Has any solution for blind to run windows under linux?

[John G. Heim]

Getting vmware to run under linux does have something to do with safari & 
voiceover. As I said, I don't think you can get the vmware web app to run in 
safari. It doesn't run very well under firefox with orca either. Well, in 
fact it doesn't run great under IE with jaws for that matter. It's just kind 
of a sucky web app in terms of accessibility. But I tried all three and by 
far the best combo was IE & jaws.

It's true that having to press the enter key to enter data into a field when 
using jaws is kind of lame but voiceover is chuck full of things like that. 
You have to press a 4 key combination to interact with a table or to 
interact with text.

I don't mean to trash voiceover here. As I said, I am trying to switch to 
the Mac full time. You're on the voiceover list right? I asked about the 
voiceover vs jaws issue last summer and specifically about voiceover & 
safari compared to IE and jaws. I was on yet another list and had asserted 
that voiceover users would say that it's as good as jaws. So I asked on the 
voiceover list and was disappointed by the answers. First of all, several 
people agreed that voiceover isn't up the the standard set by jaws yet. 
Others suggested I switch to firefox for the Mac. I guess you can't entirely 
trust self-selected surveys  but when it's voiceover users themselves saying 
this, it carries a lot of weight. Well, anyway, that's what I meant when I 
used the term "conventional wisdom". It's not as if I've done a scientific 
survey but then "conventional wisdom" isn't a scientific term either.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman at handsontechnologeyes.com>
To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list at redhat.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: Has any solution for blind to run windows under linux?


> we are mixing apples with oranges here.  getting vm to run under linux 
> has nothing to do with voiceover and safari.
>
> Jaws is over crowded with complexity, it robs us of the natural ook  and 
> feel of the browser and makes a lot of mistakes in doing so.  I  find it 
> takes no greater number of keystrokes to do most things with  voiceover. 
> I don't know what the "conventional wisdom" means here but  I have been 
> using voiceover for 5 years now and am so glad I don't  have to be forced 
> to turn on forms mode or turn off the virtual mode  just to use the web.
>
> On Jan 11, 2009, at 2:04 PM, John Heim wrote:
>
> My ultimate goal is to be jaws free. And I'm typing this on a Mac  mini. 
> But my impression is that jaws and Windows is still  significantly ahead 
> of Mac OS and voiceover. It takes too many  keystrokes to get things done 
> vya voiceover. I even asked about this  on the voiceover list last summer 
> and the conventional wisdom is that  voiceover isn't quite up to jaws 
> level yet.
>
> I've been trying to get Windows to run in a virtual machine under  linux. 
> I don't think there is any way I'd have been able to get that  done 
> without jaws.
>
>
> On Jan 11, 2009, at 12:12 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
>
>> I find safari with voice over superior to jaws.
>>
>> On Jan 11, 2009, at 1:00 PM, John Heim wrote:
>>
>> Windows still has quite a few advantages as a user interface over  linux 
>> espeically for the blind. Windows and jaws is better than Max  OS and 
>> VoiceOver too. Go on the voiceOver email list and even they  will admit 
>> that. Note that I'm sending this from a Mac mini.
>>
>> Other reasons to want to run Windows would include the possibility  that 
>> you need to use some software that is available only for  Windows and the 
>> possibility that you have to support Windows.
>>
>> I just got Windows running in a virtual machine via vmware server2.  But 
>> I'll post another message about that.
>>
>>
>> On Jan 11, 2009, at 6:18 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>
>>> Really, that's as bad as running windows on the mac!  In both cases  why 
>>> accept the security problems and waste the disk space?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Cody Hurst wrote:
>>>
>>>> The simple answer is no. There are ways, but you'd better do your 
>>>> reading before asking such things because the ways that are there  are 
>>>> inaccessible.
>>>> And, why would you want to run windows under linux in the first  place?
>>>> On Jun 26, 2008, at 6:05 PM, 高生旺 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As title. Thank you!
>>>>> Coscell
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