Dragonfm questions/NNN query
Linux for blind general discussion
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Sat Apr 9 16:42:22 UTC 2022
Howdy,
i add your tweaks to master. I also added those to mime section for view
those files.
//Thoughts on having atool as a dependency for the AUR build?
well its already a optional dependency. its not directly required to run
dragonFM but only needed if you want to do compression stuff.
by the way, i added an toggle for hidden files / folder: shortcut: Alt + h
let me know if it works.
cheers chrys
Am 09.04.22 um 17:43 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> Sure, my tweaks are and nothing too major, just added in missing
> formats for decompressing files since I've run into a lot of
> tarballs/gzip files for example.these:
>
> application/zip=atool --force --quiet --extract-to={1} {0}
> application/gzip=atool --force --quiet --extract-to={1} {0}
> application/bzip2=atool --force --quiet --extract-to={1} {0}
> application/tar=atool --force --quiet --extract-to={1} {0}
>
> That takes care of the tar/bzip/gzip files such as tar.bz and tar.gz and
> I've not got a list of common file formats however, so if there's any I
> missed they can be added into the config.
> Thoughts on having atool as a dependency for the AUR build?
>
> On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 04:53:32PM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> glad to hear that you like it :).
>>
>> maybe you can send me your tweaks, then i can add them into master. so the
>> settings could raise to be more complete.
>>
>> there is currently no toggle for hidden files, you can just set this in
>> settings.conf
>> wait, I will add a toggle for you.
>>
>> cheers chrys
>>
>> Am 09.04.22 um 16:27 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>> That works great, I can open up my files in whatever app I like. I've made some tweaks to the config to account for tar/bzip/gzip files and other common archive formats as well, not sure what else I'm missing. This is like a way more useable Text Nautlius/Caja and it is flat out awesome now.
>>>
>>> One question. How would I set a shortcut to show/hide hidden folders and
>>> files?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 03:04:13PM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> Howdy,
>>>>
>>>> its me again, the placeholder "{0}" is not longer needed if the file path
>>>> has to be at the end of the open with command, but still could be used if
>>>> the file path is needed somewhere in the middle.
>>>> so now it should be enought to enter
>>>> gedit
>>>>
>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>
>>>> Am 09.04.22 um 14:58 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks, well we can improve it step by step. Its very flexible and very
>>>>> easy to extend (depends on skills to create symbolic links loool)
>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> the syntax is quite simple. just enter the how you would open it from
>>>>> shell but replace the filename with {0} (this is a placeholder for the
>>>>> complete filepath)
>>>>> for gedit this would just be
>>>>> gedit {0}
>>>>> for me gedit opens then with the selected file. this currently only
>>>>> works for files. if your cursor is on an folder, it opens the path
>>>>> currently in dragonFM.
>>>>> to me more comfortable, i could just add the {0} if it does not exist at
>>>>> the end.
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>> Am 09.04.22 um 14:34 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>>> Indeed it does. Thanks, DFM is a really neat bit of software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, how does the open with work? If I load up, say a text file and
>>>>>> hit open with... it gives me cat {0} | less
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's the syntax for that one? I tried typing in Gedit and got nothing,
>>>>>> tried Pluma, tried nano, no luck
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 02:30:48PM +0200, Linux for blind general
>>>>>> discussion wrote:
>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok this time it was gits fault. it didnt realize that i changed
>>>>>>> the symlink
>>>>>>> from the absolute to an relative path.
>>>>>>> so i hat to remove commit and reacreate commit :).
>>>>>>> now it works for real :).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 09.04.22 um 14:17 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>>>>> hmm still some issues,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> let me take a deeper look
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 09.04.22 um 14:09 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it should be fixed my friend. Sorry for that ^^.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 09.04.22 um 13:59 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>>>>>>> The simlink points to your home directory and shows up as a
>>>>>>>>>> broken simlink if I check. It's shown up as a symbolic link,
>>>>>>>>>> broken, pointing to /home/chrys/dragonfm/src...the .py script
>>>>>>>>>> that should be there there's a simlink instead.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OnSat, Apr 09, 2022 at 01:35:49PM +0200, Linux for blind general
>>>>>>>>>> discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i cant reproduce this here.
>>>>>>>>>>> I just did a look at git, looks like all files
>>>>>>>>>>> are pushed correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> maybe a collision with an work in progress commit, wrong
>>>>>>>>>>> branch or python
>>>>>>>>>>> cache?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i guess it must be a local issue, setup.py and PKGBUILD work
>>>>>>>>>>> as expected
>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 09.04.22 um 13:18 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure if that broke but on my end that's throwing up
>>>>>>>>>>>> a no such file for the open shell with... .py one when I
>>>>>>>>>>>> do sudo ./setup.py with a fresh install and doing in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> manual way. Not back on my Arch box right now so can't
>>>>>>>>>>>> test the pkgbuild though....but to replicate clone the
>>>>>>>>>>>> latest url and do sudo ./setup.py and watch for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> unable to copy error
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 01:05:18PM +0200, Linux for
>>>>>>>>>>>> blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> i just add an "open entry with shell" action.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently assigned to ctrl + o.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when you select a file, press ctrl + o an input box
>>>>>>>>>>>>> appears. there is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> default value (configureable in settings.conf section folder key
>>>>>>>>>>>>> openWithShellInitValue). pressing enter executes the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> command then. {0} is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the placeholder for the current selected file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you want
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ctrl + o for open
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ctrl + w for open with?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should i swap them or keep it as it is?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 09.04.22 um 12:34 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i just provided an PKGBUILD for dragonFM and uploaded it to AUR.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its currently a git package, as dragonFM does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not yet seen any stable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release ;).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name: dragonfm-git
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> url: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/dragonfm-git
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you already installed it using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setup.py you might need to remove
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflicting files from your filesystem fist. (as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setup.py does bypass
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the package manager)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i added an wildcard mime type. if there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific entry in the mime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list, the xdg-open pops up now. this might be more helpful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well, i will implement the open with for you. give me a second.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i will assign it to ctrl + o and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move the open action to ctrl + m.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 09.04.22 um 12:25 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure I can test the pkgbuild once I'm back on my Arch box
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that input box works fine. I'll suggest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+O as the shortcut for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it so you got Enter/Ctrl+M to open (o maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move open with to ctrl+M and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see how that works?), and a ctrl+O for open with?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AAh I didnt know about just exiting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shell. I assumed that'd close
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tab. My first thought was alright, fg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dragonfm to get back to it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11:13:25AM +0200, Linux for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind general
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Yes to putting it in the AUR and yes for the env stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK let me create a PKGBUILD for dragonfm-git
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // I'm poking at the config trying to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replicate NNN's open with and not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // having much luck. Is that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a case of remembering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to drop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a shell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // and doing what I need?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how does this look like? just a input dialog to enter any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current selected element as parameter?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // On that note...is there a way once I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hit F4, to get back to dragonfm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // easily without relaunching it from the shell?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well, just exit the shell (type "exit"), you will be back in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dragonfm then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 09.04.22 um 10:30 schrieb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux for blind general
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes to putting it in the AUR and yes for the env stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm poking at the config trying to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replicate NNN's open with and not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having much luck. Is that just a case of remembering to drop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a shell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and doing what I need?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On that note...is there a way once I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hit F4, to get back to dragonfm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easily without relaunching it from the shell?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 09:41:49AM +0200, Linux for blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is DragonFM in the Arch repo?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently its not. If you like it, i can put it into AUR.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 09.04.2022 um 07:54 schrieb Linux for blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is DragonFM in the Arch repo? Am trying to get it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with yay from this side.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 02:26:15AM +0200, Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok then i keep that alt + u.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That seems to work better, but does the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paytrion link you sent in another message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have the info on changing the shortcuts as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well i changed the shortcuts in master. So there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is no need to change them by others anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or what info you mean exactly?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is now at least a basic documentation :).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 09.04.2022 um 02:15 schrieb Linux for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind general discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay if it's just alt+u then yes keep it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that way. That seems to work better, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does the Paytrion link you sent in another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message have the info on changing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shortcuts as well?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 11:28:30PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +0200, Linux for blind general
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i installed Mate terminal for testing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Ctrl+D for details insteead of F10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok this is changed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about ^[u i was wrong. its just alt + u
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so a single ^ is Ctrl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sequence ^[ is alt if it is followed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by an letter. if not, its escape
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ctrl + alt + x would be ^[^C
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to Alt + u, this worked for me,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should i change the shortcut in any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // I'm trying to replace unzip and tar with atool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in section [mime] you see how to open an file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in section [compress] and [decompress]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can configure the de-/compressing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i changed this for you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compress (the word compress bevore the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equal is just the lable shown in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> context menu):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # {0} = Source: list of files separated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by space with absolut filepath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # {1} = Destination: archive name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compress=apack -q {1} {0}
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decompress (for zipfiles, you can just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copy that for any other format
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supported by atool and change the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application/zip to whatever mimetype you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to unzip):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # {0} = Source: file to decompress
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # {1} = Destination: folder with archive content
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application/zip=atool -f -q --extract-to={1} {0}
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i just pushed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 08.04.22
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> um 22:11
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> schrieb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure thing. Here''s what I whipped upp real quick
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+D for details insteead of F10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+alt+x for extract instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trl+alt+u (which doesnt seem to work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Mate?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to replace unzip and tar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with atool, how NNN handles it since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's a lot nicer to have one tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that handles a ton of formats
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having to hunt down 10 differrent programs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aside from that, not made any other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to the .conf file though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a neat little program, though
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just in case I missed any, go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and use DragonFM with a terminal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulator and see what you can come
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with for shortcuts? I'm on a laptop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently so that kind of hinders
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what I can do shortcuts wise however
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 10:03:27PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +0200, Linux for blind general
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, F123 was mostly TTY only.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So the bindings are set with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that in mind :). The project
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to momic GUI shortcuts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for most parts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The colliding shortcuts can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changed very easy in settings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you hand me a list with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shortcuts you want to have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changed, i change them for you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right in master.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As F123 is no more, TTY compat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not matter that much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore to me and we can improve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it in terminal emulators (most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of them have more capabilities
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than TTY in any way, for example
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> konsole ( the KDE terminal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulator has special escape
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sequences for shift arrow)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 08.04.2022 um 21:53
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> schrieb Linux for blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, DragonFM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't work well out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> box with a terminal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulator, mostly down to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflicts with keys like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F10. Yes I can redefine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, but that's kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something Im slwly slowly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poking at. I'm unable to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mate-terminal to recognize a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ctrl+alt patern hough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whereas a TTY works fine so,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsure if you need to test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dragonfm on terminal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulators with a desktop?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind of a shame since I like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how easy Dragon is to use vs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MC or Ranger or NNN (my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current favorite one that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't have keyboard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflicts) though
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:36:28PM +0200, Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for blind general
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well there is a context
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> menu ( dragonFM calls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it Details, because it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also shows file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> properties like size,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mime and a list of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available actions) with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all available options by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pressing F10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some actions are only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available for given mime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> types like compress
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current only for zip and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tar, others could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addad very easy. By
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default dragonfm does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not use atool but unzip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command for zip files
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and tar of course for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tar those need to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed or confured to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use something else. (I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can give you a more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detailed information how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to configure those stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you are interested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DragonFM reads the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Escape sequences from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stdin to detect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shortcuts (like almost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other CLI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some important basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translation help (we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should add the shortcuts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as comments to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings file lol )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^ = CTRL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ = Alt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uppercase letter = shift + letter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lowercase letter = just the letter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An other example:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^[u translates as ctrl + alt + u
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are some specials like arrow keys or escape.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Escape is translated by ^[
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (by the way many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shortcuts are similar to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other graphical file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> managers BUT shift +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arrow for mark files is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different as i could not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> figure how to read this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from an escape sequence,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uppercase arrow *smile*)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Development was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sponsored by F123
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project. Today known as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stormux. Sadly i did not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wire a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation but you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can ask me everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you want to know :).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 08.04.2022 um
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18:41 schrieb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux for blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I gave it a shot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it feels logical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and well laid out,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUt I'm struggling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a few things. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have it going and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to unzip an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> archive from within
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. In NNN I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just do that and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work with atool. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't seem to find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the keys to start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extracting an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> archive or how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dragonfm handles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that at all, Ive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only found unextract
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with ^(U in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config, which I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no clue what it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translates to in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terms of actual keys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aside from ctrl and U. It's the ( I'm stumped on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See my main gripe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with NNN is if I use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it in a terminal I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to hit O,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> w3m and c to open an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> html doc in w3m else
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it loads up in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Firefox. Now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> granted I've not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tried it on a pure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TTY but...on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terminal, xdg-open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overrides
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browser
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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