working with nano

Linux for blind general discussion blinux-list at
Sun Jun 18 16:28:06 UTC 2017

Yes I was introduced to pilot, a good file management program.  I still use
it in the terminal.

When an update to a mac port of alpine is available pilot still is included
in the package for alpine.

Btw, the most recent version for nano is 2.8.4 in a mac port.
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Were you also introduced to pilot another one of alpine's extras as
> well?  If anyone used dos earlier in their lives and liked nswp you'll
> also like pilot.
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 09:28:22
>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at>
>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at>
>> Subject: Re: working with nano
>> I was introduced to nano by pico the default editor with the alpine mail
>> client loaded when composing or replying to mail.  It was part of the
>> alpine package and could be used indenpendently as a text editor.
>> Nano is a much improved pico and can be substituted for use in alpine.
>> In the '90's I used dial up to a shell acount to use alpine and used pico and
>> later nano as my text editor.
>> Currently I use both in the terminal of a mac.
>> The key to making best use of nano is to configure the features one wants in
>> the nanorc file.  This includes key mapping for each option with ctrl+letter.
>> The port for the mac comes with a text nanorc.sample file which notates all
>> the options.
>> If this is not available in other distributions I would be happy to send it
>> as an attachment.
>> On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> Yes, this thread is interesting.  I think I'll try some of what people
>>> have suggested.  I've tried nano a few times, but I clearly didn't find
>>> all the places where I could learn to make it do more of what I wanted.
>>> In 1979, the only thing I knew about computers was that I didn't have
>>> one.  I was in school for another line of work.  My serious time on
>>> computers began in the spring of 1989, and I got at least half-seriously
>>> into Linux in around 2005.  At that time, such editing as I did was
>>> using emacs, but mostly I've used vim.
>>> Anyway, I appreciate the info on this thread.
>>> Al
>>> On 06/16/2017 11:24 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> 	This has been an interesting thread so far. I began using
>>>> unix in 1989 on a DEC system which used the trade name of Ultrix
>>>> and the standard editor was vi so I've stuck with vi ever since
>>>> since it is so common.
>>>> 	Well, ultrix went away many years ago and my working
>>>> group used Sunos for several years as well as IBM's aix and
>>>> finally Linux and I kept using vi.
>>>> 	To me, nano was and mostly still is that aggravating
>>>> application one gets on a new Debian system before we have time
>>>> to fix it.
>>>> 	I have on rare occasions used it long enough to do
>>>> something that just had to be done quickly and wasn't too
>>>> complicated but the first thing I noticed was that rather echoing
>>>> the characters I was typing, it echoed the current column number
>>>> on the line which is probably what happens with show-cursor on.
>>>> 	As I said, this usually happens when you are trying to
>>>> fix something that is seriously broken and people are waiting and
>>>> breathing down one's neck so I have never been too happy to hear
>>>> "gnu nano 2.x.y" instead of what one usually hears when vi or vim
>>>> fires up and one knows what the keys do so you can concentrate on
>>>> the task at hand.
>>>> 	Shortly before I retired, one of my coworkers asked me if
>>>> I would put nano on the FreeBSD system we were using as the unix
>>>> machine in our department. I installed it with no problem and
>>>> realized that I was dealing with someone who was used to nano and
>>>> didn't like to use vi any more than I liked to be forced to use
>>>> nano so as far as I was concerned, it was turn abouts, fair play.
>>>> It's kind of a case of saying "yes" when you possibly can rather
>>>> than hassling somebody over basically nothing.
>>>> 	When I first started out in 1989, I was using an EchoGP
>>>> hardware synth through an IBM PC/XT running DOS and kermit as the
>>>> terminal emulator and I now use Debian Linux with speakup. These
>>>> are the good old days right now-- not perfect, but certainly
>>>> better than when I first started using computers which was 1979
>>>> on an Apple II followed in the eighties by IBM PC's and clones.
>>>> 	By the way, elvis was a DOS version of vi that I used a
>>>> lot back in the day. Don't forget that we all walked 5 miles up
>>>> hill to and from school in the snow even in Summer.
>>>> Martin McCormick
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