Thoughts on KDE Plasma as of right now

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Wonder if we could set that environment variable as KDE starts?
Devin Prater
r.d.t.prater at gmail.com




On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 10:34 AM Linux for blind general discussion <
blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:

> Howdy,
>
> > I mean, all I really need is the apps being fixed, things like
> > konsole, the various windows and programs and it's definitely useable.
> > Dolphin is surprisingly great, I went in expecting oh, it'll be a pain
> > to use.
> yes, most apps already got very basic support, but this needs to be
> improved a lot. first lets fix up most the desktop related components.
> Konsole should have basic accessibility support as well. but i think the
> handling in orca to VTE is very special black magic. this might need to
> be done for Konsole as well.
> the support for konsole is tracked at this task:
> https://phabricator.kde.org/T10099
> last thing was QT was missing the Terminal accessibility role. this was
> added then by frederik. so the work could here beeing continue as well.
>
> > The only show stopper or me, and I've not found a workaround yet, is
> > that the QT5 windows and panels do not read
> QT5 windows should be accessible by default. you might have to set an
> environment variable:
> set this to your ~/.bashrc file
> export QT_LINUX_ACCESSIBILITY_ALWAYS_ON=1 # for QT5 accessibility
>
> by the way, in latest plasma 5.25 there is a new shortcut to focus all
> available desktop panels Meta + Alt + p (it cycles between all available
> desktop panels and the desktop itself). the desktop panel and tray area
> is also now keyboard navigate able. But some accessibility labels are
> missing or could  be improved. this is next on my list.
>
> just to share the latest links i send to orca list:
> my blog post about current KDE accessibility team efforts:
> https://www.patreon.com/posts/68079468
>
> Carls current proposal to have accessibility as 3 year goal (this is a
> voting process):
> https://phabricator.kde.org/T15611
> my old proposal from 2019 to try to set accessibility as KDE goal (sadly
> not voted):
> https://phabricator.kde.org/T11074
> lets hope accessibility is set as KDE goal for now. this would be great
> and would give that a lot of love and attention.
>
> i will do a basic review of the current situation at weekend. for those
> are curious about KDEs accessibility state.
>
> cheers chrys
> Am 23.06.22 um 13:05 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> > I mean, all I really need is the apps being fixed, things like
> > konsole, the various windows and programs and it's definitely useable.
> > Dolphin is surprisingly great, I went in expecting oh, it'll be a pain
> > to use.
> >
> > No, Dolphin was quick, useable and responsive. The only show stopper
> > or me, and I've not found a workaround yet, is that the QT5 windows
> > and panels do not read, the irony of the accessibility panel being
> > inaccessible is not lost on me, but I'm tempted to keep it around to
> > see where it goes, and given the Steam Deck uses Plasma last I
> > checked, here's hoping for improvements that get ported there too
> >
> > On 6/23/22 11:53, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >> Yeah, I've not tried it in like half a year, but this has prompted me to
> >> begin as a Patron to linux-accessibility again. Just $19 per month,
> >> but I
> >> hope it helps enthusiasm and to keep up this really great work!
> >> Devin Prater
> >> r.d.t.prater at gmail.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 5:18 AM Linux for blind general discussion <
> >> blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> So given the news about KDE accessibility getting worked on, I figured
> >>> I'd give KDE a shot. I wasn't that impressed last time.
> >>>
> >>> However. It's improved a lot, I can do basic things, which is a big
> >>> step
> >>> up, and I get talking app launchers, and can do email, web browsing and
> >>> text editing which is a big, big plus.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That being said, I still cannot change system settings or default apps
> >>> like I can on, say, Mate but, and here's the thing I like about KDE
> >>> Plasma as of writing this...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It is fast, it, on my Arch box, so YMMV on other OSes, but I'm running
> >>> this on my Arch box, the thing I like about it is the keyboard commands
> >>> make sense.
> >>>
> >>> Now, if I can just work on adding a shortcut that doesn't require me to
> >>> go and fight with a window that won't read, that'd be good. Plasma is
> >>> pleasently surprising and worth checking in on.
> >>>
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