[Container-tools] Creating a download location for ADB Vagrant boxes

[Lalatendu Mohanty]

On 10/08/2015 04:49 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
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> On 08/10/15 11:46, Lalatendu Mohanty wrote:
>> On 10/08/2015 04:10 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: On 08/10/15 11:32,
>> Lalatendu Mohanty wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> As part of ADB project we are planning to do time based
>>>>> release (i.e. every month) +  intermediate releases for
>>>>> blocker bugs and security issues etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are two ways to deliver the vagrant box to users.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Making the box available somewhere, so that users can
>>>>> download it through http or ftp. 2. Uploading or link the
>>>>> Vagrant box from atlas.hashicorp.com
>>>>>
>>>>> So for both the two delivery mechanism we need a http/ftp
>>>>> download location to put the boxes, so that community can
>>>>> consume it. Currently the box is CentOS based, so we are
>>>>> discussing to get the ADB Vagrant included in to CentOS SIG
>>>>> (most be Atomic SIG or something appropriate) [1] .
>>>>>
>>>>> However it is moving slowly then expected, so I think it
>>>>> would be better to get a http/ftp location where we can host
>>>>> boxes for community to consume. It will help us in below
>>>>> things.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. This location can be used to host things from container
>>>>> tools team. 2. We can host the Vagrant box till it is
>>>>> accepted in respective communities.
>>>>>
>>>>> Comments/suggestions are welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2015-September/0137
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>> how do yo define the target audience for this content ? that would
>> then define what release cadence you want to setup, and where you
>> want to host the content and how you want to announce ( and where
>> to )
>>> The target audience of ADB box would be users who want to try
>>> out atomicapp, Nulecule, OpenShift, docker (on Windows and OS
>>> X).
> so, 'try out' only ?
Nope. I should have used better words. Its for application developers 
who will benefit using the Vagrant box (Refer the Project Readme)

> the key being that if you want to provide the people on this mailing
> list with a very fast release cycle, perhaps nightly, so they can
> validate their own work rapidly V/s providing the wider contributor
> base V/s provider the wider userbase ( ! contributor ).
>
> For the second two of those situations is where it makes sense to use
> centos.org resources, and then do quickstart guides, announces,
> mechanics from the CentOS side of things.
>
> I suspect the first of those groups is likely happy with a yum update
> in an established box, nightly ?

The kickstart file for the Vagrant box is changing . So its just not yum 
update. Also we might want to change the default Vagrantfile which comes 
with the Image (may be an enhancement to image-factory or a separate 
script).

Using CentOS resources fine with me. Actually that would be welcome. 
However I guess we have to wait little more to get all required 
resources [1]

[1] 
https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2015-October/013917.html

Thanks,
Lala
>>> Release cadence would be building the box -> testing the box ->
>>> releasing the box -> sending announcements. I am open to
>>> suggestion too.
> a box is a point in time snapshot payload, consider the payload as a
> constant stream of rpms and yum 'content pools'. the box to me, is a
> way to get people started, once they are on it - you need a good
> communication channel and content in that channel to keep them using
> the box, updating to always-usable / tested content.
>
> again, look at the audience this is being done for and work back from
> there.
>
> happy to help in whatever way we can,
>
> - -- 
> Karanbir Singh, The CentOS Project, London, UK
> RH Ext. 8274455 | DID: 0044 207 009 4455
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