OT: ACB & NFB

Linux for blind general discussion blinux-list at redhat.com
Wed Apr 26 16:53:45 UTC 2017


> Tony Baechler here. I don't know who you are...

Amanda Lacy. Sorry I forgot to sign my message - this new list format
is confusing.

> They tried to take my SSI ...

Wow! All, or just some? What for? Asking you to pay some rent would
make sense,,, but nobody pays all their money toward rent. I went to
Criss Cole which I believe is not one of the official NFB centers, and
they did not ask for any money.

On 4/26/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
> Tony Baechler here. I don't know who you are, but I thank you! I couldn't
> agree more! I went to the LCB. That was the worst month of my life! They
> tried to take my SSI (I guess I shouldn't be allowed to manage my own
> money), wouldn't help me learn even basic tasks and told me to sink or swim.
>
> Huh? What about training? I'm a cane user and I don't like dogs out of
> preference. Guide dogs were absolutely forbidden. Too bad if you have some
> vision as you weren't allowed to use it. Oh, you need help in cooking class?
>
> Too bad for you! I was very much a believer in the NFB until then, but no
> more! I was a member at large of the ACB, but am not currently a member of
> either. Of the two, the ACB is far more welcoming and friendly. I would join
>
> them just for that reason, but I think their structured negotiation method
> of getting things done as opposed to suing the pants off everyone works much
>
> better and makes the blind look better. The NFB has benefitted from what the
>
> ACB has done, just as the ACB has. I'm starting to see those few, rare times
>
> when both worked together. I predict that within 20 years, they merge. Also,
>
> the ACB split off the NFB in 1961.
>
> On 4/25/2017 4:05 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> NFB members at a training center alienated me through their rigid
>> insistence on straight canes and failure to account for the
>> multiply-disabled or congenitally blind in training methods. I also
>> couldn't stomach their idea that I should run all my words and actions
>> through the "how does this make all blind people look" filter, or that
>> becoming normal should be my ultimate goal. Several of us in here
>> would have to lose a bunch of IQ points to be considered normal. And,
>> I hate the Borg.
>>
>> That was over a decade ago. I'm on some of their mailing lists and I
>> have some of their folding) canes since those are useful things. I
>> won't join, but I've met some interesting individual members.
>>
>> On 4/25/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>> The ACB's lawsuit against the U.S. Department of the Treasury to make
>>> them make money accessible was already flawed to say the least.
>>> According to the United States Constitution, the power to design money
>>> has been delegated to Congress, and the Department of the Treasury is
>>> only responsible for carrying out the orders of Congress. Therefore, the
>>> best way to make money accessible would have been for any and all
>>> so-called advocacy organizations to lobby Congress and get a bill passed
>>> and signed by the President of the United States that would redesign our
>>> money in an accessible way. Do I think the ACB's lawsuit was a publicity
>>> stunt? Absolutely, as if they wanted us to have accessible money for
>>> sure, they would have gone through the proper channels and we would have
>>> had it by now. Instead, where are we? No closer to truly accessible
>>> currency than we were when this whole sleighride begen nearly 10 years
>>> ago. Thank you, ACB and NFB for being such advocates for the needs of
>>> blind and visually impaired citizens of the United States. Without your
>>> petty bickering and your "We're not them" attitudes, the world would
>>> certainly be a better and more friendly place for all of us.
>>>
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