[Devtools] [Container-tools] openshift is way too permissive in the CDK/ADB

Burr Sutter bsutter at redhat.com
Wed May 18 13:17:10 UTC 2016


On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Aaron Weitekamp <aweiteka at redhat.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Dusty Mabe <dusty at dustymabe.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 05/18/2016 07:18 AM, Aslak Knutsen wrote:
>> > I think most teams at the Brno F2F were struggling with this. It works
>> locally, but semi-obscure failures when pushed 'live'. And out of the 30 RH
>> engineers there, none knew 100% or was able to dig up a doc that explained
>> why and how to fix it...
>> >
>> > This is/will be a massive pain point moving from Dev to Production. The
>> very least we need some very clear, simple guides on how to make it work.
>>
>> Yeah, I think a lot of people are going to be very frustrated by this.
>> It took me over an hour to track down and that's only because I know a
>> lot about how the CDK is set up. Others would probably never be able
>> to figure it out.
>>
>>> For the "eval" use case we made the right choice. Dusty's question is
> about the CDK use case. To my mind the CDK should add value to a
> ​n openshift eval environment. This is a great opportunity for the CDK to
> provide tooling to address this ubiquitous problem. Mitch Harpur's ideas
> around this months ago were spot-on: walk devs through a journey, educate
> them, etc.
>

Either the CDK can add this additional "tool", to help walk an end-user
through a "proper" Dockerfile or pre-built container image.

OR

Openshift could offer this tool and I believe that is where it belongs.
Because Openshift Online Users are going to hit this 100 times an hour once
we open up the floodgates.  :-)



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