different desktops

[Linux for blind general discussion]

With which distribution have you tried cinnamon?

> On Apr 6, 2022, at 4:09 PM, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> It's getting better and if memory serves is almost up with mate.
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> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> 
>> Is Cinnamon as good and accessible as  Mate? If thaat's so, it's great then.
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 06, 2022 at 03:17:39PM -0400, Linux for blind general discussion
>> wrote:
>>> Cinnamon would qualify as a desktop and is supposed to be similar to mate
>>> in operation.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Just pointing out that Ratpoison+Strychnine, IceWm, Openbox and others
>>>> aren't
>>>> exactly full desktops, but are pretty much just the window manager side of
>>>> things. A full desktop would include at least one panel with system
>>>> tray/notification area, app indicators such as the battery monitor and
>>>> clock,
>>>> most of the time a file manager that doubles as a root window desktop that
>>>> can
>>>> include launchers and mount points and an application menu or some other
>>>> type
>>>> of launcher that allows you to see the applications on the system and
>>>> launch
>>>> them, usually grouped into various categories. Strychnine does do some of
>>>> this
>>>> for Ratpoison, but it's pretty much just a launcher menu and run window
>>>> type
>>>> of thing. Many components that would make it a full desktop are still
>>>> missing,
>>>> although it is possible to run Caja or Nautilus and possibly either
>>>> mate-panel
>>>> or gnome-panel along with it for a more full desktop experience if desired.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> About the best full desktop experience I've used is GNOME 2.x, which is
>>>> continued as the MATE desktop. Some panel applets don't necessarily speak
>>>> as
>>>> much as they should, for example, nm-applet, which is the network manager,
>>>> only says "panel," but for the most part, everything just works and is
>>>> navigable with only a keyboard, although I find Orca's "speak object under
>>>> mouse" to be fairly useful at times as well. GNOME 3.x and 40+ is another
>>>> option, but some things seem to be a little less usable than the MATE
>>>> desktop
>>>> overall. KDE is coming along, but is still in the early stages of a11y
>>>> development, so although many things are starting to work pretty well,
>>>> others
>>>> are still not quite usable at this stage. For full desktops, the only other
>>>> partially usable options are xfce, lxde and lxqt, and all of those seem to
>>>> be
>>>> getting a bit long in the tooth, and some of these are even starting to
>>>> lose
>>>> some of the accessibility they once had. So as full desktops go, my three
>>>> best
>>>> recommendations would be MATE, then GNOME, then KDE. And then there are the
>>>> window managers that include keyboard navigation, Ratpoison+Strychnine
>>>> probably being the best of those options, although I have heard that IceWM,
>>>> Fluxbox and Openbox, as well as possibly i3, can also be made more usable
>>>> with
>>>> either helper applications or hand-edited configuration files.
>>>> 
>>>> ~Kyle
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