A question about Fenrir on Arch linux

Linux for blind general discussion blinux-list at redhat.com
Fri May 21 17:34:01 UTC 2021 

Good so far, where is sound going?  Slint uses libao for this rather than
pulse or alsa.


On Fri, 21 May 2021, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Hello there,
>
>
> Yes I have run Spd-conf, but no luck. the output module is set to espeak-ng.
>
> Best regards.
>
> Francisco
>
> On 5/21/21 4:17 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > Have you run spd-conf and selected espeak-ng as your synthesizer for
> > speech-dispatcher?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 21 May 2021, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >
> >> Hello there,
> >>
> >>
> >> removing espeak doesn't fix it, the same problem still persists.
> >>
> >> Best regards.
> >>
> >> Francisco.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/21/21 12:36 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >>> Howdy
> >>>
> >>>> I have espeak, sox, and xclip installed, plus pulseaudio,
> >>>> pulseaudio-alsa,
> >>>> alsa-utils and plugins.
> >>> espeak-ng is used by default instead of espeak. espeak-ng is the successor
> >>> of espeak. do take care to not install espeak but espeak-ng and give
> >>> another
> >>> shot :).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Am 21.05.21 um 11:47 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> >>>> Hello there,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Just for the heck of it, I redid a clean install of arch with pulseaudio
> >>>> this time, and I configured everything I needed running the sh script you
> >>>> indicated.
> >>>>
> >>>> It half works, and half doesn't.
> >>>>
> >>>> What I mean by that is that when I restarted the machine, just a few
> >>>> seconds ago and ran fenrir as sudoer, it played the sound icon, thing
> >>>> that
> >>>> with pipewire didn't happen, but gave me no speech at all.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have espeak, sox, and xclip installed, plus pulseaudio,
> >>>> pulseaudio-alsa,
> >>>> alsa-utils and plugins.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any suggestions?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks again.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards.
> >>>>
> >>>> Francisco.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 5/18/21 5:06 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >>>>> Howdy,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> do you have the requirements for the generic sound / voice drivers
> >>>>> installed?
> >>>>> To get sure, reinstall it execute:
> >>>>> sudo pacman -S sox espeak-ng xclip
> >>>>>
> >>>>> sox is used for play sound, espeak for voice output in the default
> >>>>> configuration, xclip is a funny toy to let fenrir share the clipboard
> >>>>> between your GUI and Terminal.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> start fenrir for testing in foreground - you can stop it using CTRL + C
> >>>>> sudo fenrir
> >>>>>
> >>>>> did you hear the startup sound? fenrir plays a little soundicon at
> >>>>> startup.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> if not, then pulseaudio is not configured.
> >>>>> short story execute:
> >>>>> # configure user
> >>>>> /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh
> >>>>> # configure root
> >>>>> sudo /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh
> >>>>>
> >>>>> # need to restart that the configuration for both get active
> >>>>>
> >>>>> restart
> >>>>>
> >>>>> then retry
> >>>>>
> >>>>> sudo fenrir
> >>>>>
> >>>>> long storry: fenrir needs by default to run as root to collect the data
> >>>>> on
> >>>>> your screen or caputre the input devices. if fenrir speaks or creates
> >>>>> sound, it does this as root user. you wont hear sound of an other user
> >>>>> by
> >>>>> pulseaudio (sound server) design. We need to transport the sound created
> >>>>> as root to the sound server you have running as user to finally hear the
> >>>>> sound.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> fenrir provides 2 scripts (see above) to configure the root puse audio
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> send the data to your user and configure user pulse audio to listen to
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> sound sent by root and play it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> cheers chrys
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 18.05.21 um 14:46 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hello there,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks so much, now, that part of the problem is solved!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The other part, how ever, that is not solved, is that fenrir doesn't
> >>>>>> speak with espeak, or espeak-ng.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Do I have to set something somewhere for that to happen?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks again.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best regards.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Francisco.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 5/18/21 10:24 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >>>>>>> Howdy Francisco,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> i dont know why those libs are not an dependency by python-pyenchant
> >>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>> those are spread warnings. Maybe this should be reported to the
> >>>>>>> package
> >>>>>>> maintainer. But anyway.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> you can ask pacman what package contains the specific file you need by
> >>>>>>> "sudo pacman -Fy filename". here i did this for for example in
> >>>>>>> libvokko.so:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 10:14 [chrys at blackbeast ~] :) $ sudo pacman -Fy libvoikko.so
> >>>>>>> [sudo] Passwort f?r chrys:
> >>>>>>> :: Synchronisiere Paketdatenbanken...
> >>>>>>>  core 903,5 KiB  6,17 MiB/s 00:00
> >>>>>>> [#########################################################################]
> >>>>>>> 100%
> >>>>>>>  extra 9,3 MiB  26,9 MiB/s 00:00
> >>>>>>> [#########################################################################]
> >>>>>>> 100%
> >>>>>>>  community 22,8 MiB  29,6 MiB/s 00:01
> >>>>>>> [#########################################################################]
> >>>>>>> 100%
> >>>>>>>  multilib 222,5 KiB  12,8 MiB/s 00:00
> >>>>>>> [#########################################################################]
> >>>>>>> 100%
> >>>>>>> extra/libvoikko 4.3.1-1
> >>>>>>>     usr/lib/libvoikko.so
> >>>>>>> 10:15 [chrys at blackbeast ~] :) $
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> so the package you need for libvokko.so is "libvoikko"
> >>>>>>> to silence out all the warnings do this:
> >>>>>>> sudo pacman -S libvoikko nuspell hspell
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> this install all 3 (IMO optional dependency's, what should not create
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>> warning, but well, it is like it is)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> i use irssi as IRC (commandline) client. there is also Pidgin (as
> >>>>>>> graphical client). both are very nice.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> looking forward to see you in IRC :).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> cheers chrys
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Am 18.05.21 um 08:57 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> >>>>>>>> Hello there,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I managed to install one of the libraries, but not the other two, so
> >>>>>>>> thanks for that.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Also, thanks for suggesting to use yay, I just installed it, I didn't
> >>>>>>>> know yaourt was deprecated.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> My question now is, and this'll be dum, what are recommended IRC
> >>>>>>>> clients? how do I get them working? what should I know before joining
> >>>>>>>> an IRC channel, what ever it might be?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks again.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Best regards.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Francisco.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 5/17/21 9:19 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Hi, I just posted a link to this message intended to chrys (Fenrir
> >>>>>>>>> author) on the #a11y channel of irc.linux-a11y.org.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Maybe join him there?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Didier
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Le 17/05/2021 ? 20:15, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit :
> >>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I just downloaded fenrir-git from the AUR using yaourt.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> When I try to run fenrir with the command
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> fenrir
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> in a terminal, how ever, i get fenrir's startup sound, and this:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> [francisco at Blueblink ~]$ fenrir
> >>>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.374: Error loading plugin:
> >>>>>>>>>> libhspell.so.
> >>>>>>>>>> 0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >>>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.374: Error loading plugin:
> >>>>>>>>>> libvoikko.so.
> >>>>>>>>>> 1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >>>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.377: Error loading plugin:
> >>>>>>>>>> libnuspell.so
> >>>>>>>>>> .4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Any ideas on how to fix it, and no speech either.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for any answer.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Best regards.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Francisco.
> >>>>>>>>>>
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