Thoughts on KDE Plasma as of right now

Thu Jun 23 16:07:42 UTC 2022

In no particular order...

1. Yes, a said in the other mails, none of the dialogs read, but I can 
add export QT_LINUX_ACCESSIBILITY_ALWAYS_ON=1 # for QT5 accessibility 
into both .xinitrc and /bashrc too

Yes I was trying to add a shortcut for opening a terminal with Meta+T 
for example. Is it already in one of the Meta 1-0 keys, if so I didn't 
find it, or is it only set to look for yakuake/Konsole? I can dig in the 
.xml files to check and see if so

PAM and unlocking after sleep/when doing startx does not accept my 
password and acts as a failed login, thus locking me out after 3 failed 
logins.

On 6/23/22 16:52, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Wonder if we could set that environment variable as KDE starts?
> Devin Prater
> r.d.t.prater at gmail.com
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> On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 10:34 AM Linux for blind general discussion <
> blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
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>> Howdy,
>>
>>> I mean, all I really need is the apps being fixed, things like
>>> konsole, the various windows and programs and it's definitely useable.
>>> Dolphin is surprisingly great, I went in expecting oh, it'll be a pain
>>> to use.
>> yes, most apps already got very basic support, but this needs to be
>> improved a lot. first lets fix up most the desktop related components.
>> Konsole should have basic accessibility support as well. but i think the
>> handling in orca to VTE is very special black magic. this might need to
>> be done for Konsole as well.
>> the support for konsole is tracked at this task:
>> https://phabricator.kde.org/T10099
>> last thing was QT was missing the Terminal accessibility role. this was
>> added then by frederik. so the work could here beeing continue as well.
>>
>>> The only show stopper or me, and I've not found a workaround yet, is
>>> that the QT5 windows and panels do not read
>> QT5 windows should be accessible by default. you might have to set an
>> environment variable:
>> set this to your ~/.bashrc file
>> export QT_LINUX_ACCESSIBILITY_ALWAYS_ON=1 # for QT5 accessibility
>>
>> by the way, in latest plasma 5.25 there is a new shortcut to focus all
>> available desktop panels Meta + Alt + p (it cycles between all available
>> desktop panels and the desktop itself). the desktop panel and tray area
>> is also now keyboard navigate able. But some accessibility labels are
>> missing or could  be improved. this is next on my list.
>>
>> just to share the latest links i send to orca list:
>> my blog post about current KDE accessibility team efforts:
>> https://www.patreon.com/posts/68079468
>>
>> Carls current proposal to have accessibility as 3 year goal (this is a
>> voting process):
>> https://phabricator.kde.org/T15611
>> my old proposal from 2019 to try to set accessibility as KDE goal (sadly
>> not voted):
>> https://phabricator.kde.org/T11074
>> lets hope accessibility is set as KDE goal for now. this would be great
>> and would give that a lot of love and attention.
>>
>> i will do a basic review of the current situation at weekend. for those
>> are curious about KDEs accessibility state.
>>
>> cheers chrys
>> Am 23.06.22 um 13:05 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>> I mean, all I really need is the apps being fixed, things like
>>> konsole, the various windows and programs and it's definitely useable.
>>> Dolphin is surprisingly great, I went in expecting oh, it'll be a pain
>>> to use.
>>>
>>> No, Dolphin was quick, useable and responsive. The only show stopper
>>> or me, and I've not found a workaround yet, is that the QT5 windows
>>> and panels do not read, the irony of the accessibility panel being
>>> inaccessible is not lost on me, but I'm tempted to keep it around to
>>> see where it goes, and given the Steam Deck uses Plasma last I
>>> checked, here's hoping for improvements that get ported there too
>>>
>>> On 6/23/22 11:53, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> Yeah, I've not tried it in like half a year, but this has prompted me to
>>>> begin as a Patron to linux-accessibility again. Just $19 per month,
>>>> but I
>>>> hope it helps enthusiasm and to keep up this really great work!
>>>> Devin Prater
>>>> r.d.t.prater at gmail.com
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 5:18 AM Linux for blind general discussion <
>>>> blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So given the news about KDE accessibility getting worked on, I figured
>>>>> I'd give KDE a shot. I wasn't that impressed last time.
>>>>>
>>>>> However. It's improved a lot, I can do basic things, which is a big
>>>>> step
>>>>> up, and I get talking app launchers, and can do email, web browsing and
>>>>> text editing which is a big, big plus.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That being said, I still cannot change system settings or default apps
>>>>> like I can on, say, Mate but, and here's the thing I like about KDE
>>>>> Plasma as of writing this...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is fast, it, on my Arch box, so YMMV on other OSes, but I'm running
>>>>> this on my Arch box, the thing I like about it is the keyboard commands
>>>>> make sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, if I can just work on adding a shortcut that doesn't require me to
>>>>> go and fight with a window that won't read, that'd be good. Plasma is
>>>>> pleasently surprising and worth checking in on.
>>>>>
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