fedora x install

[Jay Estabrook]

Hi, Todd,

Just to be clear: the Radeons are the best bet on the DS10/DS20,
and other EV6 or later machines (sorry API, no AGP or UP2000+ it seems)
if the SRM firmware is reasonably up-to-date. Not only do they work
fine in text mode and 2D, but they are the best (perhaps only) choice
for doing 3D on Alpha, and they seem to "just work", all the way from
the original R100-based 7200, through 7000, 7500, 9100, 9250; there's
even a report of x1550 (PCI) working, at least in 2D.

Most installs will include "glxgears", and you can choose to install
"ppracer" (I managed to squeeze it onto the CD :-); both should work
WITHOUT any hand-holding or manual intervention, though "ppracer"
will run better if a lot of the extraneous system services are shut
down.

Anyway, enjoy!

--Jay++


Todd Seeleman wrote:
> Hi Jay,
> 
> I resemble that remark!!  Anyway thanks for the hints.  Luckily I get
> to fool around with this stuff at work (don't tell my boss) so you
> could say I'm paid to play.  I may not even pursue this it's just
> been interrupting my thought process for some time.
> 
> Todd
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message----- From: axp-list-bounces at redhat.com
> [mailto:axp-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Jay Estabrook Sent:
> Monday, April 28, 2008 12:10 PM To: axp-list at redhat.com Subject: Re:
> fedora x install
> 
> Todd Seeleman wrote:
>> I'm still playing around with old alphas myself and even running 
>> Tru64 5b.  I currently have 2 DEC AlphaServer 1200s, 2 DS10s, and 1
>>  DS20.  When I try the Fedora graphical install on any of these the
>>  systems just crash and I'm forced to reboot them.  I've tried S3, 
>> ARK, & Cloud 9 PCI cards but none of them work.  I can successfully
>>  complete a text based install.  Any ideas?
> 
> Just one idea: are you *CRAZY*? ;-}
> 
> There *MAY* be drivers for S3/ARK/Cloud9 *BUILT* for Alpha, but *YOU*
> may be the *ONLY* one to *ACTUALLY* try them in an Alpha.
> 
> How's it feel being a pioneer? ;-}
> 
> I did try an S3Trio64 during testing, and while it "worked", was VERY
> FRAGILE. No straight S3 card tried, though.
> 
> I've never heard reports from other Alpha folks that had actually 
> tried an ARK or Cloud9 card; I don't think I've ever even SEEN one, 
> let alone tried it out. We (DEC/COMPAQ/HP) never sold any in our 
> Alphas, AFAIK, so there'd not been any reason to check them out.
> 
> So, my NEXT idea is: find one of the following, which will probably 
> do the trick for graphics:
> 
> 1. Matrox Millennium I, II, G200, G400 (I had trouble with G450) 2.
> Permedia 2 or 3 based card (ELSA Gloria, Oxygen VX1, etc) 3. ATI
> Radeons (not sure if they'll work in an AS1200) 4. 3DFx Voodoo3
> (though there may be some doubt, esp. on AS1200)
> 
> I've even been able to get an ATI Rage 128 going in 3D, though it IS 
> quite slow, compared to the Radeons.
> 
> Some of the old nVidia PCI cards, like TNT or TNT2, may work, though 
> again the SRM console BIOS emulation on the AS1200 may not be up to
> it.
> 
> Good luck, and PLEASE let us know how you make out.
> 
> --Jay++
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