gdm talking login is back for me in Fedora 20

Albert Sten-Clanton albert.e.sten_clanton at
Sat Apr 26 02:38:38 UTC 2014

Hi, Janina:

As far as I can recall, I've always booted into the graphical environment.
I think I tried to kill the gnome desktop as a whole oly once, and whatever
I did was wrong and seemed to have no bearing on when I lost my talking

I regularly kill and restart Orca, and sometimes gnome-terminal or
Thunderbird, because speech commonly wipes out for reasons I have not
figured out.  Again, though, there seems to be no connection between that
and losing the talking login.

The only thing I can correlate with the disappearance and later reappearance
of the talking login is that each event followed a Fedora 20 update.  (I
don't think this problem occurred earlier:  earlier, at least twice, there
was the problem of Speakup getting out of sync with the updates.)

I'm sorry I don't have more light to shed on this thing.


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 11:55 PM
To: Linux for blind general discussion
Subject: Re: gdm talking login is back for me in Fedora 20

Hi, Al:

My experience has been that it isn't there consistently.

If you boot directly into the graphical environment, I do believe you will
have talking GDM.

If, however, for any reason you find it necessary to restart the desktop,
you will not have it unless you kill speech-dispatcher after shutting the
desktop down, e.g.:

systemctl stop gdm
killall speech-dispatcher
systemctl start gdm

I'd be interested in your experience with restarts, as I believe this is a
bug that should probably be filed against gdm. It should be trivial for gdm
to check for an existing speech-dispatcher--which will be owned by another
user, so won't function for gdm. gdm should be able to manage a restart of
speech-dispatcher, however, to clear this up.


Al Sten-Clanton writes:
> I did an update yesterday.  On rebooting this morning, I got the 
> pleasant surprise of the talking login's return.  I have no idea what 
> killed it a couple of months or what brought it back to life today, 
> but I'm glad its back.
> Al
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