console speech

Fri Jun 3 13:17:51 UTC 2016

Sure, the difference for you is all the hard work someone put in to
create a working speechd_up for Vinux.

Please note that speechd_up isn't maintained, and is not trivial to
build. The point is that it's not available on most Linux distros, and
the default pulse environment which most distros do provide isn't
compatible with drivers supporting Speakup.

Maybe someone has news on this front? Perhaps with tweaks to espeak? I'm
not aware there's anything.

Janina

Christopher Chaltain writes:
> I'm not sure I'd say Pulse is not compatible with SpeakUp. I use Pulse and
> SpeakUp all of the time. I'm running Vinux, and I just execute sudo
> speechd-up before logging into a console, and this gives me speech in the
> console. This tells me there's something else at play here besides just
> Pulse and SpeakUp.
> 
> On 02/06/16 13:33, Alonzo Cuellar wrote:
> > Hi Janina
> > 
> > Yes... Pulse is not compatible with speakup. I do miss the console
> > environment. However, I've learned   to life with the desktop
> > environment. Since I've not tried using a pure alsa system in ages...
> > I'm not sure how stable it is. Pulse has been very stable in my
> > experiences using the desktop.
> > 
> > 
> > Alonzo
> > 
> > 
> > On 06/01/2016 08:58 AM, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > Alonzo:
> > > 
> > > If you're satisfied with working on the desktop alone, then you have
> > > pulse support in Speech-Dispatcher and Orca. But this thread was about
> > > console speech. I believe most of us who value the console environment
> > > have not found pulse compatible with Speakup--which is what most use on
> > > the console for a screen reader.
> > > 
> > > Janina
> > > 
> > > Alonzo Cuellar writes:
> > > > hello,
> > > > 
> > > > My thoughts. Pulse Audio has more functionality then Alsa. Alsa is
> > > > great for
> > > > a low level system meaning only command line access. If you run a
> > > > graphical
> > > > environment you will not be able to get discovery of sound automatically
> > > > unless of course you write some sort of scripts for Alsa.
> > > > 
> > > > I happen to think though that when Pulse Audio was beginning to be
> > > > upon the
> > > > Linux community most of us who used Espeakup relied on Alsa heaviely.
> > > > Now
> > > > its a bit of a problem for a user who wants the desktop experience.
> > > > 
> > > > Thats just what I see.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > alonzo
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On 05/26/2016 09:32 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > > > > Once pulseaudio is purged, try powering off the system then start the
> > > > > system up again and find out what happens.  If everything works, the
> > > > > system will reconfigure to account for the absence of pulseaudio and
> > > > > you
> > > > > should have speech back again once that happens.
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, 26 May 2016, Mark Peveto wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 03:32:44
> > > > > > From: Mark Peveto <southernprince73 at gmail.com>
> > > > > > Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> > > > > > To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: console speech
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Tried, but it totally jacked up my sound after that.  I'm having to
> > > > > > reinstall again.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On 05/25/2016 01:58 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > > > > > > Mark has to get rid of pulseaudio and all of its dependencies.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Wed, 25 May 2016, Willem van der Walt wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 14:10:06
> > > > > > > > From: Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt at csir.co.za>
> > > > > > > > Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion
> > > > > > > > <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: console speech
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Get rid of pulseaudio.
> > > > > > > > You should be able to google how to do that on your distro.
> > > > > > > > HTH, Willem
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Wed, 25 May 2016, Mark Peveto wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I'm at my witt's end!  I'm working with f123, a manjaro
> > > > > > > > > based distro, and have had really good luck, until it
> > > > > > > > > comes to console speech using espeakup.
> > > > > > > > > It'll speak for about 30 seconds, then I get a
> > > > > > > > > pulseaudio error that looks like this.
> > > > > > > > > assirtion 'p' failed at pulse/simple.c:273, function
> > > > > > > > > pa_simple_write(). Aborting.
> > > > > > > > > It's shot me down on every manjaro based distro I've
> > > > > > > > > tried. Others have seemed to get speech in console, but
> > > > > > > > > I can't seem to make it happen. Vinux has
> > > > > > > > > it, and if i have to i'll put vinux on both machines,
> > > > > > > > > but that seems a little nuts.  I like vinux, and am
> > > > > > > > > using it now, but would also like the
> > > > > > > > > opportunity to work with these other distros.  I've been
> > > > > > > > > able to install my favorite programs, but trying to use
> > > > > > > > > them from a terminal just doesn't read
> > > > > > > > > well, so I need the console.
> > > > > > > > > Oh, and before someone says google it, I've done that
> > > > > > > > > for a week. Nothing helps.  LOL!
> > > > > > > > > Mark Peveto
> > > > > > > > > Registered Linux user number 600552
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> > > > > > > > > 
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