[Ambassadors] Active/Inactive Ambassadors

Tony Guntharp fusion94 at gmail.com
Tue Apr 3 18:00:27 UTC 2007


I've not followed this thread from the start at all but how do you  
propose to define whether or not someone has been active as an  
ambassador or not? I mean I've not attended an IRC meeting in some  
time but on the other hand in the past 6 months I've burned and  
distributed somewhere in the neighborhood of 45 Fedora DVDs, I've  
also moved over 5 consulting clients over from Debian/CentOS over to  
Fedora Core.

Does this make me inactive or not even if I cannot attend the IRC  
meetings? The point I'm trying to make is that there are probably  
quite a few Ambassadors that could be marked as inactive based on  
that while behind the scenes they are making more of an active  
contribution to Fedora than some of our more vocal Ambassadors.

thoughts?

-t

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Tony Guntharp
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On Apr 3, 2007, at 10:48 AM, Francesco Ugolini wrote:

> A LITTLE ADVICE (not referred to this post): i know I've written a lot
> of posts, but please, first to reply to a mail, please read all  
> messages
> written by me (or the first 5 with this topic), because it's  
> unpractical
> to write the same things a lot of time.
>
> Yes, in fact, the kick-off is the second part of my proposal, the  
> first
> one is to mark ambassadors, who don't work, inactive.
>
> After this, i don't know if my English is so worst as it seems to  
> be, i
> not say that people who don't follow irc meetings would be marked  
> inactive.
>
> For the title question i think it's the best way to prize working
> ambassadors (but we can discuss lately, first of all focus your
> attention on inactive/active proposal).
>
> Regards
>
> Francesco Ugolini
>
> Jim Nanney ha scritto:
>> Francesco Ugolini wrote:
>>> After the period of inactivity he will became emeritus  
>>> ambassador. That
>>> would be a possible solution.
>>
>>> Francesco Ugolini
>>
>>> susmit shannigrahi ha scritto:
>>>>> We can support ambassador giving them materials to promote  
>>>>> fedora but we
>>>>> can't absolutely became a gadget shop, people will join th  
>>>>> project to
>>>>> receive the gadgets and probably after this they will do nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have just a Recognition Award that prize ambassadors who  
>>>>> work hard.
>>>> Fine..then why another title *honored ambassador* ?
>>>> Think of a student who works for fedora ,eventually become an  
>>>> honored
>>>> ambassador for great job, then join an IT company..When he can  
>>>> afford
>>>> no more time for fedora...
>>>> become completely inactive..what do you propose in this situation ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> Why not do like the Free Media Contributors section.  List Active
>> Ambassadors and Inactive Ambassadors.  In this way, no one is "kicked
>> out" for inactivity.
>>
>> It is reasonable to assume that everyone who has joined the  
>> Ambassadors
>> program has done so because of wanting to contribute.  So it is also
>> reasonable to assume they have in whatever way the particular person
>> could whether or not it was actually reported back.
>>
>> Moving the names to an Inactive list, but not removing the names is
>> motivation enough to want to stay active.  If not, it still does not
>> give the previous (yet now inactive) contributor a "kicked out"  
>> feeling.
>>
>> New titles should be another large discussion.  What would merit
>> receiving the new title?  Who judges what is worthy of that  
>> title?  To
>> me this can lead to animosity as well.
>>
>> I propose no new titles, and also not removing Ambassadors.  The
>> community is stronger by more communication, but new titles, and  
>> kicking
>> out inactive Ambassadors seems to be the wrong way to achieve this.
>>
>> As for me, I should be on the inactive list, because I have not  
>> attended
>> the IRC meetings, posted on this list, or reported on what I have  
>> done
>> to promote Fedora.
>>
>> I think the Steering Committee should weigh heavily the downfall that
>> could occur by removing Inactive (most likely previously active)
>> Ambassadors, and the animosity that can be created by segregating
>> Ambassadors in levels requiring differing titles.
>>
>> --Jim
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