e6c17-3efe-449d-bc34-33ed7e9fdfd6@support.engineering.redhat.com Message-ID: <2061241563.277.1445948065131.JavaMail.jboss@twoface.host.prod.eng.rdu2.redhat.com> COMPLETED COMMENT ADDED BY ttrinks at 27-Oct-2015 12:14:25 UTC Outage complete. Please report any issues via eng-ops at redhat.com. 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