Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

Linux for blind general discussion blinux-list at
Mon Apr 24 11:22:37 UTC 2017

My God! No one is /making/ you use it! It, is, a, choice, damn it! Just
	because one person wants it one way doesn’t mean it’s how it
	/has/ to be!
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Email: r.d.t.prater at
Long days and pleasant nights!

Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at> writes:

> No. F12 does not mean time in any language. F12 may be a Jaws thing,
> and it may even be an NVDA thing, but it's far from a standard. Last I
> checked, time wasn't spelled with an f anything. Therefore, f12
> telling me the time is stupid and illogical at best. I want my t damn
> it. T for time, t for tell, t for anything you like, but don't make me
> learn a completely stupid and illogical key combination simply because
> some proprietary power decided long ago that t for time was somehow
> insufficient. If you want f12 or even the page down key to tell you
> the time, by all means, please do configure Orca that way, for
> yourself. Those of us who have used Orca, and even those of us who
> came to Orca from somewhere else, fully appreciate the benefits of
> Orca's mnemonic keybindings over the stupid and illogical ones we had
> to learn in other screen readers just to get them to do basic things.
> ~Kyle
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