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Fri Dec 15 16:08:12 UTC 2017

I am going to clarify based on the experience I just had.
First of all, I don't know a lot of the terminology used in some of 
these messages, they're like trying to understand Chinese.
Secondly, you are supposed to enable the Linux subsystem feature with 
Windows Power Shell in administration mode.  Restart your computer, and 
in settings, enable developer mode in Windows update. Then, open command 
prompt, not Power Shell, and type bash. It'll immediately download 
Ubuntu 16.04 by default. It'll prompt you for new Unix user name and 
password. Note, this is still the command prompt terminal. No additional 
windows were opened, no booting was required, it runs alongside, similar 
to a VM. The best part is that it uses the same Windows file explorer to 
store all of your files. For example, I'm trying to see if I can build 
and install the Festival, Festvox, and Flite tools to try and make a 
speech synthesiser. Somebody did this on a Linode server running Ubuntu 
14.04 that also had no audio input or output, since you're remoting into 
it via SSH.
I'm not sure at which point where stability will become an issue, 
because so far I haven't had any.
On 12/13/2017 8:51 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Hi,
> Will it be different? Of course. Just think of all the apps on a typical
> Linux /usr/bin/. Is that sufficiently different from Power Shell? I
> think so.
> Let alone whatever else one might install, e.g. mplayer, irssi, gdb,
> etc., etc.
> If all you need is what you describe, I expect you don't care, though.
> That's OK. Others will certainly want the additional tooling, let alone
> bash scripting.
> Janina
> Linux for blind general discussion writes:
>> Hi,
>> I can already use Windows Power Shell with Scoop and Open SSH, thanks to
>> a line of code someone sent me. I pasted it into Windows Power Shell,
>> and then I let it install everything. Now, whenever I need to access my
>> server, I launch Windows Power Shell, type ssh user at hostname and press
>> enter. Will this be any different from what I am doing now? In the past,
>> I used Secure CRT and Putty with Win SCP, but now I find that all I ened
>> is Windows Power Shell and Win SCP.
>> -Ulysses
>> On 12/13/2017 7:32 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> Hello, Blinux Folks:
>>> No doubt many of you are aware that the developer tools available on
>>> Microsoft's Windows 10, beginning with last year's so-called Anniversary
>>> Edition of Windows 10, include a reasonably sophisticated bash shell
>>> environment based on Ubuntu. Microsoft developed this environment in a
>>> contractual agreement with Canonical.
>>> So, with the appropriate Windows 10 install, one can now run various
>>> console apps under the Windows Terminal, including package management
>>> with apt, using NVDA or JAWS.
>>> I have it on good authority that JAWS will be tweaking it's support for
>>> the Windows terminal to better support this new power.
>>> Well, that's not the end of the story, as it transpires. Coming soon,
>>> according to the following announcement, is the ability to download and
>>> install other Linux distributions on your Windows 10 machine including
>>> Suse and Fedora. Aparently, one can even run multiple Linux
>>> distributions side by side, should that be desirable for any reason.
>>> Here's the Microsoft announcement:
>>> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2017/05/11/new-distros-coming-t
>>> So, I'm wondering where will our community gather to share support for
>>> this environment? Afaik, this list is still the best choice. I'm aware
>>> of no other. But, I know there's a need.
>>> An example is the need for an effective clipboard mechanism. Apparently,
>>> that's not currently present.  Guess I'll file a bug when I get my Apple
>>> Bootcamp Windows environment up and running later this week.
>>> hth
>>> Janina
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