[edk2-devel] [edk2-announce] [RFC] EMEA Meeting Days / Times Change

Laszlo Ersek lersek at redhat.com
Mon May 20 15:03:20 UTC 2019


On 05/20/19 16:42, stephano wrote:
> I actually feel like we may need more lists rather than continuing to
> keep devel as our main discussion forum. I appreciate your feedback and
> hadn't thought of that solution, however here are my thoughts:
> 
> On 5/15/2019 2:29 AM, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>> - keep the announce list locked down (very small number of posters
>> allowed)
> 
> I want to encourage people from the community to give announcements if
> they feel it is pertinent to everyone. We have a rather mature,
> experienced group of engineers who I think can handle that
> responsibility. If I see this privilege being abused I can restrict
> posting to "approved posts", but I hope that isn't necessary. (new user
> moderation will catch "bots" and the like)

OK.

> 
>> - when making an announcement, always CC the devel list as well,
>> - when consensus is reached, send *one* update (as the original poster)
>> in response to the original email, again to both lists.
>>
>> As a result:
>>
>> - the announce list will only contain the announcements, and (if
>> necessary) a consensus update. This will offer a very clean and
>> low-traffic overview to people browsing the announce list, and to those
>> that are subscribed only to the announce list
>>
>> - the community can engage in normal discussion hitting "Reply All" at
>> all times. The discussion will occur on the devel list, and will be kept
>> out of the announce list. If you (the OP) partake in the discussion,
>> you'll have to take care to remove the announce list from the address
>> list of your emails, as the address list would not filter you out (and
>> you wouldn't want to clutter the announce list with in-flight
>> discussion).
>>
> 
> I don't disagree that this would provide a way to comment on
> announcements while keeping the announcement list very clean. However, I
> feel like our devel list has become quite "messy" as a result of having
> only 1 list for many years, and I'd like to remedy that. I feel like
> your suggestion will only make the "mess" worse.
> 
> For those of us using a MUA to filter our list, devel works very well
> currently. However, if community members want to get better use out of
> Groups.io, we need to ensure our conversations are formatted well for a
> web interface. This would mean both refining our lists to a specific
> purpose as well as taking advantage of hashtags.
> 
> We discussed hashtags in our last community meeting:
> 
> https://www.tianocore.org/minutes/Community-2019-05.html
> 
> Your suggestion would indeed keep the "announce" list clean, however I
> fear that it would complicate the web flow quite a bit. Hopefully that
> came across as constructive. It's early and the coffee is still setting
> in :).

As long as these tags are read/write from a traditional (and functional)
MUA + git-send-email setup, and don't force me to use the WebUI in any
way, I'm fine.

Thanks
Laszlo

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