[Container-tools] Actively logging #nulecule channel?

Stephen Gallagher sgallagh at redhat.com
Thu Feb 11 17:07:03 UTC 2016


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On 02/11/2016 06:58 AM, Suraj Deshmukh wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I can see that we have #nulecule channel not being actively logged, except
>  during the IRC meeting. I also see zodbot active on this channel. Why this
>  channel is notactively logged 24x7 like other open-source project 
> channels? AFAIK zodbot has that ability to log everything 24x7?
> 
> Thanks and Regards.
> 

- From http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml

"If you're considering publishing channel logs, think it through. The freenode
network is an interactive environment. Even on public channels, most users
don't weigh their comments with the idea that they'll be enshrined in
perpetuity. For that reason, few participants publish logs.

If you're publishing logs on an ongoing basis, your channel topic should
reflect that fact. Be sure to provide a way for users to make comments without
logging, and get permission from the channel owners before you start. If
you're thinking of "anonymizing" your logs (removing information that
identifies the specific users), be aware that it's difficult to do it
well—replies and general context often provide identifying information which
is hard to filter.

If you just want to publish a single conversation, be careful to get
permission from each participant. Provide as much context as you can. Avoid
the temptation to publish or distribute logs without permission in order to
portray someone in a bad light. The reputation you save will most likely be
your own."


Fedora does not log all channels; we only log meetings and this is clearly
indicated to all participants. In general, it's really rather tacky to publish
someone's newbie questions or misunderstandings.

I'll also note that dragnet logging like this may fall afoul of some
countries' laws: such as the right-to-be-forgotten laws. It puts additional
maintenance effort on the infrastructure people if they have to trawl the logs
and scrub them on a legal request. At least with meeting minutes, every entry
makes it clear that the participants were informed that they were being logged.
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