Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

Linux for blind general discussion blinux-list at
Tue Apr 18 19:25:16 UTC 2017


It's a good idea, indeed. FYI, Debian has started a such project in Blends:

Maybe it can be a point of beginning of a packages list with a tree?

Alternatively, to create a kind of structure of packages with deps, we
can use a wiki such as


Le 18/04/2017 à 17:23, Eric Oyen a écrit :
> here is one thing that might be distro independent: create an accessibility package set. This would include the required libs, scripts, binaries and config files needed to make any distro accessible. It would include emacspeak, BrlTTY, ORCA, the appropriate audio drivers and libraries and even access to the kernel modules required to make it all work.
> Now, since some of the packages needed will be dependencies for other things (like sound and scripting like python), it shouldn't be all that difficult to gather everything else. 
> Having this setup so that any distro can be made accessible would definitely be a plus. Honestly, making this a standard package set will go a long way toward allowing us access to any distro, regardless of package management system, layout or Desktop environment.
> -eric
> On Apr 18, 2017, at 7:28 AM, John G Heim wrote:
>> Just fedora? Not vidora or something like that? Hey, if you guys end up calling your distro vidora, I want credit. :-)
>> I look at the debate over whether it is better to have a distro for the blind or to work on improving mainstream distros like the debate over barley versus wheat beers. Personally, I prefer barley beers over any and all wheat beers. But if someone wants to brew a wheat beer, it's fine with me and I'd even help out if they asked. It's a matter of good and better. In other words, my opinion is that even if you think it would be better if these developers spent their time on mainstream distros, we should all still recognize that what they are doing is really helpful.  Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
>> On 04/18/2017 08:45 AM, Jude dDaShiell wrote:
>>> Last i read, both sonargnulinux and vinux were in the process of merging
>>> into Fedora and that first release was supposed to have happened
>>> sometime in April 2017 and would be called Fedora 26.0.  What has
>>> happened since then I do not now know.
>>> Sent from BlueMail <> for iPhone
>>> On Apr 18, 2017 at 6:32 AM, Tony Baechler <tony at
>>> <mailto:tony at>> wrote:
>>> Sorry for the late reply, but see comments below.
>>> On 3/16/2017 3:36 PM, Joel Roth wrote:
>>>> Eric Oyen wrote:
>>>>> ...we, as a community, don't have an actual unified distro
>>>>> to call our own. Sure, Vinux is a decent distro, but it's
>>>>> lacking a lot of useful features outside of accessibility.
>>> OK, but why do we, as a community, need a special distro? Yes, it's free
>>> software, so there is certainly nothing stopping you as long as you realize
>>> it's your pet distro along with the about 300 others on
>>> <>. I
>>> would much rather have a popular, mainstream distro which includes great
>>> accessibility like Debian and derivatives.
>>>> I'm not sure how things are at present, but in the past,
>>>> Debian has shown some commitment to supporting
>>>> accessibility[1], including at the installer level[2].
>>> Yes, Debian still supports accessibility. Every alpha release of D-I has
>>> accessibility features and fixes.
>>>> This is not the same as a special-purpose distribution, and
>>>> I think the pages were written some time ago. Still I would
>>>> think that some effort would be worthwhile, and would
>>>> benefit all Debian derivatives, which could include
>>>> a accessbility-centric distribution.
>>>> 1.
>>>> 2.
>>> These pages should be fairly current and are often updated by Debian
>>> developers like Samuel Thibault.
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