Orca does not speak

Linux for blind general discussion blinux-list at redhat.com
Tue Jan 15 13:37:40 UTC 2019

There are two subtle distinctions you're not catching.
First when a process gets killed and then replaced that process gives up
its original process id number and when the process is replaced, it gets
a new usually higher process id number.  Sometimes another process may
conflict with the lower process id number and screen-reader/orca getting
a higher number escapes that conflict.  So replace is absolutely
technically correct but you have to learn more about computer hardware
and computer software to understand that.  A college class on computer
hardware/software can help in this regard.

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 08:27:03
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> To: blinux-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: Orca does not speak
> Maybe there's some subtle distinction I'm not catching, but saying it
> kills the running process and replaces it with a new one sounds like a
> convoluted way of saying it restarts the process, and I think most who
> aren't trying to justify the wording of the switch would say it
> restarts the program. Actually, if I remember correctly, the original
> answer to what the --replace switch does was "it restarts orca" or
> something to that effect, and the more detailed answer only came up
> when someone pointed out the odd wording.
> --replace might be technically correct, but it still strikes me as
> using a word in an unusual context most won't understand without
> explanation when a different word would get the meaning across without
> explanation. Kind of reminds me of how Americans sometimes have
> trouble understanding Brits because of common words that vary greatly
> in their common definition on opposite sides of the pond(and for all I
> know, replace might be commonly understood in this context in some
> part of the anglosphere other than my own).
> I understand the explanation for why the switch is --replace, but I'd
> probably still call it --restart if I was going to include such
> functionality in a program I wrote myself.
> On a more humorous note, without the context that orca -r restarts
> orca, I'd probably be wondering what a screen reader could possibly
> reverse or recurse since those are the most common things a -r or -R
> switch do.
> --Jeff
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