[Container-tools] Why do we have "rhel-docker-eclipse"?

Pete Muir pmuir at redhat.com
Mon Feb 15 09:38:15 UTC 2016


+1 have a default Vagrantfile, and then some quickstarts that include
others as *examples* (i.e. part of docs). This clearly communicates
intent and also support liability.

On 15 February 2016 at 07:54, Max Rydahl Andersen <manderse at redhat.com> wrote:
> On 12 Feb 2016, at 21:59, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote:
>
> On Feb 6, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Burr Sutter bsutter at redhat.com wrote:
>
> One Vagrantfile would best from a user experience perspective.
>
> The RHEL team really want an option that “turns off Openshift” and “turns on
> pure Kubernetes” Now, this k8s user is definitely more “hardcore” and he/she
> would be comfortable with some work on the linux command line to perform
> this trick.
>
> Can we have one Vagrantfile that defaults to a “docker + oc” experience and
> offers a command line switch to go to pure k8s?
>
> I believe it is better to have a Vagrantfile up front and center starts the
> preferred environment, in this case, OpenShift and additional Vagrantfiles
> that do other things available or easily created from documentation.
>
> A user who doesn't want what the project considers the default is going to
> get annoyed pretty quickly at having to always boot what they don't want
> just so that they can turn on what they want and sit through another
> provisioning cycle.
>
> There is no single "correct" Vagrantfile in my opinion. Our simplification
> efforts will pay big dividends, but we shouldn't try to solve it all in one
> "mother" file.
>
> It might be there is not a single vagrant file that can handle everything
> and the kitchensink, but
> there is one vagrant file that is more right than the others - and that is
> the default experience
> we want majority of our users to have on first download/usage of the CDK.
>
> That is what Burr is referring to above around one Vagrantfile - having a
> simple and consistent
> out of box experience.
>
> I thought this was what we agreed on last week ?
>
> A) Delete the rhel-docker-eclipse (since it is badly named - it has nothing
> to do with eclipse)
> B) One Vagrantfile to be in the zip distro for users to use
> C) Other vagrant files in docs or in a "misc" folder.
>
> /max
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>
>
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