debian vs vinux?
Jackie McBride
abletec at gmail.com
Sun Jun 5 18:12:07 UTC 2011
Hi, Karen:
The mailing list link for the vinux support list is:
vinux-support at googlegroups.com
I believe u can sign up by putting a hyphen, followed by the word
"subscribe", prior to the @ sign.
On 6/5/11, Karen Lewellen <klewellen at shellworld.net> wrote:
> Hi again,
> well I am not a total newbie, have been on a few lists for a few years.
> still I am not fond of tinkering with my machine either. Finally have
> someone here in Toronto who I can trust and who really understands my
> computing needs.
> do send me the link to join the vinux list, I have some specific questions
> as to things I wish to be able to do, programs I hope to run etc.
> As for the specs for my IBM thinkpad 560 f, this is likely more than one
> might want to know, but I will just paste all the details below.
> Thanks again,
> Karen
> Thinkpad 560 specs
> DESCRIPTION 2640-50A/50C/E0A/E0C/F0D/F0E/F0G
> STANDARD FEATURES
> BIOS (7s)
> ROM Size 128KB
> ROM Shadowing Yes
> Keyboard Speed Setting Yes
> Processor Speed Setting Switch/Software ???
> Plug and Play (PnP) Support ???
> Quick POST Yes
> Setup and Diagnostics
> Stored on Hard Disk/Flash ROM Flash ROM
> VESA APM Support Yes (8z)
> DPMS Support ???
> Rapid Resume Yes
> LED Indicators Yes
> Math Coprocessor Integrated into processor
> Coprocessor Speed (MHz) 100 (50A/50C)
> 120 (E0A/E0C)
> 133 (F0D/F0E/F0G)
> STANDARD VIDEO CONTROLLER SVGA
> 8/16/32-bit Controller 16
> Video Chip Set ???
> Local Bus Yes (PCI)
> Video Accelerator Yes
> Bus Master ???
> Video Memory (Standard) 1MB
> Video Memory (Maximum) 1MB
> Maximum Graphics with LCD SVGA
> EXTERNAL MONITOR PORT Yes
> Concurrent Use with External Monitor Yes - Both are active
> Type of Monitor Supported VGA/SVGA
> Maximum Resolution/Colors 1024x768x256-Colors (NI)
> BUILT-IN DISPLAY Color LCD (E0A/E0C/F0D/F0E/F0G)
> Technology Thin-Film Transistor (TFT)
> Dimensions (Diagonal) 12.1"
> # of Colors Concurrently 64K
> Color Palette 64K Colors
> Contrast Ratio ???
> Non-interlaced Yes
> Detachable No
> Screen Tilt 180�
> BUILT-IN DISPLAY Color LCD (50A/50C)
> Technology Dual-Scan Twisted Nematic (DSTN)
> Dimensions (Diagonal) 11.3"
> # of Colors Concurrently 256
> Color Palette ??? Colors
> Contrast Ratio ???
> Non-interlaced Yes
> Detachable No
> Screen Tilt 135�
> MULTIMEDIA FEATURES
> Mwave DSP No
> SoundBlaster Pro Compatible Yes (???????? chip)
> Microphone Built-In Yes
> Speaker(s) Built-In Yes
> Stereo Audio/Voice Playback Yes
> Stereo Input Jack Yes
> Stereo Headphone/Speaker Jack Yes
> MIDI/Joystick Port Yes
> Volume Control Slider Yes
> Audio Drivers N/A
> Enhanced Video Card ???
> INTERNAL MODEM Optional PCMCIA
> TELEPHONY FEATURES No
> PORT REPLICATOR/DOCKING UNIT CONNECTORYes
> POINTING DEVICE PORTS 1
> Built-in TrackPoint III on Keybd Yes
> PS/2-Type Mouse Port Yes (3t)(4v)
> SERIAL PORTS (RS232C) 1
> Supports DMA Data Transfer No
> Maximum Ports Supported 1
> 9/25-Pin 9-pin
> UART Chip Used NS16550-compatible
> FIFO Mode Enabled ???
> Maximum Speed (bits/second) ???
> PARALLEL PRINTER PORTS 1
> Supports DMA Data Transfer No
> Supports ECP/EPP Transfers EPP
> Maximum Ports Supported 1
> Bi-directional Yes
> EXTERNAL KEYBOARD PORT Yes (4v)
> EXTERNAL DISKETTE DRIVE PORT Yes
> INFRARED TRANSCEIVERS (Front/Back) Side
> Data Transfer/Printing Both
> Supports IBM Mode (1.15 Mbps) No
> Supports HP Mode (9.6-115 Kbps) Yes (4q)
> Supports Sharp Mode (9.6 Kbps) No
> File Transfer Software Included Yes
> SCSI PORT ???
> CMOS CLOCK Yes
> CMOS Battery Life (years) 5
> Replaceable Yes (Dealer Only)
> POWER SOURCE
> Battery Yes
> AC Adapter Included Yes (35W)
> Quick Charge Feature ???
> Car Cigarette Lighter Adapter ???
> Number of Batteries Supplied 1
> Battery Type Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion)
> Battery Pack Specs 10.8V, 2.2AH
> Length of Battery Charge (hrs) 3
> Battery Charging While Operating ?.? - ?.? hours
> Powered Off or In Suspend Mode ?.? - ?.? hours
> Battery "Fuel Gauge" Software ???
> Battery Discharge Utility Included ???
> Non-Disruptive Battery Exchange ???
> DESCRIPTION 2640-50A/50C/E0A/E0C/F0D/F0E/F0G
> BUILT-IN EXPANSION SLOTS
> Number of PCMCIA Type I/II/III Slots 0/0/1 (4f)
> IBM 3545 ThinkPad Dock I System No
> IBM 3546 ThinkPad Dock II System No
> IBM 3547 ThinkPad SelectaDock I No
> IBM ThinkPad 560 Port Replicator Optional
> IBM ThinkPad Replicator Model I No
> IBM ThinkPad Replicator Model II No
> IBM ThinkPad SelectaDock Base Model I No
> OPERATING SYSTEM SUPPORT
> IBM PC/DOS 7.0,J7.0/V, or later
> IBM OS/2 Warp/Warp Connect 3.0, or later
> IBM OS/2 Warp Server 4.0, or later
> IBM OS/2 Warp-Japanese 3.0, or later (F0D)
> MS DOS 6.22, or later
> MS Windows 3.11, or later
> MS Windows for Workgroups 3.11, or later
> MS Windows NT Workstation 3.51, or later
> MS Windows 95 1.0, or later
> DESCRIPTION 2640-50A/50C/E0A/E0C/F0D/F0E/F0G
> ARCHITECTURE
> Bus Type PCI/ISA
> Microprocessor Pentium
> Uses 3.3 Volt Technology Yes
> Clock Multiplying Yes (1.5X) (50A/50C)
> Yes (2X) (E0A/E0C/F0D/F0E/F0G)
> Clock Speed (MHz)
> Internal 100 (50A/50C)
> External 66 (50A/50C)
> Internal 120 (E0A/E0C)
> External 60 (E0A/E0C)
> Internal 133 (F0D/F0E/F0G)
> External 66 (F0D/F0E/F0G)
> Processor Cache Controller Yes (4u)
> Standard Internal Cache 16K
> Standard External Cache 0K
> Maximum External Cache 0K
> Instruction Set 32 bit
> Addressing 32 Bit
> I/O Channel Width 32 bit
> Upgradeable Processor No
> Interrupt Levels 15
> Type (ISA) Edge-triggered, non-shareable
> Type (PCI) Level-sensitive, shareable
> Maximum Bus Data Transfer Rates
> ISA Burst Transfer Mode 8 Mbytes/second
> PCI Burst Transfer Mode 132 Mbytes/second
> DMA Channels 7
> DMA Burst Mode Supported ???
> 24/32-bit DMA Controller 32
> Memory Interleaving Yes
> Page Memory Logic Yes
> Bus Masters Supported Yes
> MEMORY
> RAM on Motherboard
> Standard Motherboard RAM 8MB (2r)(7t)
> Maximum Motherboard RAM 40MB (3d)
> Memory Sockets Total/Available 2/2 (3d)
> RAM Speed (ns) 70
> RAM Type Supported 64-bit EDO DIMMs (3d)
> DIMMs Supported 8MB/16MB/32MB (3d)
> Wait States 0
> ECC/Parity Support No
> DESCRIPTION 2640-50A/50C/E0A/E0C/F0D/F0E/F0G
> DISK STORAGE
> Selectable Boot ???
> Bootable Physical Drives ???
> Internal Drive Bays in System 2
> Number of 2.5"/3.5"/5.25" 1/1/0
> Number of 2.5"/3.5"/5.25" Available 0/0/0
> Number of PCMCIA Type I/II/III Slots 0/0/1 (4f)
> Number of PCMCIA Slots Available 0/0/1 (4f)
> PCMCIA Specification Supported V2.01
> PCMCIA Socket Services Specification V2.0
> DISKETTE DRIVES
> Standard Drive(s) 1 x 1.44MB
> Media Sensing ???
> Removable Yes
> Internal Drives Supported 0
> External Drives Supported 1
> Maximum Drives Supported 1
> Optional Drives
> 5.25" 360K No
> 5.25" 1.2MB No
> 3.5" 720K No
> 3.5" 1.44MB No
> 3.5" 2.88MB No
> HARD DISK DRIVES
> Standard Hard Disk Controller Type Enhanced IDE (EIDE) |
> Adapter/Motherboard Motherboard
> Controllers Supported per System 1
> Devices Supported per Controller 1
> Standard Hard Disk (Removable) 810MB (50A/50C/E0A/E0C)
> 1.08GB (F0D/F0E/F0G)
> Encoding Method "No ID Sectoring"
> Drive Form Factor 2.5"
> Average Access Rate (ms) 12.5 ms (810MB)
> 8.1 ms (1.08GB)
> Hard Disk Data Transfer/second 8.3 Mbits/sec (810MB)
> ??.?-??.? Mbits/sec (1.08GB)
> Rotational Speed (RPMs) ???
> Average Latency (ms) 7.5 (810MB)
> ?.? (1.08GB)
> Number of Heads 16 logical (810MB)
> ??? (1.08GB)
> Number of Platters ???
> Sectors per Track 63 (810MB)
> ??? (1.08GB)
> Number of Cylinders 1571 (810MB)
> ??? (1.08GB)
> Sector Interleave 1:1
> Buffer Size ???KB (810MB)
> 64K (1.08GB)
> Shock Rating (Gs): Operating ??
> Non-operating ??
> Auto Park N/A
> Maximum Number of Internal Hard Drives 1
> Maximum Aggregate Capacity 1 x 1.08GB (3n)
> TAPE STORAGE
> Internal Tape Drive Support No
> External Tape Drive Support Yes
> Parallel Port Drives Yes
> PCMCIA-Connected Drives Yes
> DESCRIPTION 2640-50A/50C/E0A/E0C/F0D/F0E/F0G
> KEYBOARD
> Keyboard Type 84/85-key (9s)
> Numeric Keypad Optional (9s)
> External Keyboard Supported Yes
> LED Indicators on Keyboard Yes
> Popup Tilt Keyboard No
> Keyboard Slope ???
> Palm Rest ???
> Trackball Integrated into Keyboard No
> TrackPoint III Integrated into Keyboard Yes
> Extra TrackPoint III caps Yes (3)
> Quiet Keyboard Operation Yes
> SECURITY
> Bolt-Down Option ???
> C2 Security Enabled ???
> Electronic Personalization Feature Yes (h)
> Hard Disk Drive Password No
> Kensington Lock Slot Yes
> Keyboard Password Yes (provided by operating system)
> Keylock-Locks Cover No
> Locks Keyboard No
> Locks Entire System No
> Power-on Password Yes
> Unattended Startup Mode ???
> Privileged Access Password No
> Supervisor Password Yes
> Vital Product Data (VPD) Enabled No
> DESCRIPTION 2640-50A/50C/E0A/E0C/F0D/F0E/F0G
> PHYSICAL FACTORS
> Footprint Type Notebook
> Dimensions: (Height/Width/Depth) 1.22" (31mm) / 11.7" (297mm) / 8.7"
> (222mm)
> Weight (With Battery) 4.1 lbs (1.86 kg) (EOA/EOC/F0D/FOE/FOG)
> 4.12 lbs (1.87 kg) (50A/50C)
> Spare Battery Weight 0.67 lbs (302 g)
> Removable Diskette Drive Weight 0.56 lbs (255 g)
> 1.08GB HDD Weight 0.32 lbs (144 g)
> ThinkPad 560 Port Replicator Weight 0.73 lbs (331 g)
> Carrying Case Optional
> ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS
> AC Adapter (Universal) Yes
> Specifications ??W, 100-240 VAC, 50/60Hz
> Amperage at: 90-137 VAC 1.0
> 100-265 VAC 0.55
> Operating Range: Temperature 41-95� F (0-8,000 ft - without
> diskette)
> 50-95� F (0-8,000 ft - with diskette in
> drive)
> 41-88� F (8-10,000 ft - without diskette)
> 50-88� F (8-10,000 ft - with diskette in
> drive)
> Relative Humidity 8-95% (without diskette)
> 8-80% (with diskette in drive)
> Maximum Operating Altitude(ft) 10,000
> Maximum Shock (Non-operating) ?? G's
> Maximum Vibration (Operating) ?? G's
> Heat (BTUs/Hour) 136
> Noise (Avg dB, Operating, 1m) 5.1 bels
> Classification 3D (office)
> MISCELLANEOUS
> Software Preloaded Windows 95 (50A/50C/E0A/E0C/F0E/F0G)
> (3v)
> OS/2 Warp Connect with WIN-OS/2 (F0D)
> CISPR Approval 22 Class B
> CSA Approval (Canada) C22.2 No. 950
> FCC Certification (USA) Class B
> UL Approval (USA) 1950
> NOM Approval (Mexico) Yes
> SASO Approval (Saudi Arabia) Yes
> VCCI Approval (Japan) Class 2 (0 dB)
> Warranty Period 1 Year
> International Warranty Service Yes (7n)
> Countries Warranty Service Valid In 80+
> On-site/Carry-in Carry-in, or EasyServ (in U.S./Canada)
> Announcement Letter Numbers PCC96-229 (50A/50C/E0A/E0C/F0E/F0G)
> PCC96-281 (F0D)
> Date Announced 21May96 (50A/50C/E0A/E0C/F0E/F0G)
> 25Jun96 (F0D)
> Date Withdrawn N/A
>
> On Thu, 2 Jun 2011, Jackie McBride wrote:
>
>> Karen, it really depends on how familiar u r w/linux, etc. Vinux comes
>> up talking right out of the box. I would argue that it isn't so much
>> for people who are "windows minded", but rather for those who are new
>> to linux & don't wish to dive in w/both feet into both a new OS &
>> trying to configure it for speech/braille/magnifier use as well. In
>> other words, its niche is for sight-impaired linux newbies. Having
>> said that, though, it has plenty of stuff for the advanced users to
>> play with as well. It does by default come up speaking using orca. I
>> would urge u that if u have questions about vinux to consider joining
>> the vinux mailing list. I can supply that address if you're
>> interested. They're a very supportive & friendly group--Tony, Mo,
>> Niber, Storm, Bill Cox, & others really do a good job putting it
>> together.
>>
>> Another thing u might wish to consider is Knoppix-adrianne, which also
>> comes up speaking. GRML does not, but speakup is built in. It, too,
>> comes up in some sort of weird graphical menu by default. I believe u
>> press tab at the boot prompt, then write speakup, & at the end u write
>> speakup=synth. Consult the docs on that if you're interested.
>>
>> Slackware can also be used as a talking distro. Of all the linux
>> distros, that's probably the lightest weight 1 of the lot.
>>
>> U should really supply the specs for your machine so folks can be of
>> more assistance. Anyway, hth.
>>
>> On 6/2/11, Karen Lewellen <klewellen at shellworld.net> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> normally I denote like such discussions, but I have a specific reason for
>>> asking.
>>> I have an IBM thinkpad 560f or so that I am wanting to convert to Linux.
>>> it is my dos laptop right now, but I am about to upgrade to thinkpad 600x
>>> for that purpose.
>>> Everything I read about debian motivates me in that direction, but I am
>>> not sure which flavor is best for such a machine. it has a fine external
>>> 9 pin port for a synthesizer, so I should? be fine on that front.
>>> Still there is all this buzz about vinux so I thought I would get
>>> advantages and disadvantages. I admit the discussion on the speakup list
>>> about a bug in the source distro for vinux has me wanting to skip
>>> this...along with that distro being best for the windows minded smiles.
>>> Thoughts on my goals?
>>> Karen
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list at redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Blame the computer--why not? It can't defend itself & occasionally
>> might even be the culprit
>> Jackie McBride
>> Jaws Scripting training materials:
>> www.screenreaderscripting.com
>> homePage: www.abletec.serverheaven.net
>>
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Blame the computer--why not? It can't defend itself & occasionally
might even be the culprit
Jackie McBride
Jaws Scripting training materials:
www.screenreaderscripting.com
homePage: www.abletec.serverheaven.net
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