[Container-tools] Naming the "Container App Spec and Libraries" project

Mark Lamourine markllama at redhat.com
Wed Apr 15 13:20:38 UTC 2015



----- Original Message -----
> 
> 
> On 04/15/2015 08:25 AM, Mark Lamourine wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>
> >> To atomic or not to atomic is
> >>
> >> pro: associates it with red hat project, shows our leadership
> >>
> >> con: associates it with red hat project, getting other to join
> > con: it muddies what "atomic" is.  When I'm asked at conferences what
> > atomic is, answering "well there's atomic host, which is this minimal OS
> > thing, then there's
> > atomic the CLI, which is a tool to manage updates on atomic hosts but can
> > really be run anywhere to run privileged containers because that part's
> > just managing docker, oh and then there's this meta orchestration thing
> > which can sit on top of any kubernetes or heat stack, but is called
> > atomic... well... because that's what we call any container related
> > stuff".
> >
> > About half way through my admin friends have walked away smelling marketing
> > and my non admin friends are going "wait, wait, what do these have to do
> > with each other?"
> You are confused about what 'atomic' is. The Atomic App is a core pillar
> of the Atomic Architecture. It's not just the host.

*I'm* not confused, but the people who have to hear that will be.

> 
> > - Mark
> >>
> >> I like the suggestion of Tomas' suggestions.
> >>
> >> Carl.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 04/14/2015 01:21 PM, Daniel Riek wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Atomic App
> >>
> >> - Consistent with Project Atomic
> >> - Consistent with the atomic-run tool - which is the first half of this
> >> concept.
> >> - Makes sense because it implements the concept of immutable
> >> infrastucture and aggregate packaging that the 'Atomic' naming scheme is
> >> trying to convey
> >> - Gives some urgently needed content to Project Atomic
> >>
> >> And not to forget: it's the original name I had in mind, when I started
> >> the project...
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Daniel
> >>
> >> On 04/14/2015 01:02 PM, John Mark Walker wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hey gang,
> >>
> >> Because there's an obvious namespace collision between CoreOS' appc
> >> efforts
> >> and our own container app spec, I've been wondering what to name our
> >> thing.
> >> Here are some potential names. Vote on 1 or submit your own:
> >>
> >> - supernetes - I originally liked this, but then realized it doesn't send
> >> a
> >> realistic message. Connotes some type of orchestration that sits "above"
> >> k8s. I don't think that's what we're creating. I include it here for
> >> completeness.
> >>
> >> - intercon - short for "inter-container" - because what we're doing is
> >> about
> >> defining multi-container applications that can utilize a number of
> >> "providers" and host environments.
> >>
> >> All the other names I'm thinking about are variations on this theme:
> >>
> >> - interpod - same as above, except adopting the term "pod" from the k8s
> >> universe
> >>
> >> - hyperpod, hypercon - same theme as above, just using a different term of
> >> art to connote "more than one pod"
> >>
> >>
> >> I kind of like intercon, although I could see arguments for something
> >> else.
> >>
> >> Once we have a name, we need to figure out where it lives. I don't think
> >> it
> >> belongs under the Project Atomic org on github.
> >>
> >> github.com/intercon is available :)
> >>
> >> -JM
> >>
> >>
> >> -JM
> >>
> >>
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